Just another reason for you to talk shit

To GingerLyn Harte: You're welcome luv

Would it have still been rape in your eyes if he would had given you the donation You asked for at a social after the so called event?.

Some of y'all are real pieces of shit. If a girl can't consent because she's passed out, it's fucking rape. If you pay a provider, she tells you to stop, and you don't, it's still fucking rape. There is no fucking gray area because she's a provider or drunk or you're drunk. Scumbags that think like this need to be eradicated.

Hey I said it was rape, but responsibility for ones safety lies with yourself.
Nobody but yourself can make you incapacitated.
Unless it's a poisoning, which is why a provider should not drink with clients.
Common Sense

I have just as little sympathy for a drunk guy that gets his face smashed in for being an obnoxious drunk!
These are things in ones power to control.

So Mata, I'm so glad that you and your friend Playingnthedark get to talk so much. I wonder why he hasnt brought himself or his other friends besides you to this thread to continue to talk shit to me and about me...?

Anywho, about a week later after the incident, I seen PID and avoided him all night out of fear and confusion of what to do or say. I still hadn't been able to talk about this or get it off my chest at the time. The more I seen him go about life and that night as if everything was normal, and the more I thought about the stories I heard before of these incidents happening, the more angry I got and was able to pull aside this guy to let out what I had been holding in.

I don't know what I thought I was achieving by talking to him honestly. I feel stupid for thinking maybe I would get a sorry or see shame. Instead all I got was an attitude and "so what" unapologetic demeanor, and a "what do you want". Honestly, at that moment I didn't know. I just wanted it all to go away. I wish it never happened.

I accept responsibility for my actions of stupidly drinking and trusting a hobbyist and thinking I was being nice by letting him sleep off the alcohol. I wish I never met him period. Of course I didn't want the cops involved, so what would make me feel better....?

Obviously I wasn't getting an apology, or any remorse from him. Nor would I see him get sent off for violating my body. Honestly there are very few things I would actually be able to witness as a result of all of this. I mean besides jail or remorse what could I want or ask for from my perp? He took something from me that I can't get back, change, or out my mind for that matter. So yes, stupidly I asked for him to pay the price for what he had taken. And to answer your question, NO, it wouldn't have changed the fact of what he did to me. But it would be better than him not paying for his actions at all since he feels no remorse.

By law, even if he got caught stealing, or went down for rape, they make that person pay victim restitution fees. Those fees don't take back the crime that person committed, but apparently the U.S. doesn't practice castrating rapists,so this is the alternative I guess.

So to all of the people who support rape and what happened to me and are friends who support the actions of Playingnthedark and feel the need to try and discredit me on this thread, you seem to be only talking about the before and after, as if the fact that me drinking is asking for rape, and makes it my fault. Or acting like anything I said or did afterwards changes anything.

You guys are basically saying to keep my mouth shut if this happens by one of your beloved friends of this lovely here community, or the result will be continued ridicule on this board. Well guess what, I'm not going to be quiet about it, because no-one else has. Fuck that.

Nonetheless, it still doesn't change what he knowingly did to me as I was passed out that night. Nice to see men coming together to ridicule me, oh the unity. I almost was to the point where I felt that since I was attacked and almost fought over this, I shouldn't bring it up anymore and just try to forget it, just like y'all wanted, right? Well when I tried that, I find more and more that this guy and his friends still want to keep the fire going by rehashing the events and talking shit about me.

Funny it's being made into a blame game. Like "if you weren't wearing that short skirt you wouldn't be here on the stand talking about being raped" scenario. I'm sure since the cat is out, I will be greatly backslashed and made to seem crazy now. But you know what, I've already heard stories of these things happening to providers before, but sadly never read about them on the site. Either they were scared of backlash and being attacked or their business ruined or maybe they just wanted to forget about it. Or maybe some female threatened them, like DLG did me, because that guy is such a nice guy he would never do that.....who knows, but I understand why no-one chose to speak out.

But I have had enough with that slick shit talking when all I was trying to do was move on and forget everything. So call me what you want. But I feel that since you are sticking up for him and trying to deflect my words by concentrating on the before and after events, you are in the know and aware of the fact that you never denied the truth of the actual event I am speaking of, which is him taking advantage of me.

Funny that some of the same people ridiculing me, do in fact support going places where providers drink, and they provide the drinks....hmm makes you wonder if they too are in fact searching for the next victim, or as they put it so kindly the next stupid chick to get drunk around you guys. Funny when I 1st went out, all I heard was "Don't worry, we care about you women. If you drink you have a safe place to crash. We don't want you on the road in that condition". Wow the irony smh.....

To a naive person, this might be seen as genuine concern. Now it just seems like the ol "hey, you need a ride kid. You don't need to be walking this late" setup. Anywho, like I said. This is to just inform Mr. Playingnthedark and all his friends that I'm sick of the shit talking. This is also to put the whole story out there. And to warn and hopefully be a learning experience to all of you ladies.

Also, if any lady needs someone to talk to, I'm here. I promise I won't take what you said and tell everyone, then publicly attack you or call you a liar either. I also hope that you can learn from my mistakes, as I hope that no-one else should have to go through all of this.

(And FYI for those wondering, I did get an emergency check up after the incident, besides the 2 a month I already get.)

Now I'm sure those wanting to attack me have been waiting for this here reply. This is now where I'll be exiting this thread. You guys can have fun attacking me here, the ML room and everywhere else- xo

Funny that some of the same people ridiculing me, do in fact support going places where providers drink, and they provide the drinks....hmm makes you wonder if they too are in fact searching for the next victim, or as they put it so kindly the next stupid chick to get drunk around you guys. Funny when I 1st went out, all I heard was "Don't worry, we care about you women. If you drink you have a safe place to crash. We don't want you on the road in that condition". Wow the irony smh.....

To a naive person, this might be seen as genuine concern. Now it just seems like the ol "hey, you need a ride kid. You don't need to be walking this late" setup. Anywho, like I said. This is to just inform Mr. Playingnthedark and all his friends that I'm sick of the shit talking. This is also to put the whole story out there. And to warn and hopefully be a learning experience to all of you ladies.
Originally Posted by La Vida

"Come to the social its a safe environment"
Fuck every man who ever said that to me or any lady. This is why i dont go.

The socials and the partys-providers get drugged, talked into prices that they regreat the next day, and become a topic of convo between disgusting men and complicit women.

Sad to see what this board ment to keep everyone safe has become.

P.s. i didnt want to use the word 'complicit' but apparently there is no synonym

this story needs to be know- it should be moved to alerts

You can try and shift the blame all you want.
But you do bear some responsibility, you weren't raped in a parking lot dragged into some bushes.
You made a conscious decision to pick up a drink, and continue drinking til you were so wasted you couldn't stay conscious any longer.
Yes you were raped!
But had you had self control and not drank yourself into oblivion... would you have been then?
No


And I do not go to the socials, so I'm not one that would use alcohol to make a woman act stupidly.
And I have drank to stupidity, led police on a 150 mile per hour motorcycle chase.
Who did that stupid shit? ME

You can try and shift the blame all you want.
But you do bear some responsibility, you weren't raped in a parking lot dragged into some bushes.
You made a conscious decision to pick up a drink, and continue drinking til you were so wasted you couldn't stay conscious any longer.
Yes you were raped!
But had you had self control and not drank yourself into oblivion... would you have been then?
No Originally Posted by rockerrick

Heres the black and white of it dear.
Both parties are at fault (which she has already claimed responsibility for her part)
What she did was ill-advised.
What he did is a crime.
Point blank. End of story.

OMG, La Veda - I am so sorry sweetie that happened to you.
Thank you for posting this - You are a brave lady and I applaud you. You giving this information has saved another provider from having this happen to her too and that is worth alot. xoxo

All this somehow reminds me of the documentary:

The Hunting Ground

All this somehow reminds me of the documentary:

The Hunting Ground Originally Posted by fun2come

Hmmm wonder why

Would it have still been rape in your eyes if he would had given you the donation You asked for at a social after the so called event?. Originally Posted by Mata Leon

This guys logic. . . "It wasn't rape, honestly officer, she may have said no but I didn't hear it". . . Same type of shit man as silence is not a yes. Who cares what they had or had not agreed to at the beginning of the meeting, there is no consent when the other party is incapacitated.

LV, I don't know the details of the arrangement before you two met, PM me if you would like an honest opinion from a licensed attorney as to a possible course of action (licensed in MO, not TX).

Guys, one day a provider will have the guts to press charges on someone in this situation. If getting your fix is worth time in jail, a sexual predator title attached to your name and your rectum stretched out to the size of a large sausage, then take your risk. Think about it before you condone these types of actions.

You can try and shift the blame all you want.
But you do bear some responsibility, you weren't raped in a parking lot dragged into some bushes.
You made a conscious decision to pick up a drink, and continue drinking til you were so wasted you couldn't stay conscious any longer.
Yes you were raped!
But had you had self control and not drank yourself into oblivion... would you have been then?
No


And I do not go to the socials, so I'm not one that would use alcohol to make a woman act stupidly.
And I have drank to stupidity, led police on a 150 mile per hour motorcycle chase.
Who did that stupid shit? ME Originally Posted by rockerrick

So, by your logic, inmates who were convicted of a crime with intent can never fully blame the other inmate for rape? Think about it, the criminal makes a conscious decision which leads him to jail and, but for that ill-fated decision to commit that crime, he wouldn't have been raped by Bubba. Stupid, stupid post.

LV, I don't know the details of the arrangement before you two met, PM me if you would like an honest opinion from a licensed attorney as to a possible course of action (licensed in MO, not TX). Originally Posted by gt27

Did you follow SL back to ATX from KCMO?

Might want to take this discussion over to Legal Forum where discussion can take place on legal differences between Texas and Missouri law: https://www.eccie.net/forumdisplay.php?f=7

I would be interested in hearing what ShysterJon has to say on this topic.