Age is Such a Sad Loss of Good Providers

IME, especially living in Vegas which has a lot of mature gals working in it, it's like mail order. If you have a pussy, there's someone out there willing to pay you to play with it. One lady of my acquaintance retired for good two years ago-at 75. She was pretty much booked every day. Go figure.

And there's a lot of guys who don't know about ECCIE and quite a few who wouldn't care.

Hard to feel sorry for someone not willing to lower their standard of living when their prime has passed or circumstances change. Many people come to the US and we're doctors or engineers in their home country yet humble themselves to start a new life for their families here.

Also hard to feel sorry for someone like Carla, who comes on here regularly to cry of how bad her life is but doesn't do anything to change it. In the real world we have to keep our skills relevant to keep our jobs...she's sat around for years trying to make an easy buck and it's caught up to her. As others have said, get a real job or a social service to get you on a better track in life, sympathy is in short supply around here.

Bits of advice- take em or leave em...

If you can't manage your money, find someone who can.

Budget. Budget. BUDGET. Pencil and paper is your best friend.

Drop the pride at the door. Get that mickey dee's job if it fucking pays for an apartment.

As you age, RW or Hooker life, you develop a LOT of skills. Figure out how to communicate them into "real world" skills and throw that shit on a resume.

There are a TON of programs out there to help women transition from "bad situations" like homelessness, drug addiction, abusive spouse, high school drop out etc. They can help you get on the right path with education and employment. Some will even help with temporary funds or housing. You use the internet for hooking, use it for research too when your twat isn't on duty.

If you can't supports yourself in DFW, then you need to ask some of the veteran ladies what the hell you are doing wrong. There is PLENTY of money to go around. Perhaps some business advice is what you need. Originally Posted by ~Ze~

What Ze said.

I'd add that I'm 66 and my preference is the the 35-and-up age group.

(Cue up the Virginia Slims commercial, "You've Come a Long Way, Baby!")

Maybe become the best damn L2 FBSM provider on here?

Bits of advice- take em or leave em...

If you can't manage your money, find someone who can.

Budget. Budget. BUDGET. Pencil and paper is your best friend.

Drop the pride at the door. Get that mickey dee's job if it fucking pays for an apartment.

If you can't supports yourself in DFW, then you need to ask some of the veteran ladies what the hell you are doing wrong. There is PLENTY of money to go around. Perhaps some business advice is what you need. Originally Posted by ~Ze~

If your pics are accurate, you definitely have a client base in DFW!

Don't knock the Walmart greeter job. It will give you a needed W2 plus benefits. You may not make much from it but you need it.

If you like what you're doing, don't stop!

Sucking 3 or 4 dicks a week will make you more than a minimum wage position. You still need that W2, though.

However, market yourself better! People can help you there too.

like ze said budget or get someone who can help you.

Answer texts and PMs. Lots of us are not going to call first. Again answer PMs and texts. If there is a reason why you actually can't answer pm or texts. Get that fixed.

Your sexy and very fuckable so keep your head up!

grean - you just bumped up on my favorites list. Good advice !......
However - - - - (I always have a BUT(T))

Don't knock the Walmart greeter job. It will give you a needed W2 plus benefits. You may not make much from it but you need it. Originally Posted by grean

Not necessarily true - you can obtain an LLC ... or even just a DBA - and still file taxes every year without the IRS on your ass (but(t) I might consider a session or two if they lowered my taxes)...ha!
I have both - and they are ... well...ya know ...bla bla bla Enterprises. Can't reveal that here and now. Also good for taking credit cards!

If you like what you're doing, don't stop! Originally Posted by grean

You betcha!

Sucking 3 or 4 dicks a week will make you more than a minimum wage position. You still need that W2, though. Originally Posted by grean

Again - W2, not really that big of a deal.
Altho...grean ...perhaps you could have been more eloquent in your description - like - "visiting with three or four clients a week" ... will beat minimum wage.

...like ze said budget or get someone who can help you. Originally Posted by grean

VERY True - the more you treat this crazy biz as a REAL business then the more you can manage the outcome.
I found my CPA on this site - in the Business Forum. It is a good place to start if you want to bargain and exchange services.
He is now a good friend and keeps me kosher with the Big Government Brother.

Answer texts and PMs. Originally Posted by grean

Absolutely - I try to answer every one that comes my way.
Ooops- there might be backlash on that one. But I really try! And also be sincere in your response ... unless the guy seems super creepy in his request.
For those - just say... sorry but I do not think we would hit it off, but thanks for your message! ... or something that gets the point across.

Your sexy and very fuckable so keep your head up! Originally Posted by grean

YAY !+1

Torre, minimum wage in Texas is 7.25. After taxes, a person who worked a 40 hour week IF lucky enough to have a full time minimum wage job, will take home about $200. Seeing a client a day with weekends off will BLOW away min wage. All pun intended.

If girls can't meet 1 a day.. *sigh*

Let's face it. Carla is flighty. Taking a look through her last few months of thread started... she's been in a BUNCH of new locations. From upscale to homeless in how fast? Something else is going on, and I refuse to blame it on age.

Absolutely agree on the minimum wage thing. It doesn't compare to what we make and the time spent doing it.... and the enjoyment at that ;-)

It's unfortunate the situation she has created for herself. Maybe drugs or booze drove her over the edge. Who knows.

Looks like she has lived through some crazy shit. That probably had an impact on her as well.

Just sending positive thoughts her way and with the Universe helping her out .... hope she gets better.

Hugs,
Torre

Well, back in the day I used to always ask providers, especially the BP chicks, what's your plan to stop doing this? Not that I was trying to rush them out of the hobby I just wanted to see if they had thought that far out. I mean, each provider has to think that they want to do something else. If not, the market will dictate that for you with age.

Carla might be old, but there is more help out there for women than there is for men. She may not want to do it, but get with an agency that provides housing for women. Go back to school, learn a trade. Reinvent yourself! It's never too late

Torre, minimum wage in Texas is 7.25. After taxes, a person who worked a 40 hour week IF lucky enough to have a full time minimum wage job, will take home about $200. Seeing a client a day with weekends off will BLOW away min wage. All pun intended.

If girls can't meet 1 a day.. *sigh*

Let's face it. Carla is flighty. Taking a look through her last few months of thread started... she's been in a BUNCH of new locations. From upscale to homeless in how fast? Something else is going on, and I refuse to blame it on age. Originally Posted by ~Ze~

Nothing to do with age. There is a niche for mature providers in DFW to be sure. There also isnt a incredibly large number of mature providers to fill that niche.

This is one of those times where management would actually be helpful. Hopefully she doesn't get one thathat takes advantage , if those exist....

Torre is correct about the LLC and DBA. Can do it on legalzoom.com for like $99. It's a smart way to go.

She's here venting, we don't know her situation. Other factor might come to play

I am sure there are some mature providers who do well (they chimed in).

However, we can't denied it, younger and hotter girls will get more attention, just look at the WW. Experience matters, but more guys (not all) will flock to young hotties, than more mature ladies.

There are exception to the rules, and we must also compare Apples to Apples. There are plenty of unreliable young hotties who won't last long either.

We all need to make plans for the future, and shouldn't rely on others, government, society to bail us out.

However, we can't denied it, younger and hotter girls will get more attention, just look at the WW. Experience matters, but more guys (not all) will flock to young hotties, than more mature ladies. Originally Posted by london2012

Most women that do this understand this is a young woman's gig, The hotter, younger and in shape women will make a killing $ BUT!

There's a market for everything as many men in here will poke anything with crack between their legs, I've been guilty of this myself lol The OP can still be successful and make a descent living.

I agree...Carla you have been around a long time...I remember you from my Killeen days on the board....there is s place for you here!

Marketing yourself appropriately helps tremendously because then you can reach the right clientele...

Participating in hobby discussions in a positive way also helps put yourself out there...allows your potential clients to get a feel for the kinda person you really are...

Treating this like a real business does help with predicting financial outcomes...

Carla, if you feel alone trust me I understand..I been there many times in this biz.... I think you should take the advice of our fellow eccie members here...

You don't have to stop providing....but if you're worried about a roof over your head then seeking assistance might be really good for you...

Keep your head up..
Hope things improve

Analeese