bowlegged?
after 15-20 guys a week for just a few weeks as compared to some ladies around here that have been doing guys for 10-15 years?
Are they bowlegged? Are their vaginas stretched out of shape?
How old are you? How many rides have you taken? Are you "bowlegged"?
I can't say I've ever seen a bowlegged provider myself.....
Just seems a bit rude to me...... Originally Posted by Whispers
bowlegged?
after 15-20 guys a week for just a few weeks as compared to some ladies around here that have been doing guys for 10-15 years?
Are they bowlegged? Are their vaginas stretched out of shape?
How old are you? How many rides have you taken? Are you "bowlegged"?
I can't say I've ever seen a bowlegged provider myself.....
Just seems a bit rude to me...... Originally Posted by Whispers
Some of us have higher libidos & energy levels than others. I can run off sexual energy for HOURS. I've stayed up all night masturbating on cam w/ guys 15 yrs ago w/out even drinking coffee! LOL So, it's a ymwv from girl to girl. That's just the way this biz is sometimes. Originally Posted by Kit-4-Katas it is guy to guy.
New meat: more appts when you're new regardless of quality or priceI'm 21. I have heard that. I have read comments from men saying they'd never pay "$300 for a 40 year old" and that's just effed up. I know a lot of super HOT 40 year olds. It shouldn't be about age but performance but hey they're the customer it's their choice.
Young: more market for that w/ the latest crop of posting/vocal hobbyists
Originally Posted by Kit-4-Kat
]Non-GFE: seems more in line w/ the latest crop of hobbyists, too. Originally Posted by Kit-4-KatI think we'll agree to disagree here. It's depends on the girl. If she presents herself as GFE, she will get BFE type clients. 1.) If she presents herself as someone a man can spend more than one hour with then that is what she'll get.(noone wants to 3hrs with an idiot.) 2.) It also depends on location, when I went to Greenville, SC, I couldn't get business without adding more time to my one hour rate. $300 an hour was too much for those guys there. I added more time to my hourly rate and was booked solid. I think if GFE girls lowered their rates or added more time to their one hourly rates, those non-GFE guys would come out of the woodworks wanting a date with us. When I went to Boston, MA, I had to double my rate, the men there have no issues with money. I was booked solid at $600hr and I came home with some pretty sweet gifts. 3.) Looks. At the end of the day this business is all about looks and body type. I have heard from Austin hobbyists that there are girls charging $300 an hour that should be charging $180 an hour. A provider should be honest with herself and price herself accordingly. If you're a hottie and you perform well you will automatically get more business.
A few points for the girl being posted about:New Meat factor would be true on a board like ECCIE - fairly static number of providers, and any new face get noticed, if not becomes flavor of the month. On BP, where the number of providers are very dynamic, it would be hard to notice someone new among all the other new face. People scanning BP are more concerned with figuring out if she's real or fake, real or scam, real or chemically enhanced, real or...
New meat: more appts when you're new regardless of quality or price
Young: more market for that w/ the latest crop of posting/vocal hobbyists
Non-GFE: seems more in line w/ the latest crop of hobbyists, too. Originally Posted by Kit-4-Kat
I started this biz at the age of 38 & did more biz than the BP girl in the OP for quite a nice run. HH/125 & HR/200: GFE/PSE/BBBJCIM/MPCFS. Probably just a matter of the current market demand combined w/ the new meat thing.Current "crop of hobbyists" might surprise you. The market doesn't change, men's tastes haven't changed, nor does demand for GFE/non-GFE. What may have changed is which few are more vocal on the board and what you tend to notice and think are the dominant voices. The street king sees indies and agency girls, strip club guru spends more time with indies than most people think. Hell, most of my sessions are over-nighters, entire weekends, sometimes 3-4 hour on the short side.
As for passion & how it's conveyed, different strokes for different folks. The woman who can genuinely tap into her passion for the many types of clients she sees is going to be successful no matter what. Some of us have higher libidos & energy levels than others. I can run off sexual energy for HOURS. I've stayed up all night masturbating on cam w/ guys 15 yrs ago w/out even drinking coffee! LOL So, it's a ymwv from girl to girl. That's just the way this biz is sometimes.
I have heard from Austin hobbyists that there are girls charging $300 an hour that should be charging $180 an hour. A provider should be honest with herself and price herself accordingly. If you're a hottie and you perform well you will automatically get more business. Originally Posted by Naomi4uWell Said....
.......What may have changed is which few are more vocal on the board and what you tend to notice and think are the dominant voices. The street king sees indies and agency girls, strip club guru spends more time with indies than most people think. Hell, most of my sessions are over-nighters, entire weekends, sometimes 3-4 hour on the short side.
A lot just don't seem to catch on to that choosing instead to shove us all into some box and discount our money....
That's not to say that most of us sometimes don't enjoy the occassional BnG or quick Wham-Bam-Thank-You-Ma'am sessions. This market has been served by different portions of the hobby before. MPs tend to cater to the 30-60 minute, one-shot, available whenever you are ready to go type of sessions. Some indies who do BnG will take last minute appointments from guys they've seen before. There's always the street scene. CL/BP girls have catered to this market as well. I guess a good question might be what percentage of guys' sessions are these types as opposed to full GFE (or even multi-hour) sessions? Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor
A lot just don't seem to catch on to that choosing instead to shove us all into some box and discount our money.... Originally Posted by WhispersIt's easier to do that than to try to guess or think about people having varying tastes. Magnolia at 3 in the morning is great, as well as Eddie V's or a personal chef.
I like a few (3-5 a week?) "quickies" as well as a similar number of extended sessions....I only do an occasional quickie, maybe a couple a month. Usually 3 or 4 long sessions a week though. When I'm traveling, I tend to try to sneak in at least one or two hourly session a week.
When a girl goes to a new city she's "new meat"..everyone wants her. No matter how long she's been in the hobby. Every time I tour I make more money than I do here at home and then some.sixx
Makes alot of sense....
I was booked solid at $600hr and I came home with some pretty sweet gifts.
There ya go again... bragging!!!
I have heard from Austin hobbyists that there are girls charging $300 an hour that should be charging $180 an hour.
Who in their right mind would say such a thing?
A provider should be honest with herself and price herself accordingly. If you're a hottie and you perform well you will automatically get more business.
Exactly. I may not pay 300/hr for a provider but I know what a 300/hr gal looks like.....
Originally Posted by Naomi4u
I have heard from Austin hobbyists that there are girls charging $300 an hour that should be charging $180 an hour. Originally Posted by Naomi4uWe've been hearing that in Austin for a while now. But I think some hobbyists fail to realize that not every provider is aiming to see as many men as possible. Several of us in the $300+ range ended up at that price point because we were simply overwhelmed with business when our donations were lower. I found myself in that situation, and gradually increased my rate until I felt comfortable with the number of requests I was receiving versus the number of sessions I wanted to book in a week.