How Often Does OTC Really Work Out?

I know you guys have what it takes to hang out with the ladies, did I say otherwise?

Nope.

We're all adults here and we know what's up.

Anyway, do you know what happened to the (BDD) waitress who was so drunk two guys had to carry her to the dressing room? I can't believe she would drink that much

I thought she was a sober girl, I offered her a drink one time and she said no to me.

Based on my best recollection, over the years I’ve received 23 numbers, 7 led to otc, 2 are still TBD, 4 were willing but I changed my mind and did not pursue, and 10 refused any otc interaction.

This is not necessarily representative as I don’t ask for a number unless I’m interested in otc, and I’m very selective about who I would make that request to in the first place.

Based on my experience, I’d say it’s 50-50 odds. And that’s with the deck stacked with high quality, “good” girls almost entirely, that I’ve established rapport with and like and trust.

My OTC success comes from meeting one in a club and get a few dances. Pay her well and buy her drinks. I don’t try anything on the first couple of times we meet inside the club. Then they will eventually be horny one day/night and they ask for play inside but i still turn it down. Before you know it’s them asking for OTC and once it’s set up it’s a good lunch at a nice restaurant follow by some drinks then the boom boom room.

Word will travel fast amongs fancer friends and on my next visit to the club I make sure my regular is not working and that’s when her friends approach me and that’s how I end up with more OTC FUN. It’s a snowball effect. I have trouble meeting so many due to my work traveling schedule which makes me hard to get sort of speak. I’m having threesome and foursomes now due to the word spreading like the plague.

NOTE: this doesn’t happen overnight. I’ve invested time and money over the last 5 years but the return is tremendous. Now I’m only paying every other time I meet them.

NOTE: this doesn’t happen overnight. I’ve invested time and money over the last 5 years but the return is tremendous. Now I’m only paying every other time I meet them. Originally Posted by Whodwho

I think this is the key point. My OP was prompted by the guys who post "exchanged numbers for OTC" on first meeting. It's hard for me to imagine that that works out too often.

Whodwho... You nailed it and it is so easy.
It did work out with *J* after the fist meeting because we clicked. She is young, pretty and fine.

No matter how you get there, the first time she agrees to OTC It should be that day or night! Time is the enemy don’t let logistics get in the way, have a solution in mind for any obstacles. She has made this decision from a place of emotion. Once you’ve met OTC once she’ll be fine with future meets. Whodwho is right about the word of mouth deal. These girls talk and trust each other when it comes to patrons. If she tells another girl “he’s a nice guy” that also implies SAFE! And that’s the biggest hurdle in meeting a girl OTC.

If you let it go a few days, than 90% of time you’ve lost your window of opportunity.

That is true for sure, they all have ADD and working multiple guys.

I have had OTC many times with waitresses, strippers, bartenders, and two female managers. I just take them out of there work mindset on money and they want to hang out. Some didn't want any money and one of my friends taught me it is important to keep the pay barrier there since most are crazy and have issues, he says it's not worth the liability later.

You usually have to build rep with them but a few times on the first meet it works out.

After 2 hours with one chick from the Men's Club, I was ordering her an Uber to get her out as her crazy showed up quickly.

At the club I frequent in Austin, I know just about everyone. And have fucked the majority of the girls that I want to there, some ITC and some OTC. For me the biggest advantage is they all know me and feel comfortable around me. Plus they know I don't go and talk our business to anyone else. Have fucked a few for free but have paid for more. I'm always planting seeds with the new hot girls, send them a drink or tip them well (20 on stage). I seldomly get dances unless I know they're going to play. The girls that have to drink to be at work are the easiest targets. When it's slow, many girls will sit down with me just to chat and for a drink. If I feel a good vibe, and she is super hot then I have tipped 3 ladies $100 for just talking and each time we have ended up going on a date that night or the next. 2/3 I smashed for free and one is staying with me now. Also have never paid for VIP, but am there every weekend.