Spirituality and Sex

LOOK ... I know this subject is uncomfortable for some.
Not all threads are for all people. Pick and choose the ones that you might have positive feedback.

Actually, the OP has this backward at least in the context of citing the above cults because of the "leaders" of these cults . Originally Posted by FunMonday

I'm owning up ... and yes, you are correct. I did have it backwards. Not truly intended ... guess I've been watching to much of the Escape Channel

Should have listed great spiritual leaders who taught about sexuality like Buddah and Lao-Tzu who was a Chinese philosopher credited with founding the philosophical system of Taoism.

OP, what is your definition of spirituality?... defining words and concepts for mutual understanding is vital. Originally Posted by Mr_Machiavelli

Well, I consider myself a spiritual person ... not religious.
It's difficult for me to go to a Christian Church because in the end ... it makes me feel guilty about what I love the most. Having an incredible sexual experience with those whom I connect with.

My sexuality is more profound than the majority of the population, as is I would think most all providers on this board.
The majority of the civilian world try to stick to the dogma beliefs which condemn sex unless it is committed to one partner. THAT idea is not me.

If you have a spiritual connection with someone, which is the most common universal experience then the sex will be off the charts.

Many of us lack knowledge of this. Most likely wants to know it but afraid to.
It is much much bigger than them ... and that scares them away.

If OP is asking if anyone reaches a "spiritual existence" in the context of finding peace and harmony ...... then I would say yes...... Really great sex is one of the few peaceful moments I have experienced over the years. Originally Posted by FunMonday

So...you DO actually get it FM. That's awesome.

Yes. This is actually part of my field of study and this is exactly what happens. The examples in first post are all manipulative killers that couldn't give a rat's ass about spirituality except for using it as a way to manipulate their followers...ending in mass deaths. Originally Posted by B Three

And again .... totally my bad for mentioning them as examples.

On top of that, they were all sociopaths who probably can't even understand the concept of their own spirituality. Originally Posted by B Three

Yes, there are those who become disarranged with what spirituality is all about.

Quote from DavidGuy.org
It is a particular problem when the individual identifies with the energy moving through him, thinks he is as great as the energy itself.
The ultimate example is the lunatic who thinks he is God, or Jesus Christ.

All in all I've had some very amazing experiences with clients whereas, even though they don't realize it is a spiritual experience, it actually is ... at least for me !

Got it. Thanks for the clarification T.

LOOK ... I know this subject is uncomfortable for some.
Not all threads are for all people. Pick and choose the ones that you might have positive feedback.


I'm owning up ... and yes, you are correct. I did have it backwards. Not truly intended ... guess I've been watching to much of the Escape Channel

Should have listed great spiritual leaders who taught about sexuality like Buddah and Lao-Tzu who was a Chinese philosopher credited with founding the philosophical system of Taoism.


Well, I consider myself a spiritual person ... not religious.
It's difficult for me to go to a Christian Church because in the end ... it makes me feel guilty about what I love the most. Having an incredible sexual experience with those whom I connect with.

My sexuality is more profound than the majority of the population, as is I would think most all providers on this board.
The majority of the civilian world try to stick to the dogma beliefs which condemn sex unless it is committed to one partner. THAT idea is not me.

If you have a spiritual connection with someone, which is the most common universal experience then the sex will be off the charts.

Many of us lack knowledge of this. Most likely wants to know it but afraid to.
It is much much bigger than them ... and that scares them away.


So...you DO actually get it FM. That's awesome.


And again .... totally my bad for mentioning them as examples.



Yes, there are those who become disarranged with what spirituality is all about.

Quote from DavidGuy.org
It is a particular problem when the individual identifies with the energy moving through him, thinks he is as great as the energy itself.
The ultimate example is the lunatic who thinks he is God, or Jesus Christ.

All in all I've had some very amazing experiences with clients whereas, even though they don't realize it is a spiritual experience, it actually is ... at least for me !
Originally Posted by Torre Tames

TL;DR

If you admitted that you should not have used three of the worst examples in American history that you used in your original post, that's all that matters. If you did, how many people pointed out to you how fucked up your flawed logic is before you even realized it until B3 stated it at a more educated and enlightenment level than all of the men did? I guess you must think all men are stupid and heartless on here so when we state the obvious, it doesn't matter to you.

TL;DR If you did, how many people pointed out to you how fucked up your flawed logic is before you even realized it until B3 stated it at a more educated level than all of the men did?. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

No. I guess it was the tone of the reply that I felt was worth responding to.

Sometimes, some subjects hit a nerve and/or are a too intellectually challenging than you care to involve yourself in.

I respect that.
So ... Mr. Mcain .... I respectfully ask you to quit bashing the thread.

Perhaps you should represent the man you have in your avatar in a better way.

At least this is not another political / anti Trump thread. Politics always taints sex.

Like Blake Shelton. I’ve got a way with words.

No. I guess it was the tone of the reply that I felt was worth responding to.

Sometimes, some subjects hit a nerve and/or are a too intellectually challenging than you care to involve yourself in.

I respect that.
So ... Mr. Mcain .... I respectfully ask you to quit bashing the thread.

Perhaps you should represent the man you have in your avatar in a better way. Originally Posted by Torre Tames

I have 3 Ivy League degrees. I have plenty of problems, but intellect sure the fuck ain't one of them

I'm not bashing your thread. Stop the victim bullshit to try to get people banned again. If you want people banned for disagreeing with you because of your lack of intellect, this place will be empty by tomorrow.

Basically everyone disagreed with you because of your silly logic in this thread. Do you want us all banned now?

And as far as representing "Lucas McCain", that show died off before my parents were even in middle school. It's a show. Why would I give a fuck about representing a character on a show that was cancelled decades before I was even born? See where this is going as far as intellect? LOL

You just come across as an old and bitter pissed off hooker who hates men.

Torre may i suggest a book?
There was a Belgian yogi named Andre van Lysebeth that wrote three amazing books:
Yoga Self Taught
Pranayama(what he says about humans interacting with negative ions is utterly fascinating)
Tantra- The Cult of the Feminine

Obviously Im suggesting Tantra since you mentioned Tantra, and his discussion of sex and spirituality is quite elucidating.
I think he was badass because he was the first white boy to learn ashtanga yoga from Sri Pattabhi Jois

I figured the shallow people would come out and post on this thread.
Love it when they show their true colors.

Notice I indicated that sex was manipulated by those who use spirituality as a tool.
Yeah .... unfortunately there are those bad people that are famous for it.

THIS THREAD is about how sexuality and spirituality are connected.
Sorry some of you posters don't get that .... your missing out on a whole lot of richness in your life.

In the Hindu

‘Kama Sutra’

and Tibetan Buddhist

‘Tantra’

spiritual development involves the mastery of sexual energy.

Sexuality is a taboo topic in our society because it is one of those primal forces which we consciously or unconsciously feel powerless to control. Deep down, we sense that it is connected to that unknown universal source of energy from which we came from and continue to exist within.
"LoneWolf"


Oh ... and the drunk thing? HA .... No, not drunk.

Cheers,
Torre Originally Posted by Torre Tames

Not all Sex is a spiritual unity

the “spiritual” unity can only be experienced if the unity is receptive among each

Anything else is just a sexual experience with another person, hopefully pleasant

This is very hard to explain and more so explain in writing

Its like being one with each other, a mutual mind set aka spiritual unity, intensely long lasting, complete mind control over your body which is powered by a mutual mind set

A united understanding an in-depth acceptance

It’s unity that is originally created though an acceptance that is understood and then over time is enhanced into spiritual sexual unity that will take you to were no man has been before
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Pun on words

It for sure is not a wam bam thank you mam experience
It is not an Eccie hh with anyone or maybe some might think it is or could be
Maybe it could start there

But a spiritual unity is developed

It can though happen if it is meant to happen and you allow it to happen, although with whom it is meant to happen with

So does that mean it could happen during a hh or hr Eccie encounter

I do know what a sexual spiritual unity is

Do you
You should be able to know but only if first you know yourself

Add on
It s knowing your partner, its providing a welcoming need that is allowed to be provided,

Its like 'being in the zone' - but not in the zone alone.
i've in the zone a lot when i'm doing something, but ive done a lot in life and a lot that has to do with mind control / one with your surroundings -

Sex in the zone is incredible sex - aka a spiritual unity



Sex is a need -



Spiritual sex is a true unity



Eccie is a want


i could go on ...



oh guys.. if you happen to experience this with a woman you meet on eccie - you better have a bank account with a lot of money in it

History shows Sex has been manipulated through the use of a spiritual connection.

Jonestown
Charles Manson
David Koresh
Etc

As much as I do believe these two aspects are related .... there is also THE OTHER kind of sex.

The curiosity lies in ... how many of us feel a spiritual shiver when they are sharing moments of unbelievable sex?
If so....do you fight the feeling?
OR ... are you one that has no inclination it could be a spiritual experience? Originally Posted by Torre Tames

EST Training
1971 to late 1984
In 1971, the Erhard Seminars Training--better known as EST--exploded out of San Francisco to become a worldwide phenomenon. The program promised personal empowerment, but reports claimed that moderators castigated and berated participants for their beliefs. After knocking them down, the moderators raised their spirits through guided meditations and repetitive readings. At the end of the two- or three-day seminar, participants either "got it" and experienced a transcendent life change or walked away dazed and confused.


or Walked away empowered by learning more about your abilities to learn more abt yourself, finding their true self, their internal powers, learn who they are, control who they are, become aware of who they are, become aware of their surrounds, make things happen in life for them selves when those things are ready to happen ..



i dont think anyone killed them selves due to EST - some might have become NUT Heads


the mind is very powerful tool - be careful - it could control you




oh i have very good 'taste' with the women i interact with - just look to the left

A lady gets into my soul..... yes I still feel a connection

EST Training
1971 to late 1984
In 1971, the Erhard Seminars Training--better known as EST--exploded out of San Francisco to become a worldwide phenomenon. The program promised personal empowerment, but reports claimed that moderators castigated and berated participants for their beliefs. After knocking them down, the moderators raised their spirits through guided meditations and repetitive readings. At the end of the two- or three-day seminar, participants either "got it" and experienced a transcendent life change or walked away dazed and confused.


or Walked away empowered by learning more about your abilities to learn more abt yourself, finding their true self, their internal powers, learn who they are, control who they are, become aware of who they are, become aware of their surrounds, make things happen in life for them selves when those things are ready to happen ..



i dont think anyone killed them selves due to EST - some might have become NUT Heads


the mind is very powerful tool - be careful - it could control you Originally Posted by Texas_Size_Smurf

You seem well informed and educated on this subject, maybe recommend some research material such as books for the OP to start learning about it

Maybe next time she won't start threads about cult leaders who abuse their members again. Then gets touchy when people here point it out to her. SMH

I have 3 Ivy League degrees. I have plenty of problems, but intellect sure the fuck ain't one of them

I'm not bashing your thread. Stop the victim bullshit to try to get people banned again. If you want people banned for disagreeing with you because of your lack of intellect, this place will be empty by tomorrow.

Basically everyone disagreed with you because of your silly logic in this thread. Do you want us all banned now?

And as far as representing "Lucas McCain", that show died off before my parents were even in middle school. It's a show. Why would I give a fuck about representing a character on a show that was cancelled decades before I was even born? See where this is going as far as intellect? LOL

You just come across as an old and bitter pissed off hooker who hates men. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Rodeo boy
my cowboy boots have true wear and use and they show it



this is what is happening in life now-a-days


first i only have a BA degree almost 2 aka BS degree - although not from a Ive League but form well know Uni.. plus i have a some what a degree acquired through world travels alone and interacting on the wrong side of the street aka known as street smarts and having the ability to talk your self out of being killed by the person who has put a gun to your head - now thats living on the edge of any mountain cliff


so heres what happening and more so in this industry -



One is a Very Lonely Number
Life is not meant to be traveled through ALONE


a lot of us have a lot of free alone time and thats not good


and for those cheating on their wife - you are really truly alone

i dont see the connection of trying to get people banded for disagreeing with anything in this posting


maybe i need an Ive League degree in order to see the connection


Cheers
bless your heart
thats a Texas thing

just laugh


to conclude
You just come across as an old and bitter pissed off hooker who hates men.


That's one hell of a nice sexy looking body that she has -

so i wonder who is really the bitter one

and i bet shes a very interesting person in her own way



FYI
hooker is so passe
provider is a more gentleman


Ivy League's could never teach that

^^^ Sorry dude, had to stop reading because you lost me at rodeo boy and old cowboy boots so I'll just go ahead and assume that you are just an old timer trying to "put me in my place".

Good for you for your attempt at chivalry, but bad for you because none of it matters to people like me

I don't believe it was the OP's intent to glamorize cults or their leaders (dictators) with misguided lectures about spirituality as they essentially brainwash the flock to believe a pseudo-god will lead them to the next rapture only if they give up mind, body, and soul and their kids. At least I hope not. OP simply has not educated herself on this and other topics as she has demonstrated in previous posts.

That said it did touch a nerve. If you know someone who was forced to grow up in a cult you know it's very disturbing and most of these people are scarred for life. Frankly, I can't believe anyone would associate a cult with state of spirituality...or anything good. Or become so defensive when others point out the concerns. But we have all types here in ECCIE.