Although not really an Eagles song "Heart of the Matter."
I've seen Van Halen several times since 1977. It's my understanding that on the VH recordings Michael Anthony hit all the high notes and not DLR. I saw him perform with Sammy a year ago and was front row and sure enough, he sang all the high notes. I think Sammy said Michael was "born with a piccolo." I hope he was talking about his singing voice.
Originally Posted by gnadfly
''Heart of the Matter'' is great. and Anthony got fucked over by Van Halen, in much the same way as Felder by the eagles.
Hagar made it a point to stay loyal to Anthony, because he, too, got fucked.
I saw an interview with Plant and Page (only a few years ago) and they said producers came to them with an ungodly amount of money and an idea of a tour and letting John Bohman's son play drums. They turned it down. I guess they already have an ungodly amount of money.
BTW, when I saw Hagar 1-2 years ago, Bohnam was drumming.
Originally Posted by gnadfly
Ungodly money indeed. Plus Plant can't hit the notes anymore. Why fuck up your legacy, even if you can make even more money than you could spend in 4 lifetimes?
I saw a Don Henley interview talking about the most recent incarnations of the band. He mentioned something about they saw the value of keeping the band together. I guess there is never enough money.
There is that, plus the mention that the band members just show up for the show, then go their separate ways until the next show.
As gnadfly stated in an earlier post, he saw Sammy play with Bonham's son drumming ..... that's the same group (Sammy Hagar and the Circle) I saw believe it or not just this past February at the San Antonio rodeo ..... that's what so great about Sammy, he will put a band together and play with anybody, plus it's great to see ex Van Halen bass player Michael Anthony singing those high notes ..... but the band I really hope to see some day is Chickenfoot, with Hagar and Anthony, plus Joe Satriani on lead guitar and Chad Smith (from the Red Hot Chili Peppers) on drums ..... Sammy had done a couple of CDs with the Circle and with Chickenfoot and they're all great ..... Sammy must be about 73 years old now, but the dude can still rock out .....
Good explanation on Led Zep but IIRRC there were some legalities to the "incorporation" of Led Zep that prevented them from continuing under that name after Bonham died. Maybe it had something to do with the production company you mentioned. I read a biography on them some years ago. I just don't remember all the details of why they couldn't tour as Led Zep. They toured as Page/Plant for a while I believe. I don't think Jones joined them. It had to be all four or no Led Zep. The story that has been given, is that Bonham had such an effect on their live performances and the music actually changed considerably from the studio cuts mostly because of what he was able to do, they just didn't think another drummer could duplicate what they did on stage. If there was ever such a thing as a lead drummer Bonham was it.
This 10 minute video is great at detailing how much he actually contributed.
Originally Posted by boardman
potential legaleze notwithstanding, i think it was who Bonham was as a drummer especially live that doomed Led Zep when he died. loudest drum solo i ever heard. played the drums bare handed like bongos. the echo was unbelievable.
i saw the original lineup 3 times in 1977, Indy, Cincy and Louisville.
i also saw the Unleaded tour twice in Indy and St. Louis. legaleze might be why it was called the the Unledded tour. and Jones was apparently not invited and wasn't too happy about it i recall hearing.
it certainly was different hearing Led Zep songs backed by orchestra musicians but it was kool. Kashmir with a string section was amazing.
Although not really an Eagles song "Heart of the Matter."
I've seen Van Halen several times since 1977. It's my understanding that on the VH recordings Michael Anthony hit all the high notes and not DLR. I saw him perform with Sammy a year ago and was front row and sure enough, he sang all the high notes. I think Sammy said Michael was "born with a piccolo." I hope he was talking about his singing voice.
Originally Posted by gnadfly
saw VH several times starting in 1977 also. last time was 1985 i think in Louisville. they sucked. Eddie was obviously drunk and kept fucking up. Roth wasn't too happy with him and even shouted at him a few times to "get yer shit together, Ed!" short of sobering up that wasn't gonna happen. Roth apparently didn't party while on tour so Eddie's partying was part of the issue he left. the other was differences in VH's musical direction. Eddie wanted a more "pop rock" sound with synthesizers and such, which was the in thing at that time. Roth disagreed.
I saw an interview with Plant and Page (only a few years ago) and they said producers came to them with an ungodly amount of money and an idea of a tour and letting John Bohman's son play drums. They turned it down. I guess they already have an ungodly amount of money.
BTW, when I saw Hagar 1-2 years ago, Bohnam was drumming.
Originally Posted by gnadfly
i hear they've had big bucks thrown at them more than once. at one point i recall hearing Plant was offered 200-250 million but he would have had to cancel his tour with Allison Krause to do it. he turned it down on principle upfront while also noting that the money was really just to pay off all the inevitable lawsuits and while Plant didn't need the money he wasn't big on a bunch of lawyers taking most of it.
that offer apparently did happen but Plant wanted to tour with Krauss
i also recall Richard Branson offering at least 800 million perhaps even 1 billion and Plant turned that down too. that apparently didn't really happen .. just another interwebs rumor.
Plant wanted the O2 show to be their .. wait for it .. Swan Song. bahhaa
none of the remaining three were happy with Live Aid, it did suck. Plant especially didn't like it. having two drummers wasn't such a good idea either, let's face it Phil Collins .. you ain't John Bonhan. they also weren't overly big about the set they did even with Jason for the Atlantic records 40rh anniversary.
clearly the biggest issue with these two shows is the fact they didn't really have time to properly rehearse. they did for the O2 show and of course it showed in their performance.
i don't thnik there is any chance today of a tour or even a one off show again.
probably for the better really. none of them needs the money but i wonder how Jones can get up in the morning worth "only" a paltry 90 mil while Page clocks in at 180 and Plant 200 m. yeah .. that morning cup of tea must taste bitter.
While we are including other rock groups, what about the Bee Gees ? Incredible legacy of songs.
Who can guess which song was the first one that Barry Gibb used his falsetto......without looking it up.
From then on, that became the sound of the Bee Gees.
^^Good thread i love the Bee Gee’s I’m not sure about your question but my favorite song is “How deep is your love” and “More than a women”
I saw Earth Wind and Fire at the Majestic Theater years ago in San Antonio ant they were awesome.
“Too Much Heaven” I think there’s just to many to choose a fav. I’m listening to the greatest hits right now and Andy Gibbs just has a special voice as well
''Heart of the Matter'' is great. and Anthony got fucked over by Van Halen, in much the same way as Felder by the eagles.
Hagar made it a point to stay loyal to Anthony, because he, too, got fucked.
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
Correct. I heard that VH rearranged Anthony's percentage at the fourth VH record. He had no choice. Then again he didn't write songs and good bassists are plentiful. What VH did to get Alex's son to replace him in the band was inexuseable. They didn't tell Anthony and it appears Alex and Eddie manuevered for at least a year to make it happen. Anthony seems over it.
Correct. I heard that VH rearranged Anthony's percentage at the fourth VH record. He had no choice. Then again he didn't write songs and good bassists are plentiful. What VH did to get Alex's son to replace him in the band was inexuseable. They didn't tell Anthony and it appears Alex and Eddie manuevered for at least a year to make it happen. Anthony seems over it.
Originally Posted by gnadfly
It was Eddie's son who replaced Anthony, not Alex's son.
Bassists are plentiful, but a guy who pounds a Jack Daniels Bass has to command more respect!
It was Eddie's son who replaced Anthony, not Alex's son.
Bassists are plentiful, but a guy who pounds a Jack Daniels Bass has to command more respect!
Originally Posted by Chung Tran
yeah it was Ed's boy Wolfgang. Eddie did fuck Micheal Anthony over . even claimed at one point he had to "teach" him how to play bass? this after he'd been VH's bass player for a couple decades?
if you say so Eddie.
but since he's worth about 70M i don't think he cares what Eddie says these days
Life in the Fast Lane is awesome. Call the doctor I think I'm gonna crash, doctor say he's coming but you gotta pay in cash!!!
Witchy Woman, I swear is about my current ATF. Raven Hair and Ruby Lips, sparks fly from her fingertips. I get a chub when i hear that song with the indian drums start. LOL.
