Gene Simmons: Unvaccinated People are ‘Delusional’ and ‘An Enemy’

Didn't you post a survival rate of 98% for SARS CoV2? If you did, then the death rate would be 2%. The two together have to add up to 100, right? Originally Posted by adav8s28

I don't recall posting any statistic not on this thread anyway.

I don't know what to believe from any source.. Originally Posted by ICU 812

for all the reasons and more is why everyone should be at this point.

It didn't have to be this way.

Even if things change, you can admit it and say, "this is how we're going to proceed".
Instead, we were pushed what they wanted to do from the start and they just massaged data and definitions to suit whatever that was.

This wasn't some "whoops, mistake" with the leadership/message. It was purposely confusing and outright absurd. You don't quarantine the healthy. You cannot bring your entire economy to a screeching halt in 2 weeks and think you can crank it back up as normal. The experiment worked....just look at what we're accepting now because "someone" told us by mass suggestion. Look how quickly and easily they have been able to polarize everyone against each other, making anyone an enemy undeserving of consideration as a fellow human.


Since this started, they have normalized

• mass mail-in voting ballots that cannot be validated
• not only wanton censorship but the ability to DELETE entire people for no cause
• unchecked, unlimited executive power in every stage of government (that still going on)
• disregard for the most basic human right, freedom of your own body is no longer yours
• we're okay with and CHEER (police) beating citizens who don't wear a mask
• while at the same time being okay with police just watching murders, vandals and rapists do whatever they want
• mass violence / utter destruction ('riots') is now considered normal civil disobedience
• everyone must be a purple-haired trannyqueer POC+
• open contempt and hate for anything considered "white" european
• just blindly accepting ANY authority as god without question even when they have ZERO SANCTIONED power (FDA, CDC, OSHA, etc)
• abolition of the United States is how "patriotism" is defined
• acceptance of UBI by putting everyone out of work and making them rely on government stimulus
• people that want to raise a family and live in the suburbs are now labelled TERRORISTS!

Even if we "go back", you can't stuff this geni back in the bottle. Society has been destroyed.

FC - well written
More divisiveness from the democraticommunist party and LSM

FC - well written
More divisiveness from the democraticommunist party and LSM Originally Posted by oeb11

it started in 2020....Trump and his band of spineless cucks did nothing different than the current bandwagon of idiots

supreme leader does not care for that kind of talk

maybe the vaccine is only a flu shot after all?
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That would be the case if the SARS CoV2 virus establishes a pattern like Influenza_A (keeps mutating) then yes the Moderna and Pfizer two shot and the J&J one shot vaccines were essentially a "FLU" shot. If SARS CoV2 virus keeps mutating you would have to get a booster shot every year like you do for Influenza_A.

I don't recall posting any statistic not on this thread anyway. Originally Posted by Levianon17

It was not this thread. It was another thread. You posted that the survival rate of SARS CoV2 was 98%. I think this is about right. The survival rate of SARS CoV2 has to be lower that the survival rate of Influenza_A. Influenz_A typically kills 60,000 people per year. It has never killed 500,000 people in one year like SARS CoV2 (CoVid 19).

You are totally cool to hold whatever beliefs you have and act accordingly however you want.
However, much of what you're posting here just simply isn't true with regards to basic definitions. People for vaccination and for lockdowns are aware of these corrections. No one questions this

SARS CoV2 virus Originally Posted by adav8s28

"SARS CoV2" IS the common cold and has been known as this for decades.

the Moderna and Pfizer two shot and the J&J one shot vaccines were essentially a "FLU" shot. Originally Posted by adav8s28

The term, "vaccine" was redefined in 2021. Why?
The "COVID19" "vaccine" has ZERO artifacts of "COVID19".

It isn't what anyone would classify as a "vaccine", that introduces a weak strain into your body to build a natural defense.

What they've been shooting everyone up with is an mRNA immune response 'code'. This is exactly what it was designed to do, which is attack / protein spike as a defense mechanism against foreign biological entites (i.e. it resets your immune system). This is why you need boosters and why people are developing ADE.

If SARS CoV2 virus keeps mutating you would have to get a booster shot every year like you do for Influenza_A. Originally Posted by adav8s28

except the annual "flu shot" is something that introduces the new mutation. The booster "COVID19" shots are about rejuvenating your immune system because it has been degraded (by the mRNA programming).




Again, act accordingly. You're not 'wrong' in whatever you believe. The terms you're using in this post do not match up with any reality, though.

Good for you, brother. And congrats for discovering the “edit” button.

Remember, you’ve got an hour between he time you hit submit and the time someone reports your use of the N word.

As for the rest of your opinions, well, they’re just that, your opinions.

Doc.

What two qualities have democraticommunists in overwhelming abundance????

You are totally cool to hold whatever beliefs you have and act accordingly however you want.
However, much of what you're posting here just simply isn't true with regards to basic definitions. People for vaccination and for lockdowns are aware of these corrections. No one questions this


"SARS CoV2" IS the common cold and has been known as this for decades.

The term, "vaccine" was redefined in 2021. Why?
The "COVID19" "vaccine" has ZERO artifacts of "COVID19".

It isn't what anyone would classify as a "vaccine", that introduces a weak strain into your body to build a natural defense.

What they've been shooting everyone up with is an mRNA immune response 'code'. This is exactly what it was designed to do, which is attack / protein spike as a defense mechanism against foreign biological entites (i.e. it resets your immune system). This is why you need boosters and why people are developing ADE.


except the annual "flu shot" is something that introduces the new mutation. The booster "COVID19" shots are about rejuvenating your immune system because it has been degraded (by the mRNA programming).




Again, act accordingly. You're not 'wrong' in whatever you believe. The terms you're using in this post do not match up with any reality, though. Originally Posted by FatCity

FC, I did not misspeak. In reality you got one thing right and a couple of things wrong.

1. The virus that causes the common cold (Upper Respiratory infection -URI) can be caused by different viruses types. Here are some examples (Rhinoviruses, Influenza, AdenoVirus, Echoviruses, Seasonal Coronavirus). The last one mentioned is what you got hung up on. Seasonal Coronavirus(HCoVs) is different than SARS-CoV-2. The formal name Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2). This virus is a desendent of the SARS virus that broke out in 2000 - 2004.
Bottom line The seasonal coronavirus that can cause a cold and SARS-CoV-2 are in the corona virus family but are totally different viruses.

2. We are in agreement about how the m-RNA platform works differently that a traditional vaccine like for measles smallpox and polio. We just wrote it a different way.
The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 was mapped by 1st quarter 2020. From there the m-RNA has instructions a (sequence of amino acids) needed to make the antibody for the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2). It will only start making it if one gets infected with SARS-CoV-2). What is called the Antigen/Antibody reponse. Should the m-RNA platform be called a vaccine? I will leave that to the CDC folks. The end result is the same an Antigen/Antibody response.

3. The Flu shot introduces a new mutation, yes and the booster for the SARS-CoV-2 will have the instructions to make a different antibody for SARS-CoV-2. We have had the Alpha,Beta,Gamma,Delta and Mu variants so far. The first vaccine has worked well against these variants /mutations. The booster is needed for the new mutations that will have occurred from the first edition of SARS-CoV-2. It remains to be seen if SARS-CoV-2 will mutate every year like influenza_A virus.

Wiki is your friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe..._coronavirus_2

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/c...on_cold_causes

It was not this thread. It was another thread. You posted that the survival rate of SARS CoV2 was 98%. I think this is about right. The survival rate of SARS CoV2 has to be lower that the survival rate of Influenza_A. Influenz_A typically kills 60,000 people per year. It has never killed 500,000 people in one year like SARS CoV2 (CoVid 19). Originally Posted by adav8s28

The 500,000 deaths depends on the actual number of cases. There's a good chance the numbers of cases and deaths is highly skewed.

The whole Pandemic thing is confusing. Somehow i don't think we (any of us) have access to the whole truth about any of it.

At this point, who really cares if it came from a lab in China (I think it did)? What matters is what will happen going forward and what we will do . . .or be able to do.

Has not been proven either way. Same Amino acid sequence has been found in other corona viruses.Which would mean it did not come from the lab.

First we were told to not wear a mask, but wash everything abd fist-bump hello . . .and all that has changed back and forth several times.

N95 & KN95 masks are the best if you can get one.

I got vaccinated when I could and got the third booster shot when I could. Turns out it isn't actually a vaccine in the classical sense or as Louis Pasture discovered it. Not like the Polio vaccine or the vaccines for Mumps, Measles, whooping Cough etc. Rather it is (as I understand it) a recently developed gene therapy .

Correct. M-RNA is chain of amino acids that has instructions to make the antibody for the spike protein component of SARS-CoV-2

And It doesn't keep us from being infected or passing it along to others either. It does seem to diminish the symptoms when you do get infected. Most younger people cn shake it off. Most older people die from it or complications from it.

Older people can have a more difficult time with protein systhesis required to make the antibody,even though the M-RNA has the instructions.

People who survive the virus were said to then have "Natural Immunity". Now I am seeing stories that contradict that, with pandemic survivors being re-infected and sick for a second time. And because of the outright lying bout mask wearing (do we mask-up or not?) I don't know what to believe from any source.

If someone got infected twice it was a probably with a different variant. Example Alpha variant the first time, delta variant the second time.

It is not clear to me what therapy protocols work. We are told many things do work in some cases and we are told that these same therapies are quackery. Some doctors with serious credentials sware that what they are doing saves lives. Doctors with more credentials say these treatments do not work . . .but they are not treating patients, they are "officials" of one sort or another.
The Regeneron antibodies have worked for well known people Trump, Gov Christi, Ben Carson, Gov Greg Abbott etc. It's winding down. Hang in there.
Originally Posted by ICU 812

You had some good questions/observations.

the booster for the SARS-CoV-2 will have the instructions to make a different antibody for SARS-CoV-2. We have had the Alpha,Beta,Gamma,Delta and Mu variants so far. The first vaccine has worked well against these variants /mutations. The booster is needed for the new mutations that will have occurred from the first edition of SARS-CoV-2. It remains to be seen if SARS-CoV-2 will mutate every year like influenza_A virus. Originally Posted by adav8s28

at no point has this ever been presented in any media / press release.
You're looking for justification / assumptions just to desperately keep your original position. What you assume makes total sense....however, NONE of what is actually going on with "pandemic" response has.




Do what you want but what you're declaring has no basis in reality.
"Boosters" are just the exact same shit you got before. Medical staff aren't keeping different stockpiles of Shot #1, Shot#2 and Booster A,B,C

Acknowledging this doesn't mean you have to change your position, but you've got nothing to support your claim

Dude… someone wanna step up with some neighborly advice for the man?

TWK comes to mind Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

No, you can say anything you want, as long as it doesn’t violate the incredibly loose rules we live by in here.

Again, I defer to Waco for action on this, FC. But we both know what you posted. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider