Legitimate political discourse!

... FBI and DOJ surely bein' rather quiet about all of this.

Ray Epps - quiet... And the "pipe-bomber" - quiet.

Could they be agents of the government??

We know that the blokes involved in the so-called
Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plot are.

Reckon that's Law and Order in America.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
No actually those are your conspiracy theories that live rent free in your head, but hey if your don't like it here go back home!
I won't miss ya!
What wrong no comment for treason?
Com'on try to the defend the indefensible again.
You done it so many times why are you afraid of this one?
You"ll want to ignore me so you can sit here and and play gotcha and defending the indefensible.
But treason has been done like it or not, by ya'll's boy Trumpy!
What a cute name for a fucking monster!
And Gristle, what does it take for you to recognize treason?
How about having the Voting machines sezied, that plan fell through because the 3 or 4 agency's he demanded that from told him to fuck off!
Him asking that question alone was treason!
Then theres that Vince Lombardy coup plot, always a MAGA crowd pleaser, the Green Bay sweep!
Did Vince Lombardy ever pull off a coup using that?
He wasn't running one of those Banana Republics in the off season was he?

Those are the ones that are able to be proven at this time.
And they will be!
They have morons confessing to the Green Bay sweep on television and Ear witnesses and recordings to the the attempted theft of the American peoples votes!

Treason! Treason! Treason!

This is some real Bannana Republican Bullshit!
And Bannana Republican Bullshit is anti American, and unconstitutional, and let's not forget Facist!
I asked in a PM to my bud lusty, how far from jailing our political rivals as that stalwart Bananna Republican douchbag Newt the shithead gengrich says they are going to do when they are a majority again!
How far from that is shooting them?
He never got back to me on it?
Do you all have murder in you?
Have you all ever killed?
Have you ever watched anything die that you had something to do with its demise?
I'm not talking about when the orange menace whips you all into a frenzy like the crows in my yard, and you go kill a couple of cops at the capitol, I'm talking about you, personally?
If you've done it and are a normal person, you know you really don't want to do it again.
Could you do that in cold blood?
That's what Facist tend to do!
Jailem and shootem!
It straight out of the Facist handbook, I'm sure there one out there!




The threshold for treason has been more than met, and I'm not talking about those bone heads you see in Berry's photos that he got from the MAGA photo bucket.
They will not be charged with treason nore should they be.
Im OK with how they are being charged!
They were only the useful idiots!

The only thing really left to assertain is intent and who's in on what conspiracy and what did they do!
You have those idiots self admitting to thier green Bay sweep, that is a coup remember I said that to stage a coup weapons were not required?
They admittedly tried to put it into action, they felt it only failed because of the insurrection!
This is from their mouth to my ears,soft peddle it all you wish but that alone fits the threshold.
Also bear in mind that in this country treason cannot only be against the country and the people, but against the constitution. People forget or don't understand America is real estate, The United States of America is its constitution, it is an idea, an experiment! And you can commit treason against that idea, against the constitution!
And that threshold has been more than met too! The Green Bay sweep is that sort of crime, the fraudulent electors they are those sorts of crimes!
The fraudulent electors will probably be charged with fraud.
But it is a crime against the constitution.
They are trying to perform unconstitutional actions to retain control of the country, a bloodless coup!
And we all know how much Nazis hate blood!
No weapons required!
Yep treason!
I never thought those classes I was forced to sit through in the Army would ever be handy!

One more thing the language legitimate political discourse was used intentionally, they could not decide wither to use the word legal or legitimate either way its a farce. Originally Posted by Dogface78
HDGristle's Avatar
I see what you're looking at, but that case needs to be air tight if it's going to be made and charges brought.

It's not about whether I feel it, or believe it or know it. That's immaterial. It's about whether it can be and is proven in court. You're clearly on board for it. I'm reserving judgement on those grounds until I see more.

That would be one of the most politically charged and divisive cases in this nation's history and one it may not recover from, win or lose. That's just as much part of the calculus, even though you see it clearly. I see piles of gray and cloudiness because of minutia.
I see what you're looking at, but that case needs to be air tight if it's going to be made and charges brought. Originally Posted by HDGristle
Yes you are correct, and that's why you don't see any actions being taken by the DOJ at this time.
It will come!
But let's call it for what it is.
Weither it devides us more or not. As I mentioned to you before , we deal harshly with our foreign enemy's and cannot be afraid to deal with the domestic ones either.
The Neville Chamberlain approach to facisim dosent work, that was proven in the 30s.
We are a country of laws, we must enforce those laws!
No matter where that may lead!
Remember the 70s bombings the weather underground and those assholes and others?
We will survive it!
What wrong no comment for treason?
Com'on try to the defend the indefensible again.
You done it so many times why are you afraid of this one?
You"ll want to ignore me so you can sit here and and play gotcha and defending the indefensible.
But treason has been done like it or not, by ya'll's boy Trumpy!
What a cute name for a fucking monster!
And Gristle, what does it take for you to recognize treason?
How about having the Voting machines sezied, that plan fell through because the 3 or 4 agency's he demanded that from told him to fuck off!
Him asking that question alone was treason!
Then theres that Vince Lombardy coup plot, always a MAGA crowd pleaser, the Green Bay sweep!
Did Vince Lombardy ever pull off a coup using that?
He wasn't running one of those Banana Republics in the off season was he?

Those are the ones that are able to be proven at this time.
And they will be!
They have morons confessing to the Green Bay sweep on television and Ear witnesses and recordings to the the attempted theft of the American peoples votes!

Treason! Treason! Treason!

This is some real Bannana Republican Bullshit!
And Bannana Republican Bullshit is anti American, and unconstitutional, and let's not forget Facist!
I asked in a PM to my bud lusty, how far from jailing our political rivals as that stalwart Bananna Republican douchbag Newt the shithead gengrich says they are going to do when they are a majority again!
How far from that is shooting them?
He never got back to me on it?
Do you all have murder in you?
Have you all ever killed?
Have you ever watched anything die that you had something to do with its demise?
I'm not talking about when the orange menace whips you all into a frenzy like the crows in my yard, and you go kill a couple of cops at the capitol, I'm talking about you, personally?
If you've done it and are a normal person, you know you really don't want to do it again.
Could you do that in cold blood?
That's what Facist tend to do!
Jailem and shootem!
It straight out of the Facist handbook, I'm sure there one out there!

Originally Posted by Dogface78
Treason!
What wrong no comment for treason?
Com'on try to the defend the indefensible again.
You done it so many times why are you afraid of this one?
You"ll want to ignore me so you can sit here and and play gotcha and defending the indefensible.
But treason has been done like it or not, by ya'll's boy Trumpy!
What a cute name for a fucking monster!
And Gristle, what does it take for you to recognize treason?
How about having the Voting machines sezied, that plan fell through because the 3 or 4 agency's he demanded that from told him to fuck off!
Him asking that question alone was treason!
Then theres that Vince Lombardy coup plot, always a MAGA crowd pleaser, the Green Bay sweep!
Did Vince Lombardy ever pull off a coup using that?
He wasn't running one of those Banana Republics in the off season was he?

Those are the ones that are able to be proven at this time.
And they will be!
They have morons confessing to the Green Bay sweep on television and Ear witnesses and recordings to the the attempted theft of the American peoples votes!

Treason! Treason! Treason!

This is some real Bannana Republican Bullshit!
And Bannana Republican Bullshit is anti American, and unconstitutional, and let's not forget Facist!
I asked in a PM to my bud lusty, how far from jailing our political rivals as that stalwart Bananna Republican douchbag Newt the shithead gengrich says they are going to do when they are a majority again!
How far from that is shooting them?
He never got back to me on it?
Do you all have murder in you?
Have you all ever killed?
Have you ever watched anything die that you had something to do with its demise?
I'm not talking about when the orange menace whips you all into a frenzy like the crows in my yard, and you go kill a couple of cops at the capitol, I'm talking about you, personally?
If you've done it and are a normal person, you know you really don't want to do it again.
Could you do that in cold blood?
That's what Facist tend to do!
Jailem and shootem!
It straight out of the Facist handbook, I'm sure there one out there!

Originally Posted by Dogface78
Treason!
Jacuzzme's Avatar
The pharmacy was closed?
That's the best explanation you have for treason?
What Trump was off his med's, because the pharmacy was closed?
Sorry that won't cut it!
Try again!


The pharmacy was closed? Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Jacuzzme's Avatar
Realizing you might not have gotten that far, but still willing to offer up what is hopefully a refresher; the squiggly thing with a dot underneath is a question mark. It’s indicative of a query, not a statement.
So what does my education level have to do with Trump's treason? Quit hijacking the thread, it is about treason!



Realizing you might not have gotten that far, but still willing to offer up what is hopefully a refresher; the squiggly thing with a dot underneath is a question mark. It’s indicative of a query, not a statement. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Treason!

This statement and the the film that goes with it from 1/6 will no doubt be used in all of the online courses on how to become a dictator!
Legitimate Political Discourse will no doubt become a class in and of it self, and the flim a teaching aid!
Kinda like the war college sandboxing various battles.
Apparently Trump failed that course, but we'll not bring that up.

The film is actually fascinating because every time I watch it, I see a different assault on some poor capitol police officer by a fascist that I never noticed before!
Kinda like looking at snowflakes, no two being alike!
No I don't mean Donald Trump, I mean real snowflakes!

It is interesting because if you watch one section of the video you see bears spray being shot into the faces of capitol police officers, another being crushed by the crowd between doors, there was even a hockey stick beating on some poor cop!
But if you look at another part you can see officer Fanone getting the living shit beat out of him and having a heart attack!
Hes become a real celebrity, I like him no snowflake there, he's determined to see justice done!
Gotta respect that unless of course your a right wing thug, seems to be alot of those around the country lately!

Just watched a video of Nazis in Florida standing in the street yelling out antisemitic slurs and carrying flags with swastikas on them!
Legitimately politically discoursing???
Surprisingly I didn't see any confederate flags there, but of course I am in my dotage and perhaps I just didn't notice!

Uh, oh I think somebody forgot to make a phone call!

All of the sudden some kid confronts them about it, and several of them beat his ass!
Any one of Them probably could have done themselves.
But just like officer Fanone I guess they were going to make sure the job was done right!
And when some demtard interfers with you while your conducting legitimate political discourse, you of course beat the living shit out of him!
And that's always easier to do in a group and it saves you time for more of that legitimate political discourse!
And of course it brings you and your right wing thug associates together!
They of course got the job done efficiently and were back to politically discoursing in no time at all!
Ya know, I thought that type of politicaly discoursing went the way of the Dodo bird in 1945 in Germany after that dictators defeat, but I should remember that the classics never go out of style! Originally Posted by Dogface78
No actually those are your conspiracy theories that live rent free in your head, but hey if your don't like it here go back home!
I won't miss ya! Originally Posted by Dogface78
... Conspiracy theories?? ... Now that's a royal joke.

Where you been? ... The CAUGHT the blokes involved with
the plot to "kidnap" Gov. Whitmer.

TWO of them were government agents. (DOJ)...

You must have missed that. ... AND Ray Epps.

### Salty
Salty, This has nothing to do with the post, but not sure how to ask.
Is the citizens test as hard as they say?
Do you think most American could pass it?

... Conspiracy theories?? ... Now That's a royal joke.

Where you been? ... The CAUGHT the blokes involved with
the plot to "kidnap" Gov. Whitmer.

TWO of them were government agents. (DOJ)...

You must have missed that. ... AND Ray Epps.

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
... No. ... You're able to prep for it.

Could most Americans pass the US Citizen Test?
I'd surely imagine so.

### Salty
Actually I don't believe that most Americans could pass it without prior preparation.
Before the recruiter would allow me to join the Army I had to take my ged because my first MOS required it, I had already passed the asvab for that MOS.
I passed I think it was an 8 hour test in about 5 hours or so.
But I had just dropped out 6 months before and that stuff was fresh.
I couldn't probably do that same test like that again without prepping.
And even though we screw around on here using the constitution to make our points.
But there is no one in here citing it from memory, and that is most of that test from my understanding.
You can correct me if I'm wrong Salty.



... No. ... You're able to prep for it.

Could most Americans pass the US Citizen Test?
I'd surely imagine so.

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again