How many Americans died of COVID-19?

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A 20% bump in reimbursement for Medicaid/care patients, which not only created the incentive to classify deaths, but also to provide radical treatments that weren’t called for. Ventilator = Coffin and everyone knew it. With some doctors actually having a conscience, staff became wholly unqualified, which didn’t help, nor did the fact that so many Americans are fat slobs.

A nitric oxide inhaler, or even over the counter allergy spray, used at strategic times is all people needed to protect themselves from anything more than a mild cold. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Doctor J- is that what you prescribe for mild cold covid? You may want to check that medical degree from the that elite institution?

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Dr J is a cool name, but I’m not the one with a medical degree.

And yes, it’s a strong defense against Covid. Covid and viruses get bad with a high viral load, the nasal inhaler is effective in preventing that. It’s a defense mechanism more than a treatment, although it helps there too. I’d suggest you ask some doctors before coming to uninformed conclusions.

Read and learn, Padawan.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna228500

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...19-study-finds

It’s a shame that this study was only done recently when doctors knew it from day 1.
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Too late to edit the post, but I believe that I misspoke re nitric oxide. Pretty sure it was actually iodine spray.
A 20% bump in reimbursement for Medicaid/care patients, which not only created the incentive to classify deaths, but also to provide radical treatments that weren’t called for. Ventilator = Coffin and everyone knew it. With some doctors actually having a conscience, staff became wholly unqualified, which didn’t help, nor did the fact that so many Americans are fat slobs.

A nitric oxide inhaler, or even over the counter allergy spray, used at strategic times is all people needed to protect themselves from anything more than a mild cold. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
They're definitely was no 20% bump that's a Facebook or other source bullshit.

I'm not arguing about it because it actually don't matter now but that's all BS.

I know for a fact I have a friend that work in emergency room and he seen the bills there was no 20% bump with you guys can believe that if you want that and they're eating the dogs and the cats and the war is going to be over as soon as Trump gets in office and he's already stopped nine war's.

https://www.aha.org/news/blog/2020-1...s-and-payments.

I personally don't want to argue about us I could care.
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You disprove your idiotic statement with your own article. I did not say, and what the article is explaining, that hospitals did not get expanded payments if a patient dies of COVID. The hospital’s ~treatment~ was reimbursed at a 20% higher rate, whether they lived or died didn’t matter.

Maybe read before looking like a fool next time. From your posted link:

If a Medicare patient has been diagnosed with COVID-19 and needs to be admitted to a hospital, the payment to the hospital is increased by 20% to reflect the additional costs of treating a patient with COVID-19.
Also, your pretend friend who “work in emergency room” would have no idea whatsoever what patients are being billed, that’s not what ER staff does. Any hospital not in Mayberry has an entire department dedicated to accounts receivable. Orderlies don’t write up an invoice like the fucking drain cleaner guy ffs.
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Dr J is a cool name, but I’m not the one with a medical degree Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
We know
You disprove your idiotic statement with your own article. I did not say, and what the article is explaining, that hospitals did not get expanded payments if a patient dies of COVID. The hospital’s ~treatment~ was reimbursed at a 20% higher rate, whether they lived or died didn’t matter.

Maybe read before looking like a fool next time. From your posted link:



Also, your pretend friend who “work in emergency room” would have no idea whatsoever what patients are being billed, that’s not what ER staff does. Any hospital not in Mayberry has an entire department dedicated to accounts receivable. Orderlies don’t write up an invoice like the fucking drain cleaner guy ffs. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
The only fool is you. People try educating you and your MAGA friends and nobody can. It's impossible. You think in red in other words BULLSHIT lies from your corrupt president and his Nazi party and you won't open the door to someone telling you the truth.

No imaginary friend, FACT.

Good luck with fake news. I now see what your hero corrupt president was talking about when he said about fake news. Only thing is, your party is the one that's spreading it.
And yet you all conveniently ignore the fact that until the middle of 2020 when lockdowns were starting to be enforced, that covid was fake and wasn't even infecting people in the country.


No shit tens of thousands of people died that shouldn't had died, because your cult leader declared it was just as bad as the flu. The USA's response to covid was the worst out of any developed country, because their head of state denied that the virus existed in the first place. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
It's all so stunning, how stupid these people are. Covid was a "hoax" that didn't exist until it did. Just ask Herman Cain, oh wait...
The only fool is you. People try educating you and your MAGA friends and nobody can. It's impossible. You think in red in other words BULLSHIT lies from your corrupt president and his Nazi party and you won't open the door to someone telling you the truth.

No imaginary friend, FACT.

Good luck with fake news. I now see what your hero corrupt president was talking about when he said about fake news. Only thing is, your party is the one that's spreading it. Originally Posted by maint729
This is why there's no longer room for cordial, intelligent discourse with these people. The time for that was 2017-2020. It was literally a life or death proposition in those days, and they still voted him back in after an attempted coup. 2024-present is the time for "eat shit and die, you delusional traitor".
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The only fool is you. People try educating you and your MAGA friends and nobody can. It's impossible. You think in red in other words BULLSHIT lies from your corrupt president and his Nazi party and you won't open the door to someone telling you the truth.

No imaginary friend, FACT.

Good luck with fake news. I now see what your hero corrupt president was talking about when he said about fake news. Only thing is, your party is the one that's spreading it. Originally Posted by maint729
Just so we’re clear here, you’re denying facts that were stated by myself and reiterated in the very article you linked to, not even convinced when the relevant paragraph from said article is copy/pasted into the thread, then fly off on a tangent about how people won’t listen to the truth.

SMFH
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We know Originally Posted by HDGristle
The nasal spray thing is sage advice, my friend, from an actual doctor, that I pass along through the goodness of my heart. Read the articles, question why it wasn’t widespread practice during the pandemic, and lay in a few bottles for next go around.
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I know doctors who disagree. That's why we don't come to ECCIE for medical advice... from mongers. First-hand or passed down from your doctor

Or listen to Trump.