Fuck ICE

Stop and ask yourself, what is "illegal immigrant"? That requires criminality by the person.

It is generally not accurate to qualify the people as "illegal". Generally, they have not committed a criminal offense. Overstaying a visa is NOT criminal, it is civil infraction, equivalent to a lawsuit under the law. Being granted entry and a work permit while awaiting an asylum claim is not even close to criminal, such as the 300,000 Venezuelans that have suddenly had their status revoked.

Migrant farm workers are generally not criminal aliens either.


In the actual rare cases of being caught crossing the border at some place other than a point of entry, that is generally a misdemeanor.


So that leaves you with aliens that either are operating as criminals in organized crime, and aliens that have committed crimes - which is usually the common stuff of the impoverished - Domestic, Drugs, Burglary, and DUI, and then homicides. Crime statistics show that the undocumented population commit these crimes in FAR lower number than US Citizens.

And then you have human trafficking, which falls into both labor and forced sex work. ICE and HSI actually did pick up primary responsibility for investigating this criminal activity. It's really too bad they have to divert focus from this particular modern day slavery.

So anyway, fuck ICE. They have shifting into terrorizing communities and neighborhoods as a whole for political purposes AT THE DIRECTION of politicians in conflict with their congressional authorized duties and responsibilities. Originally Posted by Black Sedan

Imagine using this logic when law enforcement violates your Rights:

Search your person without probable cause: NOT a crime, civil infraction.
Walk into your house without a warrant: NOT a crime, civil infraction.
Search your car without probable cause: NOT a crime, civil infraction.
Cops tells your wife or girlfriend about your recent AMP visit: : NOT a crime, civil infraction.
Cop randomly stops you on the street and demands ID: : NOT a crime, civil infraction.
Cop hands you a ticket then holds you for a K-9 to sniff your car: : NOT a crime, civil infraction.

You know what else wasn't criminal? Alex Jones lying about Sandy Hook and tormenting all those parents.

Maybe we should just outlaw civil tort claims. I mean, they're not criminal after all.

I seriously have to wonder how some people can even tie their own shoes.

What place was raided Originally Posted by Sirjohnlennon

Too many, AFAIK places in mid cities/plano/frisco/garland have all been hit, many of which have been reviewed on this board before. It's why you don't see much reviews any more, no one wants their favorite place to be targeted next or be caught up in an ICE raid. Fuck ICE.

• Yes, crossing the U.S. border without authorization is a criminal offense under federal law, specifically 8 U.S. Code § 1325, known as "Improper Entry by Alien". This applies to individuals who enter between ports of entry or who enter by making false statements. Penalties for a first offense include a fine, up to six months in jail, or both, while subsequent offenses can lead to a prison sentence of up to two years

For all you idiots out there like Don Lemon who think crossing the border isn't a crime...


If they aren't running or don't have to hide, they should be fine...otherwise...time to leave...sorry your baby batter container is getting deported...

Yes, tell your representatives that you’re being denied illegal pussy and you’re mad about it. Go jack off and let it cool down. You’ll be ok. Jesus what a bunch of fucking whiners.

At issue is the open border allowed many to seek "asylum" which when case is granted and work card/social security number issued, becomes a judicial branch decision, hence Habeas corpus applies. Once that asylum hearing is granted, and annual check in complied, the should be no ICE interference. Moving another 600 JAG lawyers over to become immigration judges will help but still more than 5 year wait for hearings.

Are you that retarded or just being a troll? All the people you mentioned are here legally and became US citizen. Stop calling everything you don't agree with as Nazi. Originally Posted by johndoe663

Are you even graduate from high school or what?
Did you know Elon overstated his visa it's a known facts and even Elon mentioned in one of his old interviews, that mean somewhere he lied in his naturalization form which makes him illegal, because that's what exactly fucking ground they used to deport many people.
The same way there was documents where it was proved when Melania came to the US on modelling visa of course everyone knew what kind of modeling she used to do, irrespective of that, she also overstayed her visa.
Marco Rubio though born here his parents were illegals and that low life from Cuba calling others illegals didn't have guts to check his own parents status?
So before you call others retarded get some education yourself.

Are you even graduate from high school or what?
Did you know Elon overstated his visa it's a known facts and even Elon mentioned in one of his old interviews, that mean somewhere he lied in his naturalization form which makes him illegal, because that's what exactly fucking ground they used to deport many people.
The same way there was documents where it was proved when Melania came to the US on modelling visa of course everyone knew what kind of modeling she used to do, irrespective of that, she also overstayed her visa.
Marco Rubio though born here his parents were illegals and that low life from Cuba calling others illegals didn't have guts to check his own parents status?
So before you call others retarded get some education yourself. Originally Posted by prince_c3

I might not be a well educated person, still better those brainwashed by media and keep repeating talking points from what they've heard. Illegal aliens are not criminal, what a joke. Just STFU and stop talking politic on a hooker board.

I might not be a well educated person, still better those brainwashed by media and keep repeating talking points from what they've heard. Illegal aliens are not criminal, what a joke. Just STFU and stop talking politic on a hooker board. Originally Posted by johndoe663

Honestly, this. Still trying to shove your politics, whatever dude you may be on, into our hobby.

Are you even graduate from high school or what?
Did you know Elon overstated his visa it's a known facts and even Elon mentioned in one of his old interviews, that mean somewhere he lied in his naturalization form which makes him illegal, because that's what exactly fucking ground they used to deport many people.
The same way there was documents where it was proved when Melania came to the US on modelling visa of course everyone knew what kind of modeling she used to do, irrespective of that, she also overstayed her visa.
Marco Rubio though born here his parents were illegals and that low life from Cuba calling others illegals didn't have guts to check his own parents status?
So before you call others retarded get some education yourself. Originally Posted by prince_c3

Ah yes... The Pedantic nonsense of a hypocrite. Remember this next time you go into an AMP and commit multiple felonies.

ICE is a criminal organization
They will be brought down Originally Posted by cbs200

Hahaha

A government agency is a criminal organization. Sounds like Portland.

Can we agree on anything anymore? How's about this:

Can we at least agree that the prioritization of working women at spas (or, for that matter, landscape & construction workers) over rounding up and deporting illegal aliens who are drug smugglers, cartel members, and violent criminals is not only wasteful of resources but it fails to make us materially safer?

FWIW and to add a small bit of light to the debate, a person who is here without a visa is not NECESSARILY here illegally IF that person presented himself or herself at a recognized port of entry seeking asylum - doing so is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with federal immigration law as it stands right now. Regardless of whether or not that asylum request is ultimately "legitimate" - which requires a judicial determination - that does not make you an "illegal." It means you are as yet "undocumented."

Now, if you've overstayed or violated your visa, or skipped your asylum hearing(s), that is an entirely different kettle of fish - ILLEGAL. The question is whether you choose, as a matter of policy, to prioritize deporting these people, many of whom pay taxes and do not use social services near as much as Americans.

Ah yes... The Pedantic nonsense of a hypocrite. Remember this next time you go into an AMP and commit multiple felonies. Originally Posted by Bravado123

It can hardly be called pedantic when everything that he stated is factually correct. This country has massively benefited from immigrants (some of the most famous coming illegally as prince_c3 pointed out), so all this immigrant hate seems excessive. Should we deport the second term Biden era illegals? Most probably as a country's systems was not made to withstand the amount of people that Biden brought with his open border policy, but leave the pre-Biden illegals alone, especially when those people are otherwise law-abiding and tax-paying, there are other violent criminals that ICE could be targeting instead. Also the whole point of this thread was that our government's policies and laws are massively broken and need to be fixed. Deep down inside you must agree on some fundamental level, or else you also wouldn't be going to AMPs yourself and breaking the law.

Can we agree on anything anymore? How's about this:

Can we at least agree that the prioritization of working women at spas (or, for that matter, landscape & construction workers) over rounding up and deporting illegal aliens who are drug smugglers, cartel members, and violent criminals is not only wasteful of resources but it fails to make us materially safer?

FWIW and to add a small bit of light to the debate, a person who is here without a visa is not NECESSARILY here illegally IF that person presented himself or herself at a recognized port of entry seeking asylum - doing so is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with federal immigration law as it stands right now. Regardless of whether or not that asylum request is ultimately "legitimate" - which requires a judicial determination - that does not make you an "illegal." It means you are as yet "undocumented."

Now, if you've overstayed or violated your visa, or skipped your asylum hearing(s), that is an entirely different kettle of fish - ILLEGAL. The question is whether you choose, as a matter of policy, to prioritize deporting these people, many of whom pay taxes and do not use social services near as much as Americans. Originally Posted by Soccerjunky

Amen, couldn't have said it better myself brother.

When did this place turn to reddit/@?@?

Can we agree on anything anymore? How's about this:

Can we at least agree that the prioritization of working women at spas (or, for that matter, landscape & construction workers) over rounding up and deporting illegal aliens who are drug smugglers, cartel members, and violent criminals is not only wasteful of resources but it fails to make us materially safer? Originally Posted by Soccerjunky

I don't think anyone disagrees with this. However, there are far more ICE agents than there are criminals who fit into the "really really bad guy" demographic, therefore the rest of them are tasked with the lower hanging fruit. Your argument is on par with logical fallacies, like bitching at a traffic cop asking them don't they have real criminals to deal with. It's not like all the bad guys live in the same place, and once you capture most of them, you don't just tell agents to take a desk job.

FWIW and to add a small bit of light to the debate, a person who is here without a visa is not NECESSARILY here illegally IF that person presented himself or herself at a recognized port of entry seeking asylum - doing so is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with federal immigration law as it stands right now. Regardless of whether or not that asylum request is ultimately "legitimate" - which requires a judicial determination - that does not make you an "illegal." It means you are as yet "undocumented." Originally Posted by Soccerjunky

Yes, and you're conveniently leaving out the part where the asylum seeker has no right to be roaming the country while their trial date is pending. The government has the lawful authority to detain them in housing until such a date. So while these people are obviously trying to game the system, the governments deterrent is to dare them to run the clock out while sitting in a federal facility, or simply go home.

It's trade war - they refuse to buy our soybeans, we refuse to let their pussies come in.


I bet chinese pussies will now add tariff fees, making it more expensive than ever.