New without references, how do I get them?

Where did Ken go?

Now that would be funny. Originally Posted by pyramider

Indeed it would be. However I don't think anyone is that stupid and that is not my real name.

Thank you for your concern, and I again ask what am I supposed to read, there was no sticky newbie thread that I saw and I am not going to look through 50 pages of forum posts.

Lol!

Indeed it would be. However I don't think anyone is that stupid and that is not my real name.

Thank you for your concern, and I again ask what am I supposed to read, there was no sticky newbie thread that I saw and I am not going to look through 50 pages of forum posts. Originally Posted by KenMonk

Ken feel free to PM me if you need help with anything!

This thread shows that some providers have alternative ways of screening, and some don't screen or make their own judgments without screening. Many (but not all) will accept verifiable employment information. You may also find your own alternate ways. For example, I've seen several women just by knowing someone that they know. There may be other hobbyists (or even a board owner or moderator) that you know and that the woman you are seeking also knows. Or just ask a hobbyist you know to recommend a woman he knows and to vouch for you. This won't work if you don't know any other hobbyists and can't (or don't want to) meet them. Be creative, and something should work. Also, many agencies don't screen as carefully, if at all, and often the agencies have some really attractive women who give good service. The independents often do not take referrals from the agencies or their girls, but you can still have a good time. For the independents, the easiest thing is probably a service like p411, if you are willing to register and to find some newbie friendly providers to get some references.

This thread shows that some providers have alternative ways of screening, and some don't screen or make their own judgments without screening. Many (but not all) will accept verifiable employment information. You may also find your own alternate ways. For example, I've seen several women just by knowing someone that they know. There may be other hobbyists (or even a board owner or moderator) that you know and that the woman you are seeking also knows. Or just ask a hobbyist you know to recommend a woman he knows and to vouch for you. This won't work if you don't know any other hobbyists and can't (or don't want to) meet them. Be creative, and something should work. Also, many agencies don't screen as carefully, if at all, and often the agencies have some really attractive women who give good service. The independents often do not take referrals from the agencies or their girls, but you can still have a good time. For the independents, the easiest thing is probably a service like p411, if you are willing to register and to find some newbie friendly providers to get some references. Originally Posted by Skipp

Good Intel Skipp!

Yes great information! I don't know hobbyist so the vouch thing is out. I will just rely on p411 and go from there. Thank you for the help, and thank you Still Looking for the offer. I have decided to just take it slow and whatever happens happens. I'm not gonna sweat it too much.

Yes great information! I don't know hobbyist so the vouch thing is out. I will just rely on p411 and go from there. Thank you for the help, and thank you Still Looking for the offer. I have decided to just take it slow and whatever happens happens. I'm not gonna sweat it too much. Originally Posted by KenMonk

KenMonk, Good luck. I'm sure you'll do fine. And thanks to you and Still Looking for the comments.

Here's one other thought, KenMonk. Over the years, several massage therapists have put me in touch with one of their friends who is a provider. This removes any need for screening and usually results in good FS sessions UTR. So keep that in mind, because sometimes you might see a massage therapist enough that, although she does not do FS with customers, she will know a friend and will want to help both you and the friend out. I can think of at least two massage therapists that then did FS with me after I had been seeing her friend. Just be "creative" in figuring out how to get opportunities. And if you see a massage therapist regularly and become friends, you might even end up with regular "exclusive" FS sessions with her for no extra charge. That's happened for me a few times. You can keep alert for these types of possibilities IN ADDITION to p411 or similar approaches.

Here's one other thought, KenMonk. Over the years, several massage therapists have put me in touch with one of their friends who is a provider. This removes any need for screening and usually results in good FS sessions UTR. So keep that in mind, because sometimes you might see a massage therapist enough that, although she does not do FS with customers, she will know a friend and will want to help both you and the friend out. I can think of at least two massage therapists that then did FS with me after I had been seeing her friend. Just be "creative" in figuring out how to get opportunities. And if you see a massage therapist regularly and become friends, you might even end up with regular "exclusive" FS sessions with her for no extra charge. That's happened for me a few times. You can keep alert for these types of possibilities IN ADDITION to p411 or similar approaches. Originally Posted by Skipp

Interesting spin Skipp! I like it! Newbs take note!

I've never even gotten a massage. I just don't think you realize how new I am to this lol.

I've never even gotten a massage. I just don't think you realize how new I am to this lol. Originally Posted by KenMonk

Just jump in, the waters fine!