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Hmmm, perhaps they were attempting to teleport it to Area 51 and the technology needed work.

WW, why the hard on for Bush? You sound like I ran over your dog. Sheesh, get a life.

BTW; Bush didn't lie regarding WMDs in Iraq. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

My step-brother was in Air Force security at this time, one of my cousins was high up in the chain of command at the Pentagon at this time, her husband was associated with black ops at this time, when I asked them about the WMDs in Iraq they just laughed at me and said "we found oil".

Big Louie, there is hope for you yet!

One story that a lot of people are avoiding is the story about how many Saudi's that Bush helped get out of the country immediately after 9/11, people that were later tied to the event. Not hard to find if you search. If Obama or Clint had done something like that we would have never heard the end of it from people like Whirley and COG but because it was Bush it gets totally avoided.

Big Louie, you underestimate me. I thought that was an outrage, and said so at the time. The Bush family was practically a wholly owned subsidiary of Saudi Arabia. I would say that Bush lied, but that seems to get people upset.

Let me take a break from our delightful ribbing banter to ask you a serious question. And I am being serious, for a change. Since you are one of those who are certain that the Bush administration was one of the worst in history, as am I, and believe that he lied about WMD's and many other things, why do you take his word on what was arguably the biggest event of our lifetime, as if it were Gospel Truth? You don't have to believe that he destroyed the buildings in a false flag attack to believe that there is missing information. Even the chairs of the commission were unsatisfied with their findings. So why the blind support for President Bush?

Just asking. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

It is not blind support for Bush. It is looking at the whole picture.

You are acting exactly like the folks who still think there were WMD's even after the fact. You can not prove they were not there. All you can do is look at it reasonable and say that we did not find them and with the facts we have it damn sure appears they were never there. Just like Building 7, you can not prove that Bush had nothing to do with it but the facts as we know sure does not point in that direction.

For the record , I do not think Bush lied. I do think they thought they were there and based on that false assumption turned a blind eye towards anything to the contrary. Exactly wtf you are doing now with this Building 7 crap.

There is this thing that our brain does after the fact. People think they know wtf they would have done because they now know more facts. Same thing with Joe Paterno. If you are not aware of this brain hiccup , you then proceed to think you know what you would have done in their shoes. The fact is they did not have the same information as you do with hindsight. I could research the the book on it but you wouldn't read it if I did.

I will say that even though I do not think he lied, I think there should be a much better vetting process before we march off to war. In that regard, he failed in my book. I was aganist the war at the time but I was not the President. We elect who we elect and then live with it.

Time Line of Building 7 Collapse:

And COG would now say: The buildng collapsed on it's own footprint, therefore, it was a controlled demoliton , orchestrated by (Bush, CIA, Silverstien and the NYPD, pick your boogey man, afterall Bush lied !) . Originally Posted by Whirlaway

if building 7 fell sideways, which burning buildings with obvious structural damage don't do, would you be happy, COG? here's some help for you ..

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/1227842

let me ask you a question on behalf of Sir Issac Newton .. in what general direction relative to vertical does gravity usually force an object to fall?

Hint - STRAIGHT DOWN. got it?

please explain exactly how Popular Mechanics has any vested interest in anything other than an unbiased examination of the evidence.

you are as bad as those two twits pushing that crappy stuff about 9/11 and you with all that vast intellygance and edumaction and all, really i expected better of you COG.

Hmmm, perhaps they were attempting to teleport it to Area 51 and the technology needed work. Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

LOL as long as we're not talking OU v UT i'm with ya on this one Randy.

For Christ's sake, WTF! Really? Still going on about Joe Paterno?! Give it up, man! Let the poor guy rest! Here, I'll make it easier for you. I will change yet another opinion. My official stand is now that Joe Paterno was a wonderful man, a credit to his profession and an inspiration to us all. May he rest in peace! Now STFU about Paterno already.

Wacko, it is obvious that you haven't read what I posted. Until then, I choose not to respond to your distortions and misquotes. Find something better to do if you aren't even going to try to respond with some intelligence. I have no problem with Popular Mechanics view of the Twin Towers, but all they did on Building 7 was a regurgitation of the Department of Commerce (Commerce? Really?) report which is essentially useless. But a nice try. Next time try to respond to what I have said, instead of making stuff up. You people are getting boring.

Wacko, it is obvious that you haven't read what I posted.

That's Mr. Wacko to you.

You people are getting boring. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

does that mean you'll go away?

we found oil Originally Posted by BigLouie

and if anybody believes our invasion of afghanistan and irag had anything to do with anything other than oil...you're a fucking moron. the neocons and oil companies had laid out maps of the irag oil fields years before the war and the oil companies were slobbering all over themselves waiting to get at it. same with afghanistan. the bush admin was negotiating with...you guessed it, the taliban and flat out told them 'you can have a carpet of gold, or a carpet of bombs'. when the taliban chose a brazilian oil company to build the pipeline to get the landlocked oil from the caspian sea basin to karachi, their fate was sealed.

and saddam hussein's fate was sealed when he decided to trade his country's oil in euros instead of US dollars. and the US 'allowed' his execution to keep him from trial, where he may have disclosed the many secrets the US govt didn't want to be disclosed.

never been a dictator the US govt didn't like as long as they helped our 'national interest'. hell the US govt helped depose the ruling monarchy of the independent island nation of hawaii at the behest of US corporations. geez just look at some of the brutal dictators we support all over the world. and gerald ford and henry kissinger gave tacit approval to what the suharto regime in indonesia did to east timor... that should make all americans ashamed of what their govt did in our good name. and the beat goes on. and that was all about oil too. the east timor straight is full of oil and natural gas.

why has the US govt and CIA been trying to get rid of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela? Maybe because Venezuela has the 4th largest known oil reserves in the world and the US gets more oil from that country than even Saudia Arabia. maybe just a coincidence. but maybe because Chavez had tried to increase taxes on oil companies to distribute the money to peasants so they can own their own land. oil corporations don't like that kind of shit. fucks up their profit margins.

and let's not forget the CIA's assasination of Salvador Allende, giving rise to the murderous and corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet in Chile.

and biglouie is right...daddy bush was in a meeting with the bin laden famlly on 9/11..and they were allowed to fly out of the country while air space was locked down for everybody else. and the bush family had billions of business interests with them. the FBI was furious that they were not allowed to interview members of the family.

and have you heard of the Five Dancing Israeli's ?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...eisraelis.html

there is way more here than the grassy knoll.

and if anybody believes our invasion of afghanistan and irag had anything to do with anything other than oil...you're a fucking moron. the neocons and oil companies had laid out maps of the irag oil fields years before the war and the oil companies were slobbering all over themselves waiting to get at it. same with afghanistan. the bush admin was negotiating with...you guessed it, the taliban and flat out told them 'you can have a carpet of gold, or a carpet of bombs'. when the taliban chose a brazilian oil company to build the pipeline to get the landlocked oil from the caspian sea basin to karachi, their fate was sealed.

and saddam hussein's fate was sealed when he decided to trade his country's oil in euros instead of US dollars. and the US 'allowed' his execution to keep him from trial, where he may have disclosed the many secrets the US govt didn't want to be disclosed.

never been a dictator the US govt didn't like as long as they helped our 'national interest'. hell the US govt helped depose the ruling monarchy of the independent island nation of hawaii at the behest of US corporations. geez just look at some of the brutal dictators we support all over the world. and gerald ford and henry kissinger gave tacit approval to what the suharto regime in indonesia did to east timor... that should make all americans ashamed of what their govt did in our good name. and the beat goes on. and that was all about oil too. the east timor straight is full of oil and natural gas.

why has the US govt and CIA been trying to get rid of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela? Maybe because Venezuela has the 4th largest known oil reserves in the world and the US gets more oil from that country than even Saudia Arabia. maybe just a coincidence. but maybe because Chavez had tried to increase taxes on oil companies to distribute the money to peasants so they can own their own land. oil corporations don't like that kind of shit. fucks up their profit margins.

and let's not forget the CIA's assasination of Salvador Allende, giving rise to the murderous and corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet in Chile.

and biglouie is right...daddy bush was in a meeting with the bin laden famlly on 9/11..and they were allowed to fly out of the country while air space was locked down for everybody else. and the bush family had billions of business interests with them. the FBI was furious that they were not allowed to interview members of the family.

and have you heard of the Five Dancing Israeli's ?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...eisraelis.html

there is way more here than the grassy knoll.


Originally Posted by Juan Pablo de Marco

We did not get a drop. You are a liar or a idiot.

We did not get a drop. You are a liar or a idiot. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Sorry but it has long been known that there was a government position paper long before the Iraq wars that said the US should get their hands on the Iraq oil fields through any means possible. It is really not a big secret.

yep it was about Oil. Black Gold. Texas Tea.