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Can I answer those questions? Sure ...so could anyone else with an Internet connection. I'm a research analyst, not a microbiologist or scientist. Direct your questions to the thousands of doctors, PHDs, virologists, biological researchers and scientists worldwide whose dissenting voices against the unproven HIV/AIDS theory are hidden from the public.

Your claims would hold more weight if you did not exaggerate yourself. Yes, every profession has its kooks and whackos. But the claim that "thousands" experts are HIV/AIDS deniers is beyond ludicrous.

You're asking the wrong questions though.

Ask yourself why, in all of western medical history, why was normal protocol broken and HIV announced at a press conference rather than through peer reviewed channels.

What makes you think "normal protocol" was broken? In the 1950's scientists triumphantly announced in a press conference that we had won the war against infection with the advent of vaccines and anti-biotics. In hindsight of course, it was a bit premature to be doing an end zone dance. Despite that, your misguided belief that there is a 'normal protocol' is ridiculous. Do you recall the mass media coverage of SARS, Avian Bird Flu, and and the discovery of the H1N1 virus? Announcements to the public are routine protocol regarding public health issues.

Ask why thousands of people who have tested positive are still living and healthy 20-25 years later, while those who took the AZT and antiretroviral cocktails died a short while afterwards.

Charlie covered this one nicely. The overwhelming majority of those living long term with HIV are those who are on a cocktail of antiretrovirals.

Ask why Robert Gallo (press conference announcement) stole the work of another HIV researcher and was charged with fraud for changing the data to fit his agenda.

One rogue scientist does not a conspiracy make.

Ask why there are no specific or reliable tests to detect HIV.

There is no need to ask this question since the premise is false. HIV tests today are very sensitive, and extremely accurate. The first HIV tests developed were somewhat unreliable, which is why confirmation testing was always recommended. Even today, with the vastly improved testing available, confirmation testing remains standard to ensure a correct diagnosis.

Ask why Luc Montier, the original discoverer of the HIV virus, said from the beginning that his lab didn't find anything significant and who also now says that HIV can be cleared from the body simply by changing your diet to improve your immune system.

There is no cure of HIV, nor is there ever likely to be one. A special diet is not going to clear a virus from your system. Not for HIV or any other virus. Either the body is capable of fighting off the virus itself, or not. Eating some magical foods will not change that. Again, before I buy your premise, I would like to hear what Montier said in his own words. Because god knows, quotes never get truncated or cherry picked.

Ask why the CDC announced it no longer considers HIV a threat to society.

Link please.

Ask why courts, when challenged on the science behind HIV, are quietly dropping and reversing charges against people charged with HIV crimes.

A man was successfully prosecuted in Lawrence just last year for intentionally spreading the HIV virus. It is true that prosecutors are reluctant to bring charges in cases of intentional infection, but that has more to do with the legal quagmire such cases create, and nothing at all to do with doubts about the veracity of the science involved.

And in light of all the evidence revealing that HIV=AIDS is a fraud, ask yourself just what the hell are you defending ...your right to stick your head in the sand?

No, people like you contribute to the problem. Ignorance and denial are fertile ground for the virus to continue spreading.

FYI, medical schools are created, financed and controlled by the pharmaceutical cartel. Doctors get their "knowledge" about HIV from pharmaceutical salesmen, medical literature, the CDC, the AMA, and scientific journals, which are all biased, manipulated and controlled by Big Pharma's partners.

Again, more conspiracy theory nutjobbery. Clearly, not only are you not an epidemiologist, pathologist, microbiologist, or any other -ologist, you are also not involved in any aspect of the health care system. Nor have you ever taken even a college level biology class. If you really want to understand the things you are talking about, enroll in a biology class, and upon completion, take a class in microbiology. Then you will at least be equipped to objectively evaluate the drivel you are preaching.

Incidentally, information available to physicians and the public from the various mainstream sources all comes with a disclaimer, that is, the information is not to be taken literally - and they always refer you back to a physician for interpretation of their claims (back to physicians who first got the data from them).

So does every single medication on the market. Even baby aspirin comes with warnings. You can thank the ambulance chasers for that.

Talk about passing the buck - what a scam.


...back to you Dr. Flesh


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Ask yourself why, in all of western medical history, why was normal protocol broken and HIV announced at a press conference rather than through peer reviewed channels. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

You make it sound like nothing of import was ever announced at a press conference. There have been hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed studies and the evidence that HIV causes AIDS is overwhelming and incontrovertible. And in any event, you are wrong. The research was in the publishing process. It had been peer reviewed. Reagan's HHS Secretary Margaret Heckler claimed the announcement was made because of the "urgency to identify the agent causing AIDS." (Seth C. Kalichman, "Denying AIDS", 2009). At that same press conference, she also suggested that a cure was two years away. People make mistakes.

Ask why thousands of people who have tested positive are still living and healthy 20-25 years later, while those who took the AZT and antiretroviral cocktails died a short while afterwards. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

Tell that to Ken Anderlini, Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, Sophie Brassard, Maria Papagiannidou, Ronnie Burk, Boyd Graves, Sandi Lenfestey, Jack Levine, Peter Mokaba, Karri Stokely, and Christine Maggiore and her two-year-old daughter Eliza-Jane Scovill. All of them denied that HIV causes AIDS (except Eliza-Jane, who couldn't deny anything). All of them died of AIDS.

Some people do live a long time with AIDS, even without taking any medicine. They are referred to as "long-term non-progressors." Comedian Mike diStefano was one such person. He died last year of a heart attack. So what? People have all kinds of different reactions to disease. Some people die from cancer. Some people live well past the time their doctors gave them.

Ask why Robert Gallo (press conference announcement) stole the work of another HIV researcher and was charged with fraud for changing the data to fit his agenda. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

That is nothing but obfuscation. In a process as complex and interconnected as international medical research, you can find lots of instances of procedural mistakes. That's why we have peer review. One man's fraud (if it even is fraud) does not invalidate the work of hundreds of thousands of other researchers. And, the scientist from whom Gallo supposedly stole the research (see below) asked that Gallo be included in the 2008 Nobel Prize for the discovery. They even co-wrote an article in Nature explaining the timeline and praising each others' work.

Ask why there are no specific or reliable tests to detect HIV. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

"Diagnosis of infection using antibody testing is one of the best established concepts in medicine. Examples include the diagnosis of viral hepatitis, rubella, and many other infectious diseases. Antibody testing for these diseases has never been questioned. HIV antibody tests exceed the performance of most other infectious disease tests in both sensitivity and specificity. Recent HIV antibody tests have sensitivity and specificity in excess of 98% and are therefore extremely reliable." (Canadian AIDS Society, "HIV Causes Aids", May, 2001)

Ask why Luc Montier, the original discoverer of the HIV virus, said from the beginning that his lab didn't find anything significant and who also now says that HIV can be cleared from the body simply by changing your diet to improve your immune system. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

His name was Luc Montagnier, not Montier. Montagnier shared the Nobel Prize in 2008 for his work in identifying HIV.

Montagnier never denied that HIV causes AIDS. This was exposed as a lie perpetrated by filmmaker Brent Leung. You can read the transcript here. And his Nobel acceptance speech makes it totally clear that he believes this to be true.

Ask why the CDC announced it no longer considers HIV a threat to society. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

You'll have to back up that claim, because it seems ridiculous. But I would totally understand them saying that it was a manageable threat, because the drugs to control HIV work so well. And because in countries where HIV testing is done regularly, the AIDS epidemic has slowed or stopped. Meanwhile in Africa and Asia, where HIV/AIDS denial is still widespread, the disease is spreading just as fast as ever.

Read that again: Where HIV testing is in effect, AIDS does not spread. That one fact is pretty incontrovertible. If HIV does not cause AIDS, why is it that when we inform people about the risks of HIV and we use medicines to lower viral loads in already infected people, the spread of AIDS stops?

Ask why courts, when challenged on the science behind HIV, are quietly dropping and reversing charges against people charged with HIV crimes. Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

You are claiming that the courts are upholding decisions based on evidence that HIV does not cause AIDS? I thought your argument was that the government is covering up the HIV/AIDS connection because it wants to support Big Pharma? Why would the courts drop or reverse charges when, as you claim, the government wants this to be the accepted truth?

Look, every one of your claims can be shown to be false or irrelevant. There are always going to be people who believe in fringe theories. Some people think homeopathy is real. Some people think vaccines cause autism. People believe in candling, rolfing, iridology, facilitated communication, and zenreiki. It's all bullshit.

Haha, Sins. We posted within two minutes of each other.

Again, HIV tests (Elisa, Western Blot and PCR ) all have disclaimers in their kit inserts which state:

1) “At present there is no recognized standard for establishing the presence or absence of antibodies to HIV-1 and HIV-2 in human blood” (Elisa test, billed as a specific antibody test)

2) “Do not use this kit as the sole basis of diagnosis of HIV infection” (Western Blot test, presumed to be a “confirmatory test”).

3) “This test is not intended to be used as a screening test for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV infection” (PCR or “viral load” test, a test which the patient’s life depends on as it is used to decide when to start taking highly toxic and often deadly antiretroviral drugs and to “screen” the immune response to the virus and therapy).


Thus, on this single point alone, if there are no reliable tests for HIV, how is one to know that anyone is positive?

Whereas HIV tests look for a positive antibody response (not an HIV virus), the presence of antibodies simply means your immune system is intact. Other well-known virus and diseases are identified via direct observation and symptoms. HIV is the only so-called infection whereby a positive antibody response equates to a negative result.

This issue becomes even more troubling when you consider that an HIV-positive response can be triggered by pregnancy, vaccination, malnutrition, M.S., measles, influenza, papilloma virus wart, Epstein Barr virus, leprosy, glandular fever, hepatitis, syphillis and over sixty other different conditions.


I'm at work right now so I don't have sufficient time to address all the other points ...I will as opportunity allows.

Bill

P.S. - For those who are interested, here are 2 good starting points to help you shed the mass psychological programming of HIV=AIDS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCKb1JV-4A
http://www.whale.to/c/willner_deadly_deception.html

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This is great information. I've never been tested, but for $30 it's something I should get done soon. Just curious about discretion! How do they notify you of the results? Originally Posted by love2fishfork

They have always asked me for my preferred contact information and if they could contact or leave a msg. there. However, if you have a serious STI as they are called now...they will track you down until they find you. Obviously because their job is disease prevention. One easy way to avoid this is to do what they ask you to do and call for your STD results...usually about a week later....however...they will be able to tell a lot on the spot as far as diseases outside of HIV. If they suspect that you have anything, they will treat you on the spot.

If you call for your results..which are done by an identification number and not a name, you would never have to worry about anyone contacting you. I have never receiveced any kind of correspondence because I call after x number of days as I am anxious for results. HIV conclusive results usually take about 10 days...then you have to go in person for confidentiality purposes to pick them up. I always do so I have a "date cleared card" not that anyone has ever wanted to see that but it is an important responsibility to me.

If you do not call for your results or go to pick them up and you DO have a communicable disease...they will find you by all means possible...even if that means showing up on your doorstep. It is their job to stop the transmission.

All you have to do is get tested for next to nothing and then follow up for your results.

Girls in the insustry (don't know about guys)...they encourage you to come in as much or often as you would like. I don't spill all beans to all employees but do ask to speak to the epidemiologist and discuss the business. They are very non-judgemental and I leave with grocery sacs full of condoms, lube, dental dams and female condoms....and they say come back anytime that you need more.

I understand some people's problem woth sharing that info with a dr of a public health agency, but reality is that you shouldn't waste your time with a dr. and not tell the truth...Medical, Psychological, etc. No one can help you when you aren't honest.

XoXo,

Arianna
velvetvixen@gmail.com
www.thevelvetvixen.com

Its like saying condoms are bad, or birth control pills are bad, because they do not stop unwanted pregnancies. Geez, Bill every human is wired a bit differently. Some have allergies, some don't. Some meds will knock me out, whereas a 95 lb woman can function normally on the same dosage.

Is this another conspiracy theory the tinfoil hat wearers are pimping? I would guess that would mean that Ronald Reagan is the father to this conspiracy. He probably had it created to get back at his son, too. Oh wow, I thinck I see a pattern.

Again, HIV tests (Elisa, Western Blot and PCR ) all have disclaimers in their kit inserts which state {snip}

Thus, on this single point alone, if there are no reliable tests for HIV, how is one to know that anyone is positive? Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

Using that argument, there are no reliable tests for ANY disease. But the newest HIV tests are as effective or better than tests for other diseases that no one is claiming are imaginary.

You quoted LEGAL DISCLAIMERS, not scientific results.

Is this another conspiracy theory the tinfoil hat wearers are pimping? I would guess that would mean that Ronald Reagan is the father to this conspiracy. He probably had it created to get back at his son, too. Oh wow, I thinck I see a pattern. Originally Posted by pyramider

In much of Africa and Asia, HIV/AIDS Denialism (HAD) is widespread and based on a lack of education or a belief in non-scientific medical practices (witchcraft or ancestral medicine). In the industrialized world, HAD does follow the traditional "conspiracy theory" pattern of refusal to accept evidence and a belief that "someone" is covering up "The Truth". Whether that "someone" is the Illuminati, the Government, Big Pharma, General Motors, or Shapeshifting Aliens from Alpha Centauri, the idea is the same.

For more information:
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/hivaids_denialism/
http://www.skepdic.com/aidsdenial.html
http://debunkingdenialism.com/catego...ids-denialism/
http://www.physics.smu.edu/pseudo/AIDS/
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/aids_d...m_vs._science/
http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths
(see http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#tests to get a preview of where the discussion will probably go next)
and hundreds more...

I wondered how long it would take Bill to show up here . . . read his posting history guys, IMHO, he isn't worth the effort of a reply (although it is appreciated, Stacy and Questor).

I just don't want to risk anyone falling for the flim-flammery that is denialism. I had a family member die of cancer after trusting in faith healers and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on trips to the Philippines for psychic surgery and prayer healing. I have friends who spend money on homeopathic medicine that is literally nothing but pure water or wax. Childhood measles, mumps, and rubella are making a comeback because people aren't immunizing their kids for fear of autism.

If even one person might start to believe that AIDS is not caused by a sexually transmitted virus and that taking medicine is useless in treating it, then he is worth the effort of a reply.

I applaud you for that Q, but it will drag on ad infinitum. I'm just sayin'.

Fact......one of the cures for HIV and AIDS in Africa is having sex with virgins. Fact......this includes babies.

It would be difficult to find a group more absorbed with dogma, consensus and group think than those who tenaciously cling to the well promoted theory that HIV causes AIDS ...while logic and common sense is tossed out the window.

FYI, the term denialism has no place in science ...it is the nature and responsibility of scientists to question and challenge theories ...yet when this normal process occurs in the realm of HIV/AIDS hypothesis, they are immediately marginalized as heretics ...stereotyped as deniers ...as if the great Holocausts of indigenous Americans, Russia or China had some parallel relationship to an illness.

I simply question the efficacy of HIV testing and wham ...the attention span of our esteemed posters falls through a worm hole ...from cancer and autism to space aliens and ad hominem attacks against me ...let's stay focused shall we? ...I see this is going to take a very long time ...until a mod comes along and shuts the "discussion" down.

If possible, reach down deep ...and see if you can find the requisite intellect and social etiquette to fully exhaust a point without deviating into personal assaults, illogic, or another dimension.

Now, point by point ...where was I? ...oh yeah, HIV tests ...and no, the tests still seek to find ordinary dead cell tissue in the body and pretend to establish a good reason for poisoning yourself.

Let's bring in Nobel Prize winner Kary Mullis ...the developer of the PCR test ...and hear what he has to say ...maybe he knows a shade more about the HIV/AIDS paradigm than you or myself.

Short video: http://www.youtube.com/v/IifgAvXU3ts...y=1&fs=1&rel=0

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I just don't want to risk anyone falling for the flim-flammery that is denialism. I had a family member die of cancer after trusting in faith healers and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on trips to the Philippines for psychic surgery and prayer healing. I have friends who spend money on homeopathic medicine that is literally nothing but pure water or wax. Childhood measles, mumps, and rubella are making a comeback because people aren't immunizing their kids for fear of autism.

If even one person might start to believe that AIDS is not caused by a sexually transmitted virus and that taking medicine is useless in treating it, then he is worth the effort of a reply. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

I am sorry for your loss. Sounds like your family member was not going down without a fight. Psychic surgery? What the hell is psychic surgery? I am sure its a form of quackery ...

Psychic surgery

She didn't want to believe the doctors that with treatments she could only expect to live 5 years. So she found a spiritualist who claimed that with prayer and a lot of money, he could heal her. He promised that he could use the power of faith to excise the tumors from her body. As far as I know she never actually had a psychic surgeon pretend to pull a tumor out of her body like Randi does in the clip above. But she did go to the Philippines so it is a possibility.