Chick-fil-A? yes, no, maybe

By the way even though it is privately held if it is a corporation they do have a board of directors. It might just be the two Cathy boys plus whoever owns the other third but most likely it is like 6 or more individuals. Originally Posted by homer13

You're right. It seems they have two board members: S Truett Cathey and S Tammy Pearson.

I think the media sensationalizes that gays force themselves out in the open or its the extreme left gays.

I have many gay friends, I have had next door gay neighbors, I am doing business now with a Lesbian Couples, and not once not ever has anyone every said, ' I am gay you must like me and give me rights', in business it never comes up, in personal life it never comes up.. when a client says " god says I should buy this house' or 'gods plan was for me not to buy this house'.. I dont say anything, ( although I find that a silly answer) all I am thinking is when I am going to cash the check...

so not sure where this comes from...and who are these gay 'cramming down' their beliefs on me??

not saying you are wrong Cody , I have never witnessed the like, unless it was staged Protest typically on the left coast, Originally Posted by RALPHEY BOY

Indeed I am referring specifically to the media and extreme groups which seem to be a very intrusive yet powerful force due to media support. They boycott, showcase and target anyone who does not believe in the gay lifestyle. The holier than thou extreme Christian right is just as bad I'll admit.

How is the idea of thousands of gay couples making out out in front of every Chic-fil-A outlet helping the cause?
Like yourself I have gay clients who behave no different than anyone else in as far as our business dealings go.
I have no problem with gays as individuals whatsoever. That doesn't mean I would want to spit up my food being forced to witness men making out on the other side of the window. Nor should one's children be subjected to it anymore than watching heterosexual couples swapping spit in front of them.
I still don't get the whole gay pride parade thing from a group that supposedly wants to blend and be viewed as equals. Marching down the street waving banners dressed in drag or grown men in short shorts doesn't give anyone the impression they are just like everyone else.

I never ever eat fast food period so I suppose in that sense I'm involuntarily banning them as well as McDonalds, Taco Hell, Burger King etc...

As far as their personal views. Aren't there more important issues to take up the cross for than a fast food chain owner's views on gay behavior.

The owners have just as much right to their views as gay supporters do.
I also don't necessarily agree with the perception that disagreeing with the gay lifestyle is tantamount to hate.

Victimizing gays or anyone else based upon their lifestyle or beliefs is indeed hateful but strongly disagreeing with the lifestyle is absolutely not hate. It is simply a disbelief in the lifestyle.
If one strongly disagrees with the philosophy and practice of Wica does that mean he hates all believers of the practice? Does an atheist hate all Christians or Muslims?

Of course I haven't followed the story so I don't know if he has indeed shown himself to be hateful through his actions or words. Someone said he has donated millions in support of anti gay equality. What exactly does that mean? Is he sending the money to support evangelists who merely preach against the lifestyle or is he funding skin head groups to go out and target gays?

Why is it that the minority gay lifestyle can be crammed down the straight majority's throats yet any opposing opinion or reaction to it is deemed hateful?
Gay equality also means gays behaving as equals. Gay pride parades, huge coming out productions and celebrity announcements doesn't sound equal to anything in the straight world I've seen. Originally Posted by Codybeast

Extremely well put (except for the hate on fast food places)

I think the media sensationalizes that gays force themselves out in the open or its the extreme left gays.

I have many gay friends, I have had next door gay neighbors, I am doing business now with a Lesbian Couples, and not once not ever has anyone every said, ' I am gay you must like me and give me rights', in business it never comes up, in personal life it never comes up.. when a client says " god says I should buy this house' or 'gods plan was for me not to buy this house'.. I dont say anything, ( although I find that a silly answer) all I am thinking is when I am going to cash the check...

so not sure where this comes from...and who are these gay 'cramming down' their beliefs on me??

not saying you are wrong Cody , I have never witnessed the like, unless it was staged Protest typically on the left coast, Originally Posted by RALPHEY BOY

I see your point and I don't think in small instances like this (one on one) it's gonna be shoved down your throat as much as say the religious sector who are trained to preach to everyone they see.

I'll give you a larger scale example. A pro athlete during an interview is asked a question and in his answer he mentions that he doesn't believe gays or transgenders should have the same rights as straight couples or maybe he says he doesn't have or associate with gay people. This athlete will be ostracized by the public and lose money in endorsements etc.. Now that same athlete let's say in his answer say's he supports the rights of gay's etc... he will be labeled a entirely different cat, he's well spoken blah blah blah where as before on the other side he was a close minded bonehead.

Both answers were within his rights yet one is more popular and politically correct and the other get's him publicly labeled in a negative light.

An even worse case scenario comes when an AA male athlete like Reggie White speaks out. The media and public say the most ignorant stuff in that instance. For example here is something said on a popular sports show

"how could a person who has been through or who's people has a history of struggle and bigotry show this level of the same". This statement is comparing someone who chooses to take it up the ass to a race that was forced to take it up the ass (metaphorically) for decades.

I'm sorry but being gay or transgender is a choice and they should not be a protected category. Some people are just creeped out by girly men who are more drama queen then any real chick. I've had some gay friends but that was because they weren't all over the top girly gay and we didn't talk about their gayness. That's not to say I wouldn't hire one if they were the best person for the job just that I wouldn't openly choose to associate with them.

One of the big problems in this country is polarization. We tend to see the choice as:

1) We want to any gay couple as exactly the same as a heterosexual married couple.

or

2) Beat all the gays up, then burn them at the stake.

We should all deplore those who want to stick their nose into other people's business and interfere with gay behaviour between consenting adults. Especially if they want to use violence, housing, job discrimination, etc.

That doesn't necessarily mean that we should grant job benefits to couples who aren't legally married. Or that the state should recognize same sex marriage.

I'm more in the camp of "do what the fuck ever you want but no make me join you" group. I say that about religion, political beliefs, gayness, sex and drugs. I don't care what you do but don't force it down my throat or try to talk me into your side. If you want another dudes cock up your ass, great for you just don't tell me I have to agree with it or give you special rights treatment or even have to look at it. I am disgusted by the idea of any kind of anal sex (man-woman or man-man) and am not comfy around drama queen gays so it's my choice to not associate so I shouldn't have to. They shouldn't be a protected group. What they do is a choice not a race. Religion (which I also don't think should be a protected group because they too are a choice) I feel the same way. don't knock on my door or come to my business. Believe what you want but leave me the fuck alone. I hate when they come to my business for donations. I tell them straight up I won't donate to anything political or religious.

Fuck them all

I would be highly suspect of someone who came on these boards and expressed how they were against gay marriage, I think their moral compass would be shit.

Clearly we tend to believe as a collective that acts aren't morally wrong if no one is harmed.

As far as I can tell the only real reason people are against gay marriage is ill contrived religious reasons. Problem is people that are 'religious' don't apply the same logic to other things said in the bible as they do to the specific case of homosexuality, so they really can't be taken seriously. Sad part is most of them aren't smart enough to realize their own inconsistencies.

Just vote with your wallet is really all there is to it. CEOs have the right to be bigots, so long is no one is harmed.

That's the country we live in.

The only gay person in my life I have a real problem with is this gorgeous lesbian I work with each week. She lives with and shares wedding rings with her female partner who isn't quite so hot.

To me she is the absolute perfect woman in physique, personality and intellect. Perfect for me anyway. (Yup I'm single again)

I really have to focus hard on business to avoid a woody when with her. I suspect she senses as much as she's always complimenting my looks most likely just to frustrate me.

She is clearly 100% committed to her partner. I look at her and think God what a total waste of prime woman lol.

I would be highly suspect of someone who came on these boards and expressed how they were against gay marriage, I think their moral compass would be shit.

Clearly we tend to believe as a collective that acts aren't morally wrong if no one is harmed.

As far as I can tell the only real reason people are against gay marriage is ill contrived religious reasons. Problem is people that are 'religious' don't apply the same logic to other things said in the bible as they do to the specific case of homosexuality, so they really can't be taken seriously. Sad part is most of them aren't smart enough to realize their own inconsistencies.

Just vote with your wallet is really all there is to it. CEOs have the right to be bigots, so long is no one is harmed.

That's the country we live in. Originally Posted by iplaypoker

I'm sorry but your statement is as close minded as you claim others to be. Anyone on here for one has no moral compass. This is a site for whores and johns, where's the morality in that. Second Religious people or the most hypocritical people in the world. They are all about telling you what you should and shouldn't do but push come to shove they fuck whores just like the rest and they get quite abortions. Christians are the weakest fucking people in the world. They can't believe that they just exist so they have to have a reason and purpose, then they have to convince everyone else because they don't want to be alone. And in a crisis they are the first to run from their own religion.

Anyone who is against gay marriage has no moral compass? that is a clue less statement since being gay goes against all forms off morality. Homosexuality goes against the bible yet their are gay priest (just look at all the fags fucking little boys) and gay people who claim to be religious. If their is a god and the bible is correct non of those fag's are going to heaven ( I guess unless they confess and denounce before they die) what a fucking loop hole that is. Why live a religious life when you can fuck, murder and steal and then ask to be saved on your death bed and go to heaven.

My point is being against gay marriage has nothing to do with anything other then your preference and everyone has a right to their own preference. In my perfect world I'd never have to associate with transgenders, gays, thugs, sicko's, hiv infected people, rapist, religious people, fat chicks, homeless people etc... but we don't live in a our perfect world so we just make do.

I personally struggle with this one because I am all about rights and do what you want and blah blah blah but then I'm creeped out by this and think fuck no they shouldn't get the same rights just because their gay. Then I think that's a bad way to think, you know your more open minded then that. Then I think about womens rights and minority rights and is this how it was for them struggling to get rights. Then I say being a homo is a choice not a group.......................

On and on it's a struggle.

In my perfect world I'd never have to associate with transgenders, gays, thugs, sicko's, hiv infected people, rapist, religious people, fat chicks, homeless people etc... but we don't live in a our perfect world so we just make do. Originally Posted by homer13

You might be opening Pandora's box with that one. I get not wanting to fuck them but lumping them in with the other undesirable categories and wishing you never had to associate with them simply because of their weight?

Oh boy where the hell is my popcorn popper? BTW thanks for nixing the clown face video. lol

You might be opening Pandora's box with that one. I get not wanting to fuck them but lumping them in with the other undesirable categories and wishing you never had to associate with them simply because of their weight?

Oh boy where the hell is my popcorn popper? BTW thanks for nixing the clown face video. lol Originally Posted by Codybeast

I threw religious people in there too. It was just a short list of the people I don't want to do stuff with on a daily basis. That's not to say I don't or haven't banged a chubbo in my time. Fuck I bang whoever I'm in the mood to drop a load on at that moment and sometimes believe it or not its a chubby chick (not fat, just can't get into real fat chicks no matter how much I never try)

I'm sorry but your statement is as close minded as you claim others to be. Anyone on here for one has no moral compass. This is a site for whores and johns, where's the morality in that. Originally Posted by homer13

I disagree, this depends vastly on your world view. I do not see immoral to have sex for money, no one is harmed. Of course everyone has their own moral system, and some just adopt whatever is popular. If you're not cheating on a GF/wife, how is it wrong to have sex with someone for money? It's mutually beneficial to both parties, and no one is harmed. Morally speaking, from my point of view, no wrong is done.

Second Religious people or the most hypocritical people in the world. They are all about telling you what you should and shouldn't do but push come to shove they fuck whores just like the rest and they get quite abortions. Christians are the weakest fucking people in the world. They can't believe that they just exist so they have to have a reason and purpose, then they have to convince everyone else because they don't want to be alone. And in a crisis they are the first to run from their own religion. Originally Posted by homer13

I agree, although I wouldn't have phrased it that harshly. But yet, we see eye to eye here..

Anyone who is against gay marriage has no moral compass? Originally Posted by homer13

My statement had more context that what you imply there. I said anyone that posts on this website who is also against gay marriage has a shitty moral compass. And I stand by that statement.

that is a clue less statement since being gay goes against all forms off morality. Homosexuality goes against the bible yet their are gay priest (just look at all the fags fucking little boys) and gay people who claim to be religious. If their is a god and the bible is correct non of those fag's are going to heaven ( I guess unless they confess and denounce before they die) what a fucking loop hole that is. Why live a religious life when you can fuck, murder and steal and then ask to be saved on your death bed and go to heaven. Originally Posted by homer13

This is a terrible paragraph, I wish you hadn't of written it. All forms of morality? What are all the forms of morality? You seem to think that Christianity/Bible is the only source of morality/ethics? There are a lot of moral/ethical systems one can choose to adopt to guide their life. Consequentialism and Deontological ethics to mind, but there are many more. Anyone that has even scratched the surface of Philosophy knows that.

My point is being against gay marriage has nothing to do with anything other then your preference and everyone has a right to their own preference. In my perfect world I'd never have to associate with transgenders, gays, thugs, sicko's, hiv infected people, rapist, religious people, fat chicks, homeless people etc... but we don't live in a our perfect world so we just make do. Originally Posted by homer13

It's fine if you don't like gay people because you're a bigot, I mean that's your own prerogative. But to be against gay marriage is a different can of worms. Do you think black people should be only worth 3/5s a white mans vote like it was is 1787? It's a matter of civil rights. Gay people are going to continue kissing, fucking and loving each other regardless of their ability to marry, so why is it something you're against? It won't affect you at all. It won't harm you at all. You think once gay people get married you are suddenly going to have to watch them have gay sex or something?

I personally struggle with this one because I am all about rights and do what you want and blah blah blah but then I'm creeped out by this and think fuck no they shouldn't get the same rights just because their gay. Originally Posted by homer13

What the HELL are you talking about? Why shouldn't they get the same rights? Because it makes you uncomfortable? Grow the fuck up.

Then I think that's a bad way to think, you know your more open minded then that. Then I think about womens rights and minority rights and is this how it was for them struggling to get rights. Then I say being a homo is a choice not a group. Originally Posted by homer13

Did you choose to be straight? Or are you just like that?

I disagree, this depends vastly on your world view. I do not see immoral to have sex for money, no one is harmed. Of course everyone has their own moral system, and some just adopt whatever is popular. If you're not cheating on a GF/wife, how is it wrong to have sex with someone for money? It's mutually beneficial to both parties, and no one is harmed. Morally speaking, from my point of view, no wrong is done.

This is open for more interpretation. I guess we'll have to disagree on this unless you can find some accepted morality that allows you to fuck whores or sell your body for cash. I'm talking about widely accepted morality not just from a religious point of view. Again this is your point of view and as you continue to demonstrate you point of view is the only accepted point of view or else they are bigots and moral shit heads in your book.




I agree, although I wouldn't have phrased it that harshly. But yet, we see eye to eye here..

I don't sugar coat stuff, I say it how I feel it and don't try to be politically correct about it.



My statement had more context that what you imply there. I said anyone that posts on this website who is also against gay marriage has a shitty moral compass. And I stand by that statement.

That's because you are just as close minded as the people your are against. If they don't believe what you believe then they are bigots and have a shitty moral compass. That's a pretty clue less stand but what the fuck, I could care less. I'm not the one trying to convince anyone of anything, I don't give 2 shit's if gay's get rights or not.




This is a terrible paragraph, I wish you hadn't of written it. All forms of morality? What are all the forms of morality? You seem to think that Christianity/Bible is the only source of morality/ethics? There are a lot of moral/ethical systems one can choose to adopt to guide their life. Consequentialism and Deontological ethics to mind, but there are many more. Anyone that has even scratched the surface of Philosophy knows that.

True there are different forms of morality. I in this case am talking mostly about religious morality and widely accepted mass american morality.



It's fine if you don't like gay people because you're a bigot, I mean that's your own prerogative. But to be against gay marriage is a different can of worms. Do you think black people should be only worth 3/5s a white mans vote like it was is 1787? It's a matter of civil rights. Gay people are going to continue kissing, fucking and loving each other regardless of their ability to marry, so why is it something you're against? It won't affect you at all. It won't harm you at all. You think once gay people get married you are suddenly going to have to watch them have gay sex or something?


I like how you call me a bigot and then put a race's struggle in there to try and defend your argument knowing what I posted in the next paragraph. Typical agendized posting from something who thinks everyone should be in his boat. Your just as bad as the hate mongers or religious right. Your like those dumb asses who blow up abortion clinics because abortion is murder and yet they just murdered two innocent doctors. Again being gay is a choice not a race. I'm not saying they don't deserve rights. Everyone deserves rights as Americans but they shouldn't get special treatment because they like to take it up the ass and are sad because they were born with a penis. (go ahead and fill in the lesbo part if you want) They shouldn't get protection from hire or college admission. There is no struggle, they grow up like everyone else. Other protected groups are protected for a reason.


What the HELL are you talking about? Why shouldn't they get the same rights? Because it makes you uncomfortable? Grow the fuck up.


They have rights just like you and me but they if they want special rights just because they chose to be gay, I don't see it. You grow the fuck up, your just as close minded as SOB who hates minorities. I am entitled to what ever I want to believe as is everyone else and since gays don't have the rights in most places like you want I'd say majority is against you. Personally I could care less except for medical insurance. It's already to expensive.




Did you choose to be straight? Or are you just like that? Originally Posted by iplaypoker

I've never had a desire for a dick in my mouth or ass if that's what you mean. The thought of it makes me puke. Does that answer your question.

So you didn't 'choose' to be straight, it's just how you are. That's the way it works with gay people, it's the way they are. You don't decide what turns you on, that's just the way the brain is wired. Did you choose to find women attractive one day?

Were you walking along, saw a mailbox and thought: "You know what I'm tried of fucking mailboxes! Some of them give me splinters I need to find something that makes more sense. I'll try women, I hear that's the popular thing these days.."

Of course that's not how it plays out, but you already know that.

Plus there are numerous examples in the animal kingdom of homosexual behavior, so it's not even unique to humans (or even primates!).

You need to get past being disgusted at what people do behind closed doors. It's none of your business what they do, and it doesn't affect you. Quit thinking about it. I mean unless you want to think about it, but that sounds like a YOU problem. Every time you refer to gay people you do it in a derogatory manner with the main focus being what they do with their private parts. These people also spend time together like other humans like go to eat together, wish to build lives together, careers, hobbies, aspire for the future, aspire to love and be loved, you know the whole Maslow's hierarchy. The whole kit and caboodle.

Perhaps if you could bother to see them as fellow humans first, the rest would follow. Perhaps you're just a piece of shit bigot. Who knows?

So you didn't 'choose' to be straight, it's just how you are. That's the way it works with gay people, it's the way they are. You don't decide what turns you on, that's just the way the brain is wired. Did you choose to find women attractive one day?

Were you walking along, saw a mailbox and thought: "You know what I'm tried of fucking mailboxes! Some of them give me splinters I need to find something that makes more sense. I'll try women, I hear that's the popular thing these days.."

Of course that's not how it plays out, but you already know that.

Plus there are numerous examples in the animal kingdom of homosexual behavior, so it's not even unique to humans (or even primates!).

You need to get past being disgusted at what people do behind closed doors. It's none of your business what they do, and it doesn't affect you. Quit thinking about it. I mean unless you want to think about it, but that sounds like a YOU problem. Every time you refer to gay people you do it in a derogatory manner with the main focus being what they do with their private parts. These people also spend time together like other humans like go to eat together, wish to build lives together, careers, hobbies, aspire for the future, aspire to love and be loved, you know the whole Maslow's hierarchy. The whole kit and caboodle.

Perhaps if you could bother to see them as fellow humans first, the rest would follow. Perhaps you're just a piece of shit bigot. Who knows? Originally Posted by iplaypoker

No it was tree's but your close. I get what your saying it's a feeling not a choice. I'm guessing I saw some pics of tits or twat and got hard, how's that for an explanation. I don't care what they do behind closed doors, I don't care what anyone does behind closed doors if it's not endangering others (rape, murder etc..) does that mean they deserve a special class because of what they do or a protected status. I don't think so. You can call me names all you want but your just as big a bigot as anyone on here. It's your beliefs or they are pieces of shit with shitty morals and bigots. You continue to post because you come off just as closed minded as anyone anywhere. Go ahead and spew your hate, I don't hate anyone or what they do. Doesn't mean I want to be in the room with them or go party with them and guess what. That's my right.

Hey Ralphie - I took your idea and did a poll in KC. It has not been as busy as your here.

Nice thing about a poll is that people can say things without giving a name.
I don't eat there- makes no difference 5 23.81%
I will not got there because of what was said by the CEO 3 14.29%
I will go there just because of what was said by the CEO 11 52.38%
I ate there before but will not go back 1 4.76%
I ate there before and will not go back 0 0%
no opinion 1 4.76%

Of the 21 votes 11 said they would go there because of what was said. And 1 of 4 could care less. Interesting responses.

Not sure what your results would be here.