Do Providers enjoy being in the "Hobby" or not?

The lady who I have supported for the past five years had been a provider before I started supporting her. She did reasonably well financially. However, she did not enjoy it and was constsantly looking for an alternative that would give her at least equal financial security. She thought that her providing was somewhat risky and did not like having sex where the man was not concerned with her feelings. Although she made a good living, she was uncomfortable working at a job that she had to conceal from close family members. She is much happier with life these days.

The lady who I have supported for the past five years had been a provider before I started supporting her. She did reasonably well financially. However, she did not enjoy it and was constsantly looking for an alternative that would give her at least equal financial security. She thought that her providing was somewhat risky and did not like having sex where the man was not concerned with her feelings. Although she made a good living, she was uncomfortable working at a job that she had to conceal from close family members. She is much happier with life these days. Originally Posted by SD7

Perhaps not all Providers like the hobby, I guess. Thanks for sharing.

Great topic. I imagine most see it as a job and would not work if they didn't have to.

Yes many on here love what they do now, so what happens when they are old and pruny? No one is hooking at 70. The reality is that no all of them are going to find someone and live happily ever after...

I enjoy it...It's like any job, there are things that will piss you off from time to time but for the most part I quite enjoy myself and the lovely people I meet...If one becomes too jaded in this business then it's probably time to step back and reevaluate your life... Originally Posted by Valerie

very well said!!!! I agree 100%!!!!

Hello ... I just wanted to share ...that I work in the medical industry and have a nice job...I DO YES I DO ENJOY the hobby......it is a part time hobby that allows me to provide pleasure at the same time I receive.....the eccie guys I see are delicious ......I enjoy it!

Have you ever read showcases and ads? They all love what they do.

I think for a lot of us ladies who do this on the side, it can be quite enjoyable. I'm in a position where I don't have to do this to earn an income... Any funds that come my way are simply due to the Joker tax. I'm selective in whom I choose, so I've had relatively few bad encounters... I think that makes all the difference when it comes to enjoyment. There are things I don't like about it, such as board related drama, but BCD - that is my vacation, my spa day, my bread and butter.

Hello ... I just wanted to share ...that I work in the medical industry and have a nice job...I DO YES I DO ENJOY the hobby......it is a part time hobby that allows me to provide pleasure at the same time I receive.....the eccie guys I see are delicious ......I enjoy it! Originally Posted by Monica Austin

I cannot wait until next month.......

Given the proviso that being forced into the profession due to physical, mental or financial reasons it would be natural to dislike providing as a profession and perhaps odd if one didn't dislike it.

Given that a provider enjoyed her work, at least tolerably due to the financial benefits that can be obtained, I'd have to say you ladies have it better than you know from a business perspective.

I literally think providers have the absolute best business in the world as they (can) rake in huge sums of (likely) unreported income that gives them tons and tons of options that few others have and it requires little money up front or special skills that can't readily be learned. It may not always be pleasant but it has massive benefits as a business.

Via years of experience and conversations with many providers, I'd say few providers ever make a success of themselves financially, despite raking in huge cash flow. The problem is they spend their money in "living the life" and have no idea how to invest it into another business that isn't trading hours for dollars. The problem is compounded in this "NO interest" environment where money in the bank loses its value due to inflation.

The following thoughts came together from pieces of this thread: http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=621280&page=2 where theCFE is looking for a location to provide and OliviaHoward demonstrates a vast knowledge of the business behind the business of providing - coupled with my own thoughts.


An excellect solution to a lady's investment/business dilemma with what to do with "all that cash/cashflow" is real estate as an investment - if one were to educate oneself. There is anonymity (via land trusts) if you want to keep your affairs private. It offers opportunity to deposit huge sums of money into secure cash flowing assets - privately. Real estate can be the valid business a provider needs to show some income or not, just as you choose. Used creatively such as buying property subject to the existing lien one can super leverage their cash flow then rent, or sell via lease option (just not in TX anymore if you've got any sense) or sell with owner financing to provide a nice steady stream of dependable mailbox money with little effort again for decades to come. Even the little effort required to be a landlord can be contracted out to a realtor so it can be a hands off business. Constructed properly even deals that go bad can make more money by failing than if the inital intent succeeded. You think you can make money selling a property once ? How about selling the SAME property 3 times! (Hint: Foreclosure is your friend if you're the bank and the property has equity!)



There is little equivalent for a guy to rake in the huge cash flows that you girls can, especially with no education requirement. To borrow from Spear88 's earlier comment:

"If they were a dude with no particular genius or talent, like myself then they might have had to work FUCKING OFFSHORE in the oil industry like I did in order to make some good money.

Believe me, working in a dirty dangerous shitty job on a fucking platform with a bunch of hardlegs for three weeks at a time sucks. And not in a good way."


He is correct. Guys with no special talent must work their ass off in unpleasant and often unsafe conditions to have any chance to earn a fraction of what a descent provider can pull in. Hell guys with talent are lucky to compete with the cash flow a provider can pull in.


When I was younger, I used to think guys ruled the world only to learn that you ladies truly have the world by the balls, both literally and figuratively. You just need to learn how to apply your talents first to earn the cash and second to apply it to a self supporting cash flowing business then you will have created something damn few will attain - financial independence. What's even more amazing is the short time frame in which you can do it through providing. (Obviously this works only if applied properly - just like a condum.)

If it sounds like I'm jealous, from a business perspective, I am.

I would say some do and some don't but I assume a good majority wouldn't do it if they have money. Originally Posted by coffeelover351

So...just so we are all on the same page here...
If any of us had 10 million banked...would we get up on Monday to go to work.???
Yeah...lets get right on it.

Next...Providing is not like any other job...anywhere.
Girls without enough skills to work a calendar charge 300/hr and have no idea what they are doing.
Any other job...you would be fired the first day.

The OPS question should be clear to all.
If you are "forced" into hobbying...you may not like it...And all agree that is a bad situation.
But in the USA you can get away and do it anywhere...without being forced.

If you are not forced...a girl should mosdef like it...
Nowhere else can she work a 3 hr day, 3-4 days a week and make $70-100K..
And...let me think....Hmm...yeah...she might be fuckin some guys anyway after dinner or something...so its not like she is doing competitive gymnastics or something..

Ladies, if you really don't like it...try meeting Spear on one of the offshore rigs...
Or work a full 12hr shift in a short order kitchen.
Then you can compare.. Course...you won't clear $35K...but thats business.
Lots of women do it...but it aint for the lazy or undisciplined.

Course...some plp would bitch if you hung them with a new rope.

Just my $0.02
L8r
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Nobody is going to come on here and admit the worst parts about their job. Like Valerie said. It is a job and sometimes when things really annoy us or we want to throw things at the wall we have to remind ourselves.

Given the proviso that being forced into the profession due to physical, mental or financial reasons it would be natural to dislike providing as a profession and perhaps odd if one didn't dislike it.

Given that a provider enjoyed her work, at least tolerably due to the financial benefits that can be obtained, I'd have to say you ladies have it better than you know from a business perspective.

I literally think providers have the absolute best business in the world as they (can) rake in huge sums of (likely) unreported income that gives them tons and tons of options that few others have and it requires little money up front or special skills that can't readily be learned. It may not always be pleasant but it has massive benefits as a business.

Via years of experience and conversations with many providers, I'd say few providers ever make a success of themselves financially, despite raking in huge cash flow. The problem is they spend their money in "living the life" and have no idea how to invest it into another business that isn't trading hours for dollars. The problem is compounded in this "NO interest" environment where money in the bank loses its value due to inflation.

The following thoughts came together from pieces of this thread: http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=621280&page=2 where theCFE is looking for a location to provide and OliviaHoward demonstrates a vast knowledge of the business behind the business of providing - coupled with my own thoughts.


An excellect solution to a lady's investment/business dilemma with what to do with "all that cash/cashflow" is real estate as an investment - if one were to educate oneself. There is anonymity (via land trusts) if you want to keep your affairs private. It offers opportunity to deposit huge sums of money into secure cash flowing assets - privately. Real estate can be the valid business a provider needs to show some income or not, just as you choose. Used creatively such as buying property subject to the existing lien one can super leverage their cash flow then rent, or sell via lease option (just not in TX anymore if you've got any sense) or sell with owner financing to provide a nice steady stream of dependable mailbox money with little effort again for decades to come. Even the little effort required to be a landlord can be contracted out to a realtor so it can be a hands off business. Constructed properly even deals that go bad can make more money by failing than if the inital intent succeeded. You think you can make money selling a property once ? How about selling the SAME property 3 times! (Hint: Foreclosure is your friend if you're the bank and the property has equity!)



There is little equivalent for a guy to rake in the huge cash flows that you girls can, especially with no education requirement. To borrow from Spear88 's earlier comment:

"If they were a dude with no particular genius or talent, like myself then they might have had to work FUCKING OFFSHORE in the oil industry like I did in order to make some good money.

Believe me, working in a dirty dangerous shitty job on a fucking platform with a bunch of hardlegs for three weeks at a time sucks. And not in a good way."


He is correct. Guys with no special talent must work their ass off in unpleasant and often unsafe conditions to have any chance to earn a fraction of what a descent provider can pull in. Hell guys with talent are lucky to compete with the cash flow a provider can pull in.


When I was younger, I used to think guys ruled the world only to learn that you ladies truly have the world by the balls, both literally and figuratively. You just need to learn how to apply your talents first to earn the cash and second to apply it to a self supporting cash flowing business then you will have created something damn few will attain - financial independence. What's even more amazing is the short time frame in which you can do it through providing. (Obviously this works only if applied properly - just like a condum.)

If it sounds like I'm jealous, from a business perspective, I am. Originally Posted by ManFourWomen

Thanks for sharing your point of view.

I dated a provider who was relatively popular for almost two years when I lived in Dallas. For the most part she did not like doing it, it all depended on certain clients, if she "got lucky" and it was decent looking guy with a decent cock, basically someone who typically wouldn't "need" to pay for it (and who didn't act like a dick), then she has had fun with it. But according to her those were few and far between and she typically didn't particularly enjoy it. She obviously didn't hate it though, or I doubt she would have done it for as long as she did.

I love it so much I tell everyone I'm going to work.

I always run specials because I appreciate all the guys who contribute to my success. No matter the bad days I have a lot of good ones!!