I did rally behind Romney; but won't repeat that mistake again.........an immigration reform agreement will NOT move hispanic voters into the GOP camp......if you have any proof that it will, please share.It is not breaking up...it just can not win with the Tea version.
So like I said, the GOP is in the process of breaking up......they can't win/keep the Hispanic vote and they are isolating the conservative camp.............the GOP is going through a break up, plain and simple. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
WTF are you jabbering about ?Reagan did! You Tea Nuts are fucking up the GOP party, that is why you will be cast aside like your earlier version was, The John Birch Society. The GOP is not breaking up, it is getting rid of baggage.
Romney got only 27% of the latino vote......worse than McCain's 31% and Bush's 34%.......Had Romney gotten a higher percentage of latinos he would be president............a Repubican can't get the Latino vote while campgaing to down size government...........it is one or the other.....
So Rove throws the conservatives of the party overboard in hopes of picking up latinos...it ain't gonna happen in sufficient numbers !
You need to stop with your bullshitting...it won't fly here. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
WTF are you jabbering about ?The GOP will never get the majority of the Black and Hispanic vote without winning the contest for who can offer the most generous welfare benefits and the most rewards for coming here illegally. That's a contest we can't win and shouldn't participate in.
Romney got only 27% of the latino vote......worse than McCain's 31% and Bush's 34%.......Had Romney gotten a higher percentage of latinos he would be president............a Repubican can't get the Latino vote while campgaing to down size government...........it is one or the other.....
So Rove throws the conservatives of the party overboard in hopes of picking up latinos...it ain't gonna happen in sufficient numbers !
You need to stop with your bullshitting...it won't fly here. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
WTF; your link pops up with a Malware warning ! Originally Posted by WhirlawayThat does not change the fact that Reagan got Latinos to vote for him while lying about reducing the size of the Federal Government.
The GOP will never get the majority of the Black and Hispanic vote without winning the contest for who can offer the most generous welfare benefits and the most rewards for coming here illegally. That's a contest we can't win and shouldn't participate in. Originally Posted by joe bloeThat is misguided but as long as you continue to believe that, then Rove will continue to marginalize you. All you have to do to see the fate of the Tea Party is to google John Birch Society.
Reagan got 37% and passed amnesty. We showed the Hispanics we love 'em, we cherish 'em, we care about 'em. We granted them amnesty. We gave citizenship to three-point-some-odd million of them in 1986. The next presidential election is George H. W. Bush in 1988. The percentage of the Hispanic vote that he got two years after amnesty was 30%. So '84, Reagan: 37% Hispanic vote.
Again, very quickly : in '84, Reagan, 37% Hispanic vote in a landslide. Two years later, he grants amnesty to three million illegals. And in two more years, George H. W. Bush only gets 30% of the Hispanic vote. Two years after amnesty, the Republicans lose 7% of the Hispanic vote they had prior election. So where is this empirical evidence that reaching out and granting amnesty or pathway to citizenship or whatever works?There isn't any evidence that it accomplishes what the Republicans are dreaming that it will accomplish.[/INDENT]
Regan got the Latino vote because he promised amnesty. That won't fly any longer within the GOP.................the conservative faction will not buy into another phony amnesty for border security pledge ! The one like Rubio is proposing...The evidence is in Reagan's election win!
Amnesty doesn't buy the GOP hispanic loyalty !Reagan got 37% and passed amnesty. We showed the Hispanics we love 'em, we cherish 'em, we care about 'em. We granted them amnesty. We gave citizenship to three-point-some-odd million of them in 1986. The next presidential election is George H. W. Bush in 1988. The percentage of the Hispanic vote that he got two years after amnesty was 30%. So '84, Reagan: 37% Hispanic vote.
Again, very quickly : in '84, Reagan, 37% Hispanic vote in a landslide. Two years later, he grants amnesty to three million illegals. And in two more years, George H. W. Bush only gets 30% of the Hispanic vote. Two years after amnesty, the Republicans lose 7% of the Hispanic vote they had prior election. So where is this empirical evidence that reaching out and granting amnesty or pathway to citizenship or whatever works?There isn't any evidence that it accomplishes what the Republicans are dreaming that it will accomplish.[/INDENT] Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Regan got the Latino vote because he promised amnesty. That won't fly any longer within the GOP.................the conservative faction will not buy into another phony amnesty for border security pledge ! The one like Rubio is proposing...
Amnesty doesn't buy the GOP hispanic loyalty !Reagan got 37% and passed amnesty. We showed the Hispanics we love 'em, we cherish 'em, we care about 'em. We granted them amnesty. We gave citizenship to three-point-some-odd million of them in 1986. The next presidential election is George H. W. Bush in 1988. The percentage of the Hispanic vote that he got two years after amnesty was 30%. So '84, Reagan: 37% Hispanic vote.
Again, very quickly : in '84, Reagan, 37% Hispanic vote in a landslide. Two years later, he grants amnesty to three million illegals. And in two more years, George H. W. Bush only gets 30% of the Hispanic vote. Two years after amnesty, the Republicans lose 7% of the Hispanic vote they had prior election. So where is this empirical evidence that reaching out and granting amnesty or pathway to citizenship or whatever works?There isn't any evidence that it accomplishes what the Republicans are dreaming that it will accomplish.[/INDENT] Originally Posted by Whirlaway