Cancellation fee? Agree or disagree??

3PeckeredBilly Goat : I really appreciated the wonderful explanation of the phrase Yxes posted. Any lesson I can learn is one appreciated. Around here, some sort of enlightenment is sincerely received.

To my point: I wholeheartedly agree the customer should be held accountable, in regards to payment, for a NCNS. An agreement has been made, and he damn sure better own up to it. I would pay, and I have paid, for sessions I couldnt make. I see it as only fair, with all the point Ms. Devain produced.

Also, I truly believe the providers, too, must be held accountable for their own NCNS, last minute cancellations, to be fair. Right ? Hobbyist's assume lots of risks in our lovely game, cover stories, cash withdrawals, time unaccounted for, gas, etc., to make appointments which blow up in their face. Bad service deserves a refund. I get it all the time for underperformance from my vendors. I make sure I do.

I suppose this would be true if this were a perfect world, where both gentlemen and gentlewomen honored their word to the extent where money wasn't the only currency involved in any transaction. But its not. It sucks. Thats the risk one takes when participating in illegal, covert activities. Another deal gone bad.

Lets all agree: When no show's ( NCNS ) occur without 24 hour notification, one get's their money, or the other gets a free session. Hows that sound ? Oh yea, I know. But where is the limit ? 15 minutes ? One hour ? Anything definate we can all agree on ? I doubt it. The human condition precludes all rational thought.

VDV: Put him on the List. Tell your GF's in the Powder Room. He ain't no gentleman. Just another pussy junky who doesnt give a damn about anything, particularly you, except his addiction. All words are bullshit until backed up with cash. One's word is defined by how well one pays their debts.

You know, every session I paid for when I had to bail at the last minute ( ok: it was only 2 x ), meant something more spectacular, for me, when we rescheduled and played. She KNEW I wanted to see her. She knew I was good for my word. And she would always re-arrange her schedule for me from that point forward. She loved me because my word was money.

Ladies and Gents: Play fair, play right, respect those who have earned respect around here, and hurriedly dismiss those who don't. My $0.02 worth.

I don't know how many of you ladies face this situation, BUT today was the day that broke the straw on the camel's back...
I don't know how many of ya'll have other jobs or sources of income, but this is my one and only job. I rely on my scheduled appointments to pay my bills. Gent's, when ya'll go to work every day.. I know you expect to get paid for the time that your there. TIme, time& 1/2 for over time.. yadda yadda.. but.. you expect to get paid.. correct.. ??
When you come in, your boss doesn't say to you that .. well.. he only had XX in his pocket, or whatever..
You'd be pissed...

So, after booking an hour show this afternoon. . It wasn't 20 min from time of session and this gent says to me.. ok.. XX for full hour.. ?
No, no, no... that isn't my rate. My rate is all over my showcase, both websites and it's no surprise what I ask.

So, expect next time there will be a $100 cancellation fee... I rely on that session, to pay bills, etc.. THIS IS MY JOB...

Is this fair?? What do ya'll think?? Guys and Girls Alike.. Please.. I"d love your opinion..

*muah* Originally Posted by Vixen DeVain

Ummm, if that guy couldn't afford the donation, then I don't think he could've afforded the cancellation fee either.

I wouldn't do a cancellation fee, just keep him on your personal "bad boy" list and move on. You loose more money and rest trying to contact and feed time wasters like these.

There are plenty of other respectable gentlemen out there who will value your time!

Just my .02

If you book a provider during her prime time on Fridays or Saturdays you should do everything possible to keep the date. Things happen on both sides all the time, baby sitters not showing up, traffic on LBJ ecetra. Nobody wants to deal with a time waster on either side.

I only had a client pay me for canceling one time... and i appreciated i know he didnt have to... but at the same time he kinda deserved to because he scheduled twice and cancelled. . .

Hey ditto to everything the OP said. And I had this exact thing happen this week too. It was yesterday. He said he forgot and would pay by that afternoon. 'insert eye roll here'

Needless to say I ne'er saw a dime and lost 2 I could have had. Fortunately today kicked ass so it balances fine. But no matter what, it's still a shitty thing to do, and tells on you for how much respect you actually have for us. Jerks


As a business it's just part of the game and it's not really THAT big a deal. But personally it can be pretty insulting.

I would be happy with a mutual agreement. If I can't make the agreed appointment, I pay in full. If the provider can't make the agreed ppointment and doesn't give at least 2 hours notice, I get a free session (because the time I waste is worth more than the session).

The problem is that the agreement is unenforceable in either direction. :-(

ok let me break this down. 1.) she's not saying he never nc/ns. He wasted her time and tried to haggle. 2.) she's not saying she is strapped for cash. She is saying this is her JOB,and she doesn't appreciate him wasting her time. 3.) why would we gents charge a fee for a lady nc/ns? were not the ones missing out on $. If a lady nc/ns us we can save it or find another lady. Their time is valuable in the sense that they've lost money. We don't actually lose money when were nc/ns just time and effort. We obviously weren't working at the time of said nc/ns or we wouldn't be at said location to hobby. I think a cancellation fee is in order in this type of situation. He didn't have the fee for the session yet he still showed up to her incall. She has every right to demand a cancellation fee. Why would a lady want to book with him again or worry about if he would return to see her or not? He has already displayed he is a problem client and a time waster. What he did was very disrespectful. He knowingly showed up without the proper fee and tried to swindle her.

ok let me break this down. 1.) she's not saying he never nc/ns. He wasted her time and tried to haggle. 2.) she's not saying she is strapped for cash. She is saying this is her JOB,and she doesn't appreciate him wasting her time. 3.) why would we gents charge a fee for a lady nc/ns? were not the ones missing out on $. If a lady nc/ns us we can save it or find another lady. Their time is valuable in the sense that they've lost money. We don't actually lose money when were nc/ns just time and effort. We obviously weren't working at the time of said nc/ns or we wouldn't be at said location to hobby. I think a cancellation fee is in order in this type of situation. He didn't have the fee for the session yet he still showed up to her incall. She has every right to demand a cancellation fee. Why would a lady want to book with him again or worry about if he would return to see her or not? He has already displayed he is a problem client and a time waster. What he did was very disrespectful. He knowingly showed up without the proper fee and tried to swindle her. Originally Posted by jazz1j

I agree that the guy was very disrespectful with the OP.

I don't agree with your statement that the client's time isn't valuable. Many (probably most) of us have driven 20,30, maybe 40 or more minutes to go to a lady's incall only to have her no show. How much money is spent each way in gas on something like that? How much time was lost where you could have been possibly working and earning money during that time? The client's time is just as important and valuable as the lady's time. There should be a mutual respect with sessions. Most of the time there is, but there are always exceptions on both sides.

I wonder if Vixen will go back and provide a cancellation fee to all the guys she jacked around with no NS/NCs and last minute cancellations after repeatedly moving an appointment back.

If he has scheduled multiple hrs YES ENFORCE ..How??..Well If he would like to see you again he will be calling and this is the way .. Not full proof BUT If he would like to see you again I am guessing he will pay if not then that's up to you if you see him or not...but I do charge a cancellation fee if a client books multiple hrs and does not show or cancels ... Then again I have also given a client gas money for driving to me and me not being able to see him .. So Its up to the person and if they chose to do ..LET'S SAY THE RIGHT THING...I mean you get what you give out....But If It Is a regular client then think twice !!! GOOD LUCK !!!!

If he has scheduled multiple hrs YES ENFORCE ..How??..Well If he would like to see you again he will be calling and this is the way .. Not full proof BUT If he would like to see you again I am guessing he will pay if not then that's up to you if you see him or not...but I do charge a cancellation fee if a client books multiple hrs and does not show or cancels ... Then again I have also given a client gas money for driving to me and me not being able to see him .. So Its up to the person and if they chose to do ..LET'S SAY THE RIGHT THING...I mean you get what you give out....But If It Is a regular client then think twice !!! GOOD LUCK !!!! Originally Posted by crazy4lisalove

That's what everyone has been saying... the a-holes that do this type of thing don't care because they won't ever try to schedule with that provider again, so it's a penalty that can never be enforced. The only way it can be enforced is on the people that have a conscience and would do the right thing. In general, those people you wouldn't have to worry about, because they will apologize and ask how they can make it right in the first place. So the ones you need this policy for won't ever get penalized by saying it's in effect.

I wonder if Vixen will go back and provide a cancellation fee to all the guys she jacked around with no NS/NCs and last minute cancellations after repeatedly moving an appointment back. Originally Posted by BigEddie

LMAO

I really try to schedule an appointment for the same day. That way of something coming up to where I have to cancel the appointment is extremely low. The drawback to that for me is that I don't always get an appointment that day due to being her booked up or what is available ends being bad timing for me. When the lady I deal with has no openings and is all booked for the day, I ask her to call me or text me if she has a cancelation that day. There has been a number of times where I was able to pick up a cancelation and the lady is not out any money.

I'm with secret frog... I typically book same day.
As my free time is a moving target, this works best for all as I don't have to worry about canceling or rescheduling impacting the provider's business. I don't sweat it if the answer is "no" as I'm the one being last minute

With that said, I've found two down sides to this approach:

1. There are some ladies that refuse same day / last minute clients. I've asked some why and have been told that they view it as an indication that the client is not serious about booking or is otherwise unreliable.

2. I don't always get what I want when I want it. More of an irritation but on those days when I really want to see someone, I have to accept the reality that there may not be a session...

-shlub

While I hate people too disrespectful to keep a scheduled appointment, a cancellation fee only hurts you. There are too many beautiful ladies out there, and your no-show is more likely to see them than he is to pay you and try for a new session. He'd be doubly annoyed if there was a good reason for the no show. Other clients may see your policy and refuse to see you just for having and posting a cancellation fee requirement. (I would)

Really, there's just no real upside here. You'll just punish yourself.