- Guest040616
- 08-10-2010, 04:16 AM
If other provider's could somehow "plagarize" your awesome BCD skills, the hobby world would be a much better place!
- RachaelBenedict
- 08-10-2010, 08:22 AM
I once wrote this lady, who stole wording and looked similar enough to me, a saccharine sweet note that patrons were getting us confused. That I put hours of work into my website and ads, and would love to help her, but I just hated that guys were mistaking me for her and possibly scheduling me instead of her...
She changed the wording immediately, needless to say, and apologized.
I caught another lady who'd ripped off big parts of my old ads, my FAQ, Welcome, Rates, and much of my "about". I decided I didn't like what I wrote anyway, and changed it. I did not confront her for a few reasons, including that she was advertising and marketing to an entirely different audience that instead of appreciating the extended verbage, would be confused by it. When I last checked, four months later, she's dropped the ads entirely and changed the wording on her website. Funnily that she's left up the paragraphs and parts of my old wording that I liked least.
Recently I've noticed other ladies stealing wording from some of my ads... but when someone advertises on CL and has webcam snapshots, a crummy site, and hasn't pulled it all together... it's pretty obvious that many 3-4 syllable words and eloquent phrases they have are stolen from somewhere (if not my site/ads, then someone elses).
I have my site right click/copy protected, and since I've done that, have noticed no lifting from any pages. Ads are harder, and I almost expect them to get plagiarized and closely paraphrased. This is why I've only had only 2 or 3 ads (with small revisions): as part of "personal branding", to take something that's my own, duplicate it everywhere, and "own" it so that people associate that wording with "me".
Intelligent ladies want their own unique wording. Fools eventually show themselves, and you can only hope that in the meantime, guys can tell the difference.
She changed the wording immediately, needless to say, and apologized.
I caught another lady who'd ripped off big parts of my old ads, my FAQ, Welcome, Rates, and much of my "about". I decided I didn't like what I wrote anyway, and changed it. I did not confront her for a few reasons, including that she was advertising and marketing to an entirely different audience that instead of appreciating the extended verbage, would be confused by it. When I last checked, four months later, she's dropped the ads entirely and changed the wording on her website. Funnily that she's left up the paragraphs and parts of my old wording that I liked least.
Recently I've noticed other ladies stealing wording from some of my ads... but when someone advertises on CL and has webcam snapshots, a crummy site, and hasn't pulled it all together... it's pretty obvious that many 3-4 syllable words and eloquent phrases they have are stolen from somewhere (if not my site/ads, then someone elses).
I have my site right click/copy protected, and since I've done that, have noticed no lifting from any pages. Ads are harder, and I almost expect them to get plagiarized and closely paraphrased. This is why I've only had only 2 or 3 ads (with small revisions): as part of "personal branding", to take something that's my own, duplicate it everywhere, and "own" it so that people associate that wording with "me".
Intelligent ladies want their own unique wording. Fools eventually show themselves, and you can only hope that in the meantime, guys can tell the difference.
- npita
- 08-10-2010, 12:10 PM
npita,As someone who has written articles for publication and have people ask me to write for them, I can assure you that writing takes more time than you (and most people) think it should. In this case, what you write is (or should be) a reflection of you and the clients to whom you wish to appeal, so I would think that it would be very important to write in a way that reflects who you are and would therefore be detrimental to someone who copies your writing. In the case f your auto responder, I can't see that what you wrote matters more or even as much as the fact that it's an automated message.
See, I actually felt that my ads/automated messages were unique to me, but now I will have to brainstorm and make them even more tailored so that any attempt at plagiarism with diminish right on the spot.
Great idea....will have to devote a day to reworking a new website, automated message and advertisement - a rebirth as they say! Originally Posted by Angelina Adams
What we're talking about here is an automated polite reply that consists of a couple of rather generic sentences. It's not something that will cause you to lose business if someone copies it. You might even consider the fact that an automated message system doesn't know if you are swamped with emails or not, so it's not clear that saying so in an automated message is a plus.
- Guest082413-1
- 08-10-2010, 01:16 PM
All valid points. The plagiarism associated with my automated message was actually a full paragraph with my language (six sentences), my style and grammar. The sentence I quoted was just the very first sentence of an approximate six sentences she copied. My only concern is that we are a.) both Latina b.) her manager/pimp adopted a similar name to mine "Angel" with the possible intent to confuse c.) as mentioned, confusion may occur -(e.g. out of town businessmen may think she is me or vice-versa. She has questionable reviews from her past and does not offer what I provide, so it might be a problem if men who aren't familiar with the Austin/San Antonio hobby come across a similar sounding name.
As a lady who works tirelessly to build a solid reputation, I can't afford to have someone who has is also Latina with a similar name compromising my stellar reputation. There is more to it than what I describe, so I am a bit vague in addressing the various counts of plagiarism. At the moment, I am reworking a new website with new video feeds and ba total reinvention so that any attempt to copy me will e noted. Your advice is inspirational - thank you!
In any event, thank you for your insights!!
Angelina
As a lady who works tirelessly to build a solid reputation, I can't afford to have someone who has is also Latina with a similar name compromising my stellar reputation. There is more to it than what I describe, so I am a bit vague in addressing the various counts of plagiarism. At the moment, I am reworking a new website with new video feeds and ba total reinvention so that any attempt to copy me will e noted. Your advice is inspirational - thank you!
In any event, thank you for your insights!!
Angelina
As someone who has written articles for publication and have people ask me to write for them, I can assure you that writing takes more time than you (and most people) think it should. In this case, what you write is (or should be) a reflection of you and the clients to whom you wish to appeal, so I would think that it would be very important to write in a way that reflects who you are and would therefore be detrimental to someone who copies your writing. In the case f your auto responder, I can't see that what you wrote matters more or even as much as the fact that it's an automated message.
What we're talking about here is an automated polite reply that consists of a couple of rather generic sentences. It's not something that will cause you to lose business if someone copies it. You might even consider the fact that an automated message system doesn't know if you are swamped with emails or not, so it's not clear that saying so in an automated message is a plus. Originally Posted by npita
- Mojojo
- 08-10-2010, 03:58 PM
Brick . . . window. . . when are we doing this? . . . . oh wait you already said which way your going to handle it 
On a serious note though props to you for handling it in such a civil manner. It just shows the class of person you are. I've seen threads before where things get ugly and cat fights ensue over something not worth it. I think your handling it the right way, now if she makes an attempt to slander you directly, only then would I agree that a change in tactic is necessary. Your intelligence and maturity levels are contributing factors as to why your one of the top GFE ladies out there!
On a serious note though props to you for handling it in such a civil manner. It just shows the class of person you are. I've seen threads before where things get ugly and cat fights ensue over something not worth it. I think your handling it the right way, now if she makes an attempt to slander you directly, only then would I agree that a change in tactic is necessary. Your intelligence and maturity levels are contributing factors as to why your one of the top GFE ladies out there!
An automated email message? Really? It bothers you that much? Ladies in the biz get ideas from other ladies all the time. Can you honestly say that you have never gotten an idea or even copied one little thing after looking at another lady's website or profile? Youve never used any tactics other than the ones you invented completely by yourself? Maybe this girl saw your automated response and thought, "hey that's a good idea. I need to set up one of those because I'm a little swamped." I doubt she said "ha, I'll steal that bitch's automated response and her business will go straight down the toilet!"There is a difference between borrowing a thought and straight up stealing someone's originality. I can see the OP's concern as credit is not being given where credit is due. In this case it seems that the person/s keep consistently "borrowing" thoughts and ideas. We all have different taste but personally me. . . . I LOVE a woman with originality because to me it means she will try her best to cater to my personal character. Now translated to hobby talk I want a woman who looks for ways to please me not just your typical "I'm here . . . you know the routine lets get it over with".
Originally Posted by Blond_Lily
- Guest082413-1
- 08-11-2010, 03:02 AM
Ms. Benedict:
What a beautiful website....and lady! I have a "thing" for classy blondes and you fit the mold. I am sorry to hear that you have shared a similar experience.
See, you and I share the same sentiment regarding confusion, I am angered and upset that the other latina lady had to choose a very similar name to mine ((several of my loyal clients alerted me when they saw her arrival)). My concern is that some of my out of town businessmen who are ADHD and try to query my name in Eros or Eccie or Date-Check, P411 might see "Angel" and very similar e-mail address and confuse the two of us. Now, she is very beautiful but our styles and the services we offer are much different. While I am low-volume and offer exclusive services to select gentlemen, her old reviews reflected a "swinging door", comforter stained incall. Gross! A few of my regulars were curious and booked her and guess what? They came right back to me.
When a lady such as yourself invests in a gorgeous website, photography and other things, you should certainly feel violated when someone steals your literature, ideas and essentially a part of you. I pride myself on having new pictures updates, I try to update my site (have been lazy) and I also pay attention to the small things like the best alcoholic beverages, my incall/hotels have always been top-notch, I provide full GFE and I don't rush my clients. With this said, I have noticed that several courtesans, luxury companions share a similar pride in noting the small details. Ladies who are higher volume are starting to realize that their expiration date in this hobby is coming soon if they don't up their game and rely strictly on looks, not the other things.
Each month, several ladies with great reputations including myself spend several hundreds on advertisements and they pay for themselves over and over again...so a smart manager/pimp who oversees the business of a new provider would gladly be intelligent enough to brand a similar name to that of another provider with proven success. Funny thing, I have a few new client requests that listed her as a reference and it has been days and she has not provided a single reference/response. What comes around, goes around as they say.
Going back to the lady who stole your FAQ, Welcome Rates, etc., - she was probably so lost and desperate, she opted to steal from the very best! Wow. I don't think I have been violated to that extent, but like you, the lady/manager who has recently stole a lot of my literature is not the brightest bulb on the block if she has to steal something as ridiculous as my automated response, word for word. Like you, a fool with a lack of intelligence or ability to provide an articulate, sound, intelligent conversation will eventually show themselves. I am sure that there are men who'd rather put tape over a woman's mouth and objectify her....not my clients!
Like several of the ladies who are well-rounded and post frequently in the HDH/National Forums, our clients tend to want something much deeper than your typical "poa". Looks only take you so far....intelligence is forever!
So glad that you smart ladies have chimed in!! Any other stories of plagiarism?
xo
Angelina
What a beautiful website....and lady! I have a "thing" for classy blondes and you fit the mold. I am sorry to hear that you have shared a similar experience.
See, you and I share the same sentiment regarding confusion, I am angered and upset that the other latina lady had to choose a very similar name to mine ((several of my loyal clients alerted me when they saw her arrival)). My concern is that some of my out of town businessmen who are ADHD and try to query my name in Eros or Eccie or Date-Check, P411 might see "Angel" and very similar e-mail address and confuse the two of us. Now, she is very beautiful but our styles and the services we offer are much different. While I am low-volume and offer exclusive services to select gentlemen, her old reviews reflected a "swinging door", comforter stained incall. Gross! A few of my regulars were curious and booked her and guess what? They came right back to me.
When a lady such as yourself invests in a gorgeous website, photography and other things, you should certainly feel violated when someone steals your literature, ideas and essentially a part of you. I pride myself on having new pictures updates, I try to update my site (have been lazy) and I also pay attention to the small things like the best alcoholic beverages, my incall/hotels have always been top-notch, I provide full GFE and I don't rush my clients. With this said, I have noticed that several courtesans, luxury companions share a similar pride in noting the small details. Ladies who are higher volume are starting to realize that their expiration date in this hobby is coming soon if they don't up their game and rely strictly on looks, not the other things.
Each month, several ladies with great reputations including myself spend several hundreds on advertisements and they pay for themselves over and over again...so a smart manager/pimp who oversees the business of a new provider would gladly be intelligent enough to brand a similar name to that of another provider with proven success. Funny thing, I have a few new client requests that listed her as a reference and it has been days and she has not provided a single reference/response. What comes around, goes around as they say.
Going back to the lady who stole your FAQ, Welcome Rates, etc., - she was probably so lost and desperate, she opted to steal from the very best! Wow. I don't think I have been violated to that extent, but like you, the lady/manager who has recently stole a lot of my literature is not the brightest bulb on the block if she has to steal something as ridiculous as my automated response, word for word. Like you, a fool with a lack of intelligence or ability to provide an articulate, sound, intelligent conversation will eventually show themselves. I am sure that there are men who'd rather put tape over a woman's mouth and objectify her....not my clients!
Like several of the ladies who are well-rounded and post frequently in the HDH/National Forums, our clients tend to want something much deeper than your typical "poa". Looks only take you so far....intelligence is forever!
So glad that you smart ladies have chimed in!! Any other stories of plagiarism?
xo
Angelina
I once wrote this lady, who stole wording and looked similar enough to me, a saccharine sweet note that patrons were getting us confused. That I put hours of work into my website and ads, and would love to help her, but I just hated that guys were mistaking me for her and possibly scheduling me instead of her...
She changed the wording immediately, needless to say, and apologized.
I caught another lady who'd ripped off big parts of my old ads, my FAQ, Welcome, Rates, and much of my "about". I decided I didn't like what I wrote anyway, and changed it. I did not confront her for a few reasons, including that she was advertising and marketing to an entirely different audience that instead of appreciating the extended verbage, would be confused by it. When I last checked, four months later, she's dropped the ads entirely and changed the wording on her website. Funnily that she's left up the paragraphs and parts of my old wording that I liked least.
Recently I've noticed other ladies stealing wording from some of my ads... but when someone advertises on CL and has webcam snapshots, a crummy site, and hasn't pulled it all together... it's pretty obvious that many 3-4 syllable words and eloquent phrases they have are stolen from somewhere (if not my site/ads, then someone elses).
I have my site right click/copy protected, and since I've done that, have noticed no lifting from any pages. Ads are harder, and I almost expect them to get plagiarized and closely paraphrased. This is why I've only had only 2 or 3 ads (with small revisions): as part of "personal branding", to take something that's my own, duplicate it everywhere, and "own" it so that people associate that wording with "me".
Intelligent ladies want their own unique wording. Fools eventually show themselves, and you can only hope that in the meantime, guys can tell the difference. Originally Posted by RachaelBenedict
- LeiLani
- 08-11-2010, 10:43 PM
OK I am LIVID because I am a newer provider, not well know yet, but I do take pride in being ME!My pics are all me, and I often have clients asking before appointments if they are indeed. I just found out that someone stole my pictures from one of my pages and posted it as her own! It is so ridiculous though because she cropped my head out but she supposedly has blond hair and mine is very dark and you can see some of it in the picture. I also do urban modeling so I have better pics up than the ones snapped in the house but she decided to steal it anyhow! GRRRRRR
- Leah Ireland
- 08-13-2010, 03:00 PM
Plagiarizing is inevitable in this business. I think you just have to keep changing your advertising and marketing frankly. A lot of people are not as smart as you so it's up to you to keep upping the ante - free education for them, but what can you do?
- pmdelites
- 08-14-2010, 05:53 PM
and what i've seen that i would consider worse is a website that plagiarized a woman's entire copy, photos, and info atc. and made a new ad of it on their website w/ someof the info marked "signup for more details", in essence copying from you and making money off it. and, they usually never update it. i've seen ads for women that were 1, 2, even 3 yrs old :^(
do a websearch on your name in quotes and see how many places "you" are advertising!! you might be stunned or shocked or pissed or glad, depends on who you are.
those are the websites i'd go after if i were a provider.
do a websearch on your name in quotes and see how many places "you" are advertising!! you might be stunned or shocked or pissed or glad, depends on who you are.
those are the websites i'd go after if i were a provider.