Reality check, no one in authority has called the election.

Playing Devil's advocate....


Suppose large scale fraud IS exposed-- do you think Biden supporters are going to be any more likely to acknowledge the legitimacy of another Trump term? The answer is no. It really does not matter in the end-- 50% of the country is going to feel that their guy got cheated-- even if it is proven that there is no fraud... or that there is rampant fraud. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Just how does large scale voter fraud occur in our fragmented system of voting?

Why hasn't the Trump team put forth a y evidence?


I realize you were asking a hypothetical....but these Trump supporters do not understand the difference between possible and probable.




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https://www.businessinsider.com/why-...wn-out-2020-11


Until then, Pennsylvania's Attorney General has asked county election officials to set aside ballots that arrived between 8 p.m. Tuesday and 5 p.m. Friday in case the Supreme Court re-hears the case and chooses to invalidate the ballots.

The total number of late-arriving ballots seem likely to number in the thousands, according to USA Today. It's highly unlikely that, even if they all went for Trump, they would swing the election.





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Ignoramus! Have you heard the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vniGMtO4KuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf-sW0M-tU Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Dummy. She can say whatever she wants. Has she presented proof in court.

Oh, no she didn’t.

All of this was presented to the court and no fraud was alleged. And there were poll watchers in the places from both sides.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...Fdd?li=BBnb7Kz

Lol

Prime example of the inability to accept the lack of fraud.

Keep drinking the kool aid dbl zero. Theres no hope for you!
Fact is that voter confidence in this election is at an all time low! I could give you links and numbers and statistics! You would still not believe it!
But to millions of Americans, some who didnt even vote believe this election was stolen!
Its over! So now we HAVE to ensure and secure the voting process!

Keep drinking the kool aid dbl zero. Theres no hope for you!
Fact is that voter confidence in this election is at an all time low! I could give you links and numbers and statistics! You would still not believe it!
But to millions of Americans, some who didnt even vote believe this election was stolen!
Its over! So now we HAVE to ensure and secure the voting process! Originally Posted by winn dixie

This is one area we agree.


This election is over. At the end of all this, Biden will most likely still be the President. But after the process-- I have a feeling we're going to have some serious changes in the voting process. Expect a lot of overhaul-- because under the current system we're now left with the fact that no matter what happens, 50% of the nation will feel that their guy was cheated. I have a feeling there are going to be changes in the voting process-- and there may even be changes in terms of how the POTUS is allowed to handle social media (Freedom of Speech is a thing, however, as it stands now-- certain govt. employees are very restricted online--and I see changes coming in how the office is expected to handle Twitter/Facebook/etc).



The tech nerd in me would love to see some sort of biometrical system for voting-- including ways to vote from home via your device if it has a thumbprint reader.

Dummy. She can say whatever she wants. Has she presented proof in court.

Oh, no she didn’t.

All of this was presented to the court and no fraud was alleged. And there were poll watchers in the places from both sides. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Did you just contradict yourself? You say she didn't present this in court and then you say a court said no fraud was alleged. You are such a liar...a court would never say no fraud was alleged. They would say no evidence was presented to prove fraud and she hasn't been in court according to you.
These are video clips from local news shows and not court documents.


You have zero credibility.

The tech nerd in me would love to see some sort of biometrical system for voting-- including ways to vote from home via your device if it has a thumbprint reader. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

I agree with that!

December 14 , the date the electoral college votes people till then the Blithering baffnoons in the media can say anything and its NOT FACT

Did you just contradict yourself? You say she didn't present this in court and then you say a court said no fraud was alleged. You are such a liar...a court would never say no fraud was alleged. They would say no evidence was presented to prove fraud and she hasn't been in court according to you.
These are video clips from local news shows and not court documents.


You have zero credibility. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Intentionally obtuse I see.

The woman in the video with the complaint can say whatever she wants. She has not gone to court with her allegations.

The TRUMP TEAM has failed to allege fraud in their suits, even in Harris co.

So Trump loses the election but then files court suits to reverse the loss because ... he’s pissed?

And that’s where it ends? No evidence? No proof? No specifics?

Yous Trumpholian WSNDs are as nutty as he is! Am I correct I assuming that Rexsy didn’t read the directions again, or is the real election yet to take place in the USEh?

LOLLING!

This election is over. At the end of all this, Biden will most likely still be the President. But after the process-- I have a feeling we're going to have some serious changes in the voting process. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

There will be no serious changes when there is no serious evidence of ‘illegal votes’.

I have a feeling there are going to be changes in the voting process- Originally Posted by Grace Preston

No.

States such as Colorado have been doing mail in ballots for years with little to no issue.

A lot of people voted early and by mail this year. Those votes go through a lengthy process to verify the identification of the voter as well as check to make sure they didn’t vote again on Election Day.

It wasn’t the voting system’s fault that the leaders in charge couldn’t properly handle a pandemic. So, it should be no surprise that more people voted via mail in/absentee ballots than risking their health on Election Day.

The voting process won’t be changed due to the lame duck refusing to put his big boy pants on.

and there may even be changes in terms of how the POTUS is allowed to handle social media (Freedom of Speech is a thing, however, as it stands now-- certain govt. employees are very restricted online--and I see changes coming in how the office is expected to handle Twitter/Facebook/etc). Originally Posted by Grace Preston

No.

There really is no need to change anything now that 45 will soon be out of office, so no more of him whining on Twitter all day. Other government officials are not using social media as obsessively as he did, so no need to change anything.

Besides 45 was still blocking people who pissed him off even after he was told he couldn’t, so I doubt the rules would be enforced since government thinks they’re above all anyways.

The tech nerd in me would love to see some sort of biometrical system for voting-- including ways to vote from home via your device if it has a thumbprint reader. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

It would be better to implement a live action ID verification which is a picture of your face taken right then & there to make sure it matches the face on your ID that you upload into the system as well. If you’re comfortable with the federal government having a database of your face and political opinions, then sure.

However, for me, it’s a big NO.

+1

Well put Medulla.

This election is over. At the end of all this, Biden will most likely still be the President. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Allow me to correct that: he will be President. He's President-elect. There's zero credible uncertainty here.

But after the process-- I have a feeling we're going to have some serious changes in the voting process. Expect a lot of overhaul-- because under the current system we're now left with the fact that no matter what happens, 50% of the nation will feel that their guy was cheated. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

You know, the GOP _for years_ ran outlandishly large vote by mail turnout operations in Florida, Arizona, etc. In Pennsylvania, before the Chosen Cheeto shit all over it, the PA GOP sent vote by mail applications to every registered R and nonafilliated voter in the state. It then complained after their guy lost. In PA, we only had the "red mirage" because the GOP legislature would not allow them to open and verify ballots prior to election day.


Trump told his people not to vote by mail. The other guys did so en mass. Don't say stupid shit, and you won't feel cheated.

I have a feeling there are going to be changes in the voting process-- and there may even be changes in terms of how the POTUS is allowed to handle social media (Freedom of Speech is a thing, however, as it stands now-- certain govt. employees are very restricted online--and I see changes coming in how the office is expected to handle Twitter/Facebook/etc). Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Americans have to start realizing that freedom of speech only applies to platforms they own. The biggest change we've already seen is that freedom of speech isn't given on someone else's platform, and explaining to the americans who don't understand that the government cannot censor you but twitter can is probably a necessary evil at this point.

The tech nerd in me would love to see some sort of biometrical system for voting-- including ways to vote from home via your device if it has a thumbprint reader. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

No. No interest in giving the government a biometric for that purpose. Zip. There isn't a security problem (least in PA) with the voting system. This is all a result of one guy spectacularly losing a bet on who would use it and in what numbers whilst trying to demonize it. We should not break a system which worked just fine because low-information people believe propaganda.

Intentionally obtuse I see.

The woman in the video with the complaint can say whatever she wants. She has not gone to court with her allegations.

The TRUMP TEAM has failed to allege fraud in their suits, even in Harris co. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You said she did go to court and the court issued a ruling...two lies you've told. Neither happened. I've got to put you on ignore as you have nothing useful to contribute.