TheNational did not pay to play.

I think this is unfair. I don't have a problem paying up front but many guys do and with good reason. Most guys who get ripped off -- and there are a lot of them -- paid up front. Guys don't like the pay up front for the same reason providers like to get it before service is rendered -- to avoid getting ripped off. Originally Posted by BFCjosh
I see both sides but I'm always willing to pay upfront. If its a girl I've seen before I typically don't pay upfront only because I genuinely forget to most of the time. I enter the incall and we start catching up and genuinely having a good time. Messing over someone never enters my mind and them screwing me over doesnt either because i use this board to help determine which providers are level headed and provide good service.

I almost walked out without paying my ATF once and we both forgot i didnt pay. I'm the one who reminded her but i think that comes with just getting to know someone.
Its basically about following ur gut. Usually with all my regulars they place it somewhere in the room. But with new fellas yes i ask for it upfront. Its a double edged sword. No one trust no one but you just have to trust ur gut.
^^^^what Zanzibar said
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I'm really sorry that happened to you, babe.
Thank you for speaking up!
So sorry you had to go through that. Don't let it get to you though. It's happened to the best of us. Thank you for sharing, and putting it out there to help others. Please PM his info to me so that i could avoid him also.
My questions are , is he a reg? How did you verify him? If he is a reg, is his profile still active? Suck it happen to you. Be safe.
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Was he a taller African American dude? This exact situation happened to me before I joined Eccie and was a little new to the hobby as well…
I'm sorry this happened too you hun, I would really apprieciate it if you can pm me his phone number so I can avoid him as well Originally Posted by KaitlynDior
No need to worry, i am not into tattoo covered trailer trash. Thanks anyway though.
Also, I am about as black as Jemma Martin's mom is alive.
(that means not very....)
Really?
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Was he a taller African American dude? This exact situation happened to me before I joined Eccie and was a little new to the hobby as well…
I'm sorry this happened too you hun, I would really apprieciate it if you can pm me his phone number so I can avoid him as well Originally Posted by KaitlynDior
Really? Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

I'm sorry was there a response in your post? The only thing that is really visible is your stupid fucking ad.
By the way, i have always been curious. Did you let your kids do the finger painting on your ass in your showcase
pic? Real classy.....
No need to worry, i am not into tattoo covered trailer trash. Thanks anyway though.
Also, I am about as black as Jemma Martin's mom is alive.
(that means not very....) Originally Posted by thenational
I must say your balls must be the size of cantaloupes not only did you fuck her over royally but you're rubbing it in her face. My only other observation is that this is some real fava beans and liver ;Hannibal Lector type shit.
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Hey everyone

I was hoping I would never have to do a negative thread/alert but I guess you're first week can't be all fun and play :/

TheNational contacted me via pm with his screening info. After verification we set an appointment to meet the same day.

We met and at the end of our appointment i went to check the envelope and there was a visa gift card. I explained to TheNational that i do not except gift cards but cash only. He told me he forgot his wallet and would go to his car to retrieve the money but never returned. I tried calling and he immediately forwarded my calls. I quickly checked the card and it had a $0 balance.

I am a very sweet and gentle person and am very upset this had to happen to me on my very first week in the hobby. Im highly upset and hope that this thread will help someone else in the future.

Please feel free to pm me with any questions

Alessandra Originally Posted by Alessandra Donati
It is always interesting to read things of this nature. First, this is obviously a cleverly placed ad. One that was posted to draw attention to a new provider. No press is bad press right? And by responding to it, I am in a sense encouraging that. It also plays upon the fact that most guys want to be a hero...or sympathetic to a "damsel" in distress. Especially one as attractive as Alessandra is. Truth is, BCD, i don't have anything bad to say about her. She is a very attractive young lady. However, the details of her post only contain half truths. Im still torn on whether I want to tear apart every aspect of the post in order to defend myself. Honestly, I was very surprised by this. I have been trying to figure out how I wanted to go about it. I did not receive one text or pm regarding this. Pretty strange for someone supposedly "short changed". I don't like getting involved in drama. But if I don't, I come off as "guilty". If I do, well...I get caught up in drama. It is kind of a lose/lose situation in the short run. To add to this, this thread got way off topic and added to the length of it. Thus generating even more interest in it.

Only Alessandra and I know the exact details of what went on. Everything else is just speculation at this point. Again, I did not receive a single text. Since the moderators here aren't opposed to snooping around, it could also be seen that i never received a pm from her either. All of this, and the "alert" was posted in LESS THAN 6 hours for a situation that wasn't imminently dangerous. That is her prerogative of course. But not really indicative of someone who feels like they were "short changed". Which wasn't the case either BTW. It is usually customary to throw out at least one "oh, hell no!!" followed by a "bitch!! where is my cash"? Ironically, I would have been more than happy to write Alessandra a review if given the chance. It would have been fairly positive as well. However, I guess this approach will receive far more attention than just another ho-hum eccie "flavor of the week" thread. Well played...
Lmao same thing happened to her and she described the guy. She didn't assume he was black she assumed it was the same guy and gave a description...Jesus man Originally Posted by PipelinerTx
But the Op doesnt even hide the fact she is NBA...
Only an idiot would assume it was the same guy

You mofos be so quick to grab your capes and hop in the phone booth to save these trollops
All for what?a chance at getting to pay them for sex?

Chilling
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Any guy that has a serious problem with it is probably trying to get one over on you. If it will ruin the mood for him, he should set it down in plain sight and then excuse himself to the bathroom to freshen up. Double win. He comes out all fresh and clean (yay!) and he didn't have to see you check the envelope. Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport
I do have a serious problem with those who count it in front of me and I have never stiffed anyone, it does spoil the mood for me so much so, that I wanna leave but the only thing keeping me there is the fact that I understand where they r coming from with their caution. Do it on my second visit if I give one and u will never see me again.

Now for the topic at hand, it is part of the risk u take with trust. I think someone already said it but ur screening should limit these types of experiences. Guyz like these come in all shapes, looks and sizes.