Donations BEFORE or AFTER The Session..

@jmoor, you kind of reminded me of something with the restaurant reference. When out to eat at a nice place, you always pay last, right? The waiter trusts that you will pay for your meal at the end of the experience and although yes, sometimes the waiter gets burned and does not get the payment, but that's usually due to lack of TCB skills and being too relaxed, right? I think the same applies here. If you are paying after the session, then there is some established trust. Plus, only a true dick-ass fuck boy would pull a scam to get some pussy, right?

My first provider had rules, in an envelope on the table, go shower and do not talk to me about it at ALL! OK, but since then I typically donate at exit...that helps me decide if I want to add to the donation or not...last time I played I added to the donation because it was a great session. If I pay first then that option is taken away.

Plus, only a true dick-ass fuck boy would pull a scam to get some pussy, right? Originally Posted by Angel Ryder

And there are none of those here, amirite?

Right!!!
... and I would ad ... whoever doesnt pay for a service or a meal is a thief and most likely the business owner will call the police to demand payment ...
Whenever you pick up your car at the dealership, tire shop, lube, you pay first and then they'll bring your car ...

ps ... are we trying to establish that the customer will decide the price according to the service?
Like ill order a $60 Lobster and if I dont like it or ate half, will only pay $30?
We always pay the tab and if we didnt like the restaurand we dont come back or we even write a review ...

My 2 cents

Trust is the fundamental issue with this. Each person wishes to protect themselves from possible issues. Sound screening form both sides should greatly reduce this as an issue. Ladies need to remember, not all money is good money. And guys need to remember strange, especially off BP brings extra risks of many kinds.

Personally, I prefer to pay at the end. Paying up front reduces the GFE part for me, while paying at the end helps with the transition back to reality. Works for me and its never been a issue I can think of. Though there was one time I was so overwhelmed with the session, I made it all the way to the door before remembering I had not left the donation. That ranked as one of my best sessions ever. Originally Posted by OldButStillGoing

Agree trust is the issue. I generally avoid those who request up front since I never pay anyone until they perform what I agreed to pay for- just good business policy. However I have done so when in discussion I suspect a Provider has been ripped off and John Henry is hollergh- forget your policy.

Then an old fart I have left without and made frantic return trips to correct.

Recognizing that in the heat of the moments, I do forget, I simply lay it down on entry. No more emergency return trips. Have I ever not paid for poor service in the Hobby- no.

Right!!!
... and I would ad ... whoever doesnt pay for a service or a meal is a thief and most likely the business owner will call the police to demand payment ...
Whenever you pick up your car at the dealership, tire shop, lube, you pay first and then they'll bring your car ... Originally Posted by DarthDVader

Yeah, I just think it's to a guys advantage to get it out of the way first
and have the ladies full attention. Just makes sense to me.

I have no issue placing it out with her watching me. I prefer that she does because, as you said, it will put her at ease and she can enjoy the date better.

@Angel Ryder, in that sense of trust you are right. All business owners "trust" that they will be paid for the service they provide just like all customers "trust" that they are going to get the services advertised. That doesn't always happen as you said. When I say trust I mean with anything other than the cash. If you are giving out personal info you better expect it's going to get exploited. I have seen ladies before and left something in their place only to have them drop off the face of the earth minutes after walking out the door. In the beginning I even gave a lady the donation first and had the deal changed so now I protect myself. I don't park where I'm told, I'm out of my car before anyone knows who I am and what I drive. Hell I even dated a provider for a while and never gave her my real name. Also I would never scam a lady but I wouldn't say I've NEVER tried to get something for nothing. Hell, even when I go out if I don't have to buy drinks and can get away with a little charm well.....that's the game right. We're all looking for a bargain as a customer and as a business owner, always looking to get the most out of our customers. That's just smart money on both sides of the transaction.

I guess some people never pay attention to alerts.
There have been guys that stuff the envelopes with
ones, use fake money, just walk out after without
paying, etc.

Some guys don't realize how much better their time might
be if they have a girls trust from the start.

Guys have been ripped off also, that is why you do your
research first. If a guy is wondering "is this girl going to
rip me off" then he has picked the wrong one in the first
place JMO Originally Posted by bojulay

Yes indeed there are Jackasses that try to play games with the fake money but I've always been able to tell. Of course when donations r giving in a envelope I pick it up glide through the bills for authenticity then we start. I'm very hard to get over

I haven't had a provider asked me for a donation upfront in a long time. Always wait to the end of the session. If someone were to ask me for it upfront I obviously would give it to her but it would probably be the last time I see her Originally Posted by txexetoo

Oh okay good to know.

That's your opinion. And like assholes everybody has one. My way works fine for me works fine for a lot of guys. Like I said if a provider wants the money upfront that's her prerogative. It's my prerogative not to see her. No harm no foul. It makes the whole process to businesslike. And I'm not seeing them to have a business transaction I'm seeing them to have a Girlfriend experience. Originally Posted by txexetoo

That's your opinion as well. If a guy decides not to see me so be it. I'm glad i made this thread so now u know how I roll .

Mark, your wrong about the le thing. No money has to change hands to get busted. Just makes it easier.

Because of my selection process and screening, i am comfortable with a provider and she with me before the session begins. I think the last time a provider asked me to pay upfront was over 4 years ago. I think a lot of that trust is based upon that process. I did give the donation to a repeat provider up front one time last year because of circumstances and ended up being ripped off.

But do what your comfortable with. Just be sure to let the client know before he gets there so there is no misunderstanding Originally Posted by OldButStillGoing

Glad I started this thread so all future clients will know how I do things!

OP quoted good business....what oil change place, restaurant, AC repair, lawn service, mechanic, hair salon etc, etc, etc has there hand out waiting for you to pay before they "wait" on you. If this is all about business then Pink Taco is right. All business owners assume the risk not the customer/client. I agree the ladies are in a vulnerable position but so is the person that borrowed 300,000 to open a pie shop so why would the ladies expect the customer to assume the risk for her "pie" shop?

If you are trusting anyone in this industry then you probably at some point are going to get burned. If everyone here doesn't realize that then maybe they haven't finished reading their fairytale/hobby instruction manual that says these ladies all love you because you have the biggest dick they have ever seen and can use it better than anyone they or their friends have had sex with and one day that "IOP" is going to turn into a full blown relationship that the two of you will ride off into the sunset living happily ever after.

I have met some great ladies in this hobby but lets not forget pussy is everywhere and we don't pay to play we pay you to leave with no strings attached.

I always pay last because if you did one hell of a job I'm going to make sure the donation reflects that just like I do when I am out to eat at a restaurant. But then again I guess there is a difference between Burger King and Nick and Sam's. Originally Posted by jmoor

On My prospective, I just won't totally be into it knowing I dont have my donations. There isn't any amount of reviews, ratings, compliments gonna make me be okay with that. I just met u, u just met me . let's do it my way or u can always find one who will ya know

My first provider had rules, in an envelope on the table, go shower and do not talk to me about it at ALL! OK, but since then I typically donate at exit...that helps me decide if I want to add to the donation or not...last time I played I added to the donation because it was a great session. If I pay first then that option is taken away. Originally Posted by beachcomber789

My lips just might make u rethink that. I'm very good and even though I get donations first u would WANT to tip after so DONT knock it till u tried it babes

Agree trust is the issue. I generally avoid those who request up front since I never pay anyone until they perform what I agreed to pay for- just good business policy. However I have done so when in discussion I suspect a Provider has been ripped off and John Henry is hollergh- forget your policy.

Then an old fart I have left without and made frantic return trips to correct.

Recognizing that in the heat of the moments, I do forget, I simply lay it down on entry. No more emergency return trips. Have I ever not paid for poor service in the Hobby- no. Originally Posted by doug_dfw

Then you will keep missing out then :/