"The problem with socialism is that eventuallyMaggy Thatcher, hmmm
you run out of other people's money."
- Margaret Thatcher Originally Posted by gfejunkie
Maggy Thatcher, hmmmAll that must have happened before she made that statement. She apparently learned her lesson, lol.
Decimated England's industy, leading to mass unemployment
Sponsored and was a major supporter of a social housing expansion, called the 'right to buy' program that led to a crisis still being felt today.
Do a little research before you just throw random quotes around that you think make you sound smart. Originally Posted by WombRaider
Talk about perfect timing:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/asia/c...ons/index.html
A massive explosion in a Chinese warehouse kills dozens (so far) and causes huge devastation.
This is what happens in socialist countries, Womby. Because they skimp on basic safety items in order to maximize economic growth and profits to be redistributed to their supporters.
What was that you were saying about socialism, mope? Originally Posted by ExNYer
Talk about perfect timing:indeed! let's go to the video shall we?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/asia/c...ons/index.html
A massive explosion in a Chinese warehouse kills dozens (so far) and causes huge devastation.
This is what happens in socialist countries, Womby. Because they skimp on basic safety items in order to maximize economic growth and profits to be redistributed to their supporters.
What was that you were saying about socialism, mope? Originally Posted by ExNYer
I have been to China and the air quality totally sucks - fucking commies.They don't have catalytic converters on their cars - the cheap fucks. Originally Posted by DSKso have i. it made my smoker's hack better!
You couldn't have picked a worse example.A socialist system is actually very compatible with a democratic nation.
"Because they skimp on basic safety items in order to maximize economic growth and profits to be redistributed to their supporters.".....TF does that even mean??
In a socialist system "basic safety items" would be given priority, because they affect the society a lot more than a "economic growth and profits". You're thinking capitalism.
basic safety. good point. see? china doesn't allow their kids into the cesspool with out proper flotation devices!
If you're talking about a governmental system where the government decides what social system works best for the economy, then you're thinking communism.
A socialist system is actually very compatible with a democratic nation. It's where we, the people, decide where our resources and money go. Not politicians.
To be clear, I'm not talking your average joe deciding how much to spend on military. I'm talking economists in charge of making spending decisions, scientists in charge of making decisions on climate change etc etc. That's how a perfect socialist system goes. No more spending trillions on a war that 90% of us don't agree with. Originally Posted by shanm
You couldn't have picked a worse example.More progressive fantasy. You keep imagining an ideal system in your mind and argue about THAT, rather than any real world system.
"Because they skimp on basic safety items in order to maximize economic growth and profits to be redistributed to their supporters.".....TF does that even mean??
In a socialist system "basic safety items" would be given priority, because they affect the society a lot more than a "economic growth and profits". You're thinking capitalism.
If you're talking about a governmental system where the government decides what social system works best for the economy, then you're thinking communism.
A socialist system is actually very compatible with a democratic nation. It's where we, the people, decide where our resources and money go. Not politicians.
To be clear, I'm not talking your average joe deciding how much to spend on military. I'm talking economists in charge of making spending decisions, scientists in charge of making decisions on climate change etc etc. That's how a perfect socialist system goes. No more spending trillions on a war that 90% of us don't agree with. Originally Posted by shanm
More progressive fantasy. You keep imagining an ideal system in your mind and argue about THAT, rather than any real world system.
This is PURE nonsense:
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In a socialist system "basic safety items" would be given priority, because they affect the society a lot more than a "economic growth and profits". You're thinking capitalism.
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Do you have ANY evidence to back that up?
In reality, daily experience tells us the exact opposite. The wealthy capitalist nations are far safer than any of the socialist nations (real world ones, not fantasy ones).
Read some newspapers.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
Hmmm any evidence....let's see, why don't I begin with the fact that you have a huge problem distinguishing between socialism and communism. They're not inter-changeable, no matter how much you'd like them to be, dummy. Look them up and get back to me.
Tell me something, if you took a great idea, and implemented it badly, who'd be to blame?
The idea? or you?
Pakistan is a democratic country with a capitalistic system in place. Look how well it's worked out for them.
Germany is a largely socialist ( and also democratic) country. Again, I say, look how well it's worked out for them.
No one system has a monopoly on anything. It's exactly the fact that dumb people believe that that half our problems remain unsolved. You, and many others of your ilk, cringe every time you hear the word socialism, without even understanding what it means.
Let's look at it on a micro level. "Public safety" you say? What's the deal with Obamacare being socialist again?
It's goal is to have everyone covered with health insurance.
Is that not a viable goal for the best country in the world to have?
The answer is only NO in a capitalist system, where the fact that you're paying slightly more so that the less fortunate can escape the underpinnings of an unfair system is considered highway robbery. Your patriotism ends where your pockets begin. Originally Posted by shanm
Hmmm any evidence....let's see, why don't I begin with the fact that you have a huge problem distinguishing between socialism and communism. They're not inter-changeable, no matter how much you'd like them to be, dummy. Look them up and get back to me.This is the thing I will never understand. We proclaim ourselves the greatest country in the history of the world, and yet we don't provide healthcare for our citizens. There's something inherently wrong with that. We talk about capitalism giving everyone the ability to chase the american dream, but we don't acknowledge that the underpinnings of that capitalism and of that democracy are not level for all citizens. So we are NOT giving each citizen a fair shake and chance at the american dream. We are lying to ourselves. What good is that? In the end we only hurt the thing we claim to love, our country.
Tell me something, if you took a great idea, and implemented it badly, who'd be to blame?
The idea? or you?
Pakistan is a democratic country with a capitalistic system in place. Look how well it's worked out for them.
Germany is a largely socialist ( and also democratic) country. Again, I say, look how well it's worked out for them.
No one system has a monopoly on anything. It's exactly the fact that dumb people believe that that half our problems remain unsolved. You, and many others of your ilk, cringe every time you hear the word socialism, without even understanding what it means.
Let's look at it on a micro level. "Public safety" you say? What's the deal with Obamacare being socialist again?
It's goal is to have everyone covered with health insurance.
Is that not a viable goal for the best country in the world to have?
The answer is only NO in a capitalist system, where the fact that you're paying slightly more so that the less fortunate can escape the underpinnings of an unfair system is considered highway robbery. Your patriotism ends where your pockets begin. Originally Posted by shanm
oh you are quick to jump on a pole .. er post aren't you?Riding down the 405? Mostly sitting still, with intermittent movement. And I still don't see what your point is about us having catalytic converters and they don't. Are you saying they aren't communist ENOUGH?
at least you can enjoy some Cali blue sky while riding down the 405. fuckhead Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
