should wealthy Americans be allowed to collect Social Security?

1967: LBJ and the democrats in Congress folded the SS trust fund into the general budget to hid the cost of the Vietnam War. For all the idiots who talk about how much Iraq cost or how money was wasted, here is your classic example of corruption and you should be pissed....but you're not. They are your people who did it. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You are 100% correct but you omit what Ronnie did in 1986!





http://www.examiner.com/article/8-re...f-our-lifetime

. Reagan raided the Social Security Trust fund -
With Ronald Reagan cutting taxes so drastically, the U.S government was beginning to starve....
....Listening to Alan Greenspan and other advisers, Ronald Reagan raided the Social Security Trust Fund and replaced it with glorified IOU's. Ronald Reagan raised the Social Security tax rate which did add to the revenue, but because there is a cap on Social Security, currently no income over $113,700 is taxed for Social Security, the wealthy didn't feel the tax increase and the pain was pushed to the middle and lower classes.

Let also say you make $400K a year. That's Obama's definition of "wealthy." So receiving that extra $24K a year is going to be taxed at 40%
. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Most folks do not make 400k a year in retirement. In fact most folks do not make 400k a year ever.

People are living longer, the program needs tweaking but like I said earlier, all you do by tweaking it is having more IOU's being left in there for our retirement.

$400K a year isn't wealthy? What's your definition of 'wealthy'? Originally Posted by WombRaider

400k a year is YOUR income, isn't it? did you NOT post you were in the top tax bracket of 39% (rounded down) ???

your dumb arkisaw ass didn't know what the top tax bracket was i until posted it.

I'm in the top tax bracket. Nice try, cocksucker. And I've said it before, I don't hate capitalism, but it's not built for longevity. Originally Posted by WombRaider

your words. so post in this thread again that fiction that you live in where you make 400k a year.

my next poll will be "Do you believe womby makes 400k a year?"
want to see those pol results? i would.

400k a year is YOUR income, isn't it? did you NOT post you were in the top tax bracket of 39% (rounded down) ???

. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Waco to be fair all womb commented on was that 400k was sorta , kinda wealthy.

That don't mean you are worth 5 million (your actual wealth hypothetical threshold)

But very few people over 65 make 400k in salary, they make it in dividends and investment income....which is not subject to SS tax.

some of this was the result of my latest "notice" from those wonderful tards in the GOV telling how much i am due at full retirement age. just got it a few weeks back. i'm sure all of us get them yes?

interestingly if i go out to Yahoo Finance and use their calculator to estimate my SS benefits, i get

http://finance.yahoo.com/calculator/retirement/ret04/

NRADesired Retirement AgeEstimated Monthly Benefit (today)Estimated Yearly Benefit (today)Estimated Yearly Benefit (retirement)
You 67 67 $2,701 $32,408 $44,675

according to my document .. it's $2,503 a month. Hey GOV .. WHERE'S MY extra $200 a month?? Why .. thats one AMPgirl session a month!! How do you expect me to survive in retirement with out THAT!!!!

Waco to be fair all womb commented on was that 400k was sorta , kinda wealthy.

That don't mean you are worth 5 million (your actual wealth hypothetical threshold)

But very few people over 65 make 400k in salary, they make it in dividends and investment income....which is not subject to SS tax. Originally Posted by WTF

No. he posted he was in the top tax bracket. which means he DOES makes 400k a year. or .. he isn't in the top tax bracket. which is it?

2015 tax brackets (for taxes due April 15, 2016)

Tax rate Single filers Married filing jointly or qualifying widow/widower Married filing separately Head of household
10% Up to $9,225 Up to $18,450 Up to $9,225 Up to $13,150
15% $9,226 to $37,450 $18,451 to $74,900 $9,226 to $37,450 $13,151 to $50,200
25% $37,451 to $90,750 $74,901 to $151,200 $37,451 to $75,600 $50,201 to $129,600
28% $90,751 to $189,300 $151,201 to $230,450 $75,601 to $115,225 $129,601 to $209,850
33% $189,301 to $411,500 $230,451 to $411,500 $115,226 to $205,750 $209,851 to $411,500
35% $411,501 to $413,200 $411,501 to $464,850 $205,751 to $232,425 $411,501 to $439,000
39.6% $413,201 or more $464,851 or more $232,426 or more $439,001 or more

. Hey GOV .. WHERE'S MY extra $200 a month?? Why .. thats one AMPgirl session a month!! How do you expect me to survive in retirement with out THAT!!!!

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Hot damn, I had to fly to Bangkok to get one that looked like that! ....and you can get two for that price!

Hot damn, I had to fly to Bangkok to get one that looked like that! ....and you can get two for that price! Originally Posted by WTF

capitalism at work! two for one sale!

fuck it! i plan to retire a rich capitalist horndog! THREESOME! for the price of one.



notice the babe on the right? hey EVA you chimp .. i SAID THE RIGHT! got it?!?!?!

she looks familiar .. she might be Asian Wonder Woman!

400k a year is YOUR income, isn't it? did you NOT post you were in the top tax bracket of 39% (rounded down) ???

your dumb arkisaw ass didn't know what the top tax bracket was i until posted it.



your words. so post in this thread again that fiction that you live in where you make 400k a year.

my next poll will be "Do you believe womby makes 400k a year?"
want to see those pol results? i would. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

It's actually 39.6. And I'm not really sure WTF it has to do with what I said, other than to again illustrate for everyone just how goddamn dumb you are. You made the point that $400K a year was Obama's definition of 'wealthy'. I simply asked what your definition of it was, if it's not that, what is it? $400K is wealthy to MOST people, over 90 percent of the people in this country, so why is it so crazy, and necessary to put quotations around 'wealthy', when you reference that as Obama's definition of wealthy. To most people in this country, they would agree with him.

PS - I have people who file my paperwork and take care of my taxes, shitass. I pay them to worry about shit, so I don't have to. Do you think I'm sitting around doing Turbotax

fuck it! i plan to retire a rich capitalist horndog! THREESOME! for the price of one.



notice the babe on the right? hey EVA you chimp .. i SAID THE RIGHT! got it?!?!?!

she looks familiar .. she might be Asian Wonder Woman!

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That's gonna get woomby running crying to the mods about scantily clad women being posted on here when no one comments in a positive way about the pictures of his Daddy / brother, Momma / SEEster, or any of the pictures of the gay pride parades where he does his " service" ON his country. Just can't make that eunuch happy !
BTW, wonder if those AMPS could be persuaded to offer a "repeat" customer a package deal to salve the gub'mint STEALING that 200 dolla ? Tell them AMP manager that it's way to say FU to the Federales AND get a steady customer. ( so long as they DON'T hire woomby's Momma / SEEster ! ) They probably don't like those gub'mint thieves anymore than us mongers ! Can't hurt to ask ! IJS......

That's gonna get woomby running crying to the mods about scantily clad women being posted on here when no one comments in a positive way about the pictures of his Daddy / brother, Momma / SEEster, or any of the pictures of the gay pride parades where he does his " service" ON his country. Just can't make that eunuch happy !
BTW, wonder if those AMPS could be persuaded to offer a "repeat" customer a package deal to salve the gub'mint STEALING that 200 dolla ? Tell them AMP manager that it's way to say FU to the Federales AND get a steady customer. ( so long as they DON'T hire woomby's Momma / SEEster ! ) They probably don't like those gub'mint thieves anymore than us mongers ! Can't hurt to ask ! IJS...... Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

i could tell you a story about my LAST (and i mean the LAST) trip to Boy's Town in Nuevo Laredo.



she was a cheap whore. the price was right! where's Bob Barker when you need him?

after THAT debacle i only ventured north to AMPville.

speaking of eunuchs ... have you ever seen a nutless fuck more gay that this?





nope. didn't think so!

It's actually 39.6. And I'm not really sure WTF it has to do with what I said, other than to again illustrate for everyone just how goddamn dumb you are. You made the point that $400K a year was Obama's definition of 'wealthy'. I simply asked what your definition of it was, if it's not that, what is it? $400K is wealthy to MOST people, over 90 percent of the people in this country, so why is it so crazy, and necessary to put quotations around 'wealthy', when you reference that as Obama's definition of wealthy. To most people in this country, they would agree with him.

PS - I have people who file my paperwork and take care of my taxes, shitass. I pay them to worry about shit, so I don't have to. Do you think I'm sitting around doing Turbotax Originally Posted by WombRaider

You ought to be paying someone to write for your illiterate, no spelling, lying liberal ass, THOUGHT woomby THOUGHT !!!

You ought to be paying someone to write for your illiterate, no spelling, lying liberal ass, THOUGHT woomby THOUGHT !!! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

Another spelling bee champ cant debate the topic, this isn't English class boy.