US politics circa 2011

Okay a majority on a population weighted basis. happy? Originally Posted by pjorourke

Not even that because you have states that would get fewer elecotral votes on a population weighed basis (at the very least ND, SD, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming)

Yeah, but it wont work when he gets a HHS bill that has no money for implementing Obamacare and vetoing it doesnt shut down anything anyone gives a shit about. The mistake Newt made was trying to force Slick Willie to sign an Omnibus bill. Divide and conquer baby!

Its going to be like watching a 3 dimensional chess match. Originally Posted by pjorourke

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip.

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip. Originally Posted by discreetgent

Obamacare did not help the Dems in the last election, so obstructing legislation the voters – by their votes asked for – will turn things around for the Dems?

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip. Originally Posted by discreetgent

And how is he going to get that through the House -- where any money bill has to start. He doesn't even have control of the Senate -- despite ostensibly having 54 votes.

Not even that because you have states that would get fewer elecotral votes on a population weighed basis (at the very least ND, SD, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming) Originally Posted by discreetgent

I didn't say it was a "uniform population weight".

BTW, London has inspired me to hit 2K

Obamacare did not help the Dems in the last election, so obstructing legislation the voters – by their votes asked for – will turn things around for the Dems? Originally Posted by I B Hankering

What really hurt the dems was jobs, jobs, jobs more than anything else. I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded.

I didn't say it was a "uniform population weight". Originally Posted by pjorourke

Your reaching, even for you

Your reaching, even for you Originally Posted by discreetgent

Thats you're

What really hurt the dems was jobs, jobs, jobs more than anything else. I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded. Originally Posted by discreetgent

It's posturing, but the Reps are going to make sure the POTUS paints himself into a corner before the 2012 election.

I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded. Originally Posted by discreetgent

Of course he won't. This is just another opportunity to get those sorry bastards on record as supporting that PoS.

That and it is satisfying a campaign promise to vote to overturn it. It further illustrates what is needed to change to get rid of it.

Thats you're Originally Posted by pjorourke

???? Even rcaso had better grammar

BTW, London has inspired me to hit 2K Originally Posted by pjorourke

Go, OJ, go.....

Of course he won't. This is just another opportunity to get those sorry bastards on record as supporting that PoS.

That and it is satisfying a campaign promise to vote to overturn it. It further illustrates what is needed to change to get rid of it. Originally Posted by pjorourke

All of which leads me to believe goal #3 (no re-election of a Dem Prez) is REALLY goal #1. To return to my original point...even if Republicans HONESTLY believe that is what's best for us all...it give me a big ole case of the "sads" as it is says two more years of fiddle-fuck (until THEY can take REAL control and SAVE the rest of us from ourselves) is preferable to actually trying to accomplish something positive in the meantime...

All of which leads me to believe goal #3 (no re-election of a Dem Prez) is REALLY goal #1. To return to my original point...even if Republicans HONESTLY believe that is what's best for us all...it give me a big ole case of the "sads" as it is says two more years of fiddle-fuck (until THEY can take REAL control and SAVE the rest of us from ourselves) is preferable to actually trying to accomplish something positive in the meantime... Originally Posted by Sisyphus

And what happens if they fail ...........

And what happens if they fail ........... Originally Posted by discreetgent

Absolutely NOTHING...or...Rome burns....take your pick....