Chicago Cop Indicted For 1st Degree Murder......

The "bottom line" is really a lower threshhold than the above ^^^^^.

At least in Texas (not bothering to research Illinois, which is also a Model Penal Code state), the case law is rather clear that what the officer believes he sees at the time of the incident is sufficient, and if it later proves that the item (a good example is a water gun) was in fact not "operable" as a "deadly weapon" then the officer legally used deadly force from the subjective view of the officer he did not pull a water gun ... and not a bunch of bitches on a hooker board or liberal whiners on TV.

If one doesn't want to get shot .. once or 16 times .. don't pull a knife on an officer you are mischaracterizing what happened. The knife was already pulled. . (or anyone else for that matter) .... or anything that could look like it could be a deadly weapon ... open empty hands ... "up in the air over the head"?????? Originally Posted by LexusLover

So you are saying you think the Cop was justified in the shooting? Based on what you have seen and know now. Of course things could change. It sure sounds like you would exonerate the Cop already.

I mean , fuck , we do not need you to tell us it is a bad idea to take PCP and run around the streets with a knife.

But that does not automatically mean a Cop can shoot you 16 times.

WTF moves the information around to make himself appear "correct" ....

... I think he's been studying Obaminable.....He's certainly Obaminable's parrot.

Now whether he's his bitch or not, I would vote on him being Michelle's bitch. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Were you and gnadfly in prison together? Who talks about men being other men's bitches other than convicts?

So you are saying you think the Cop was justified in the shooting? Originally Posted by WTF

You either can't comprehend or don't want to comprehend. Which is it?

Who talks about men being other men's bitches other than convicts? Originally Posted by WTF

People who are not convicts (or former convicts)! You are dense, aren't you?

You either can't comprehend or don't want to comprehend. Which is it? Originally Posted by LexusLover

I know when someone is stating a case for justifiably shooting someone... So you think the shooting was justified? Get on the record LL. Just venture a guess. Right now, from what little we know, I say the officer was not justified. I have the nuts to say "From what I know now...."

You like to ridicule and yet venture nothing.

People who are not convicts (or former convicts)! You are dense, aren't you? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Homo's talk about other men being their bitches. Homo's like you and gnadfly!

....going to dance around the street holding a knife acting like an idiot chances are you 're going to get shot by police.
Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

The "rest of the story" is seeping out. It is reported by a liberal TV network that he had been in a shopping area flashing his knife and entered a couple of businesses doing the same, which generated the call to the police, who arrived to make contact with him and he "stabbed" the windshield of an occupied patrol unit and then stabbed the tire of another one ... PRIOR TO THE VIDEO ... one can look at the video in the beginning .. he was NOT walking away from the officer ... he was walking away from the camera. In the video he is facing the officer when the first shots were fired, because he went back on his butt.

Let the Judge decide. He waived a jury.

WWIII Originally Posted by WTF

don't laugh. there's a real possibility of that and not for the issue with the cop in Chicago.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/rus...ar-war-likely/

Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst

don't laugh. there's a real possibility of that and not for the issue with the cop in Chicago.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/rus...ar-war-likely/

Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Hi, JACK!

Can you try speaking English? You were in another country and back and there were Christians in a target rich environment. Wtf does that have to do with you acting as if folks should not eat, shop go to sporting events?

You're an agent of ISIS and are not even aware you are being manipulated by them.

Jesus LL start speaking English and enough of the gibberish. I know you do not want to make a definitive statement where your feet can be held to the fire. Do you think ISIS is coming to blow you up? Simple question. Originally Posted by WTF

He was in another county not another country!!! Travis County, for instance, is where Assup fucks trafficked Mexican slaves. That county is in our country!! Get it???

Just because someone insists on a simple answer doesn't imply or create the conditions for a simple answer. The world can be very complex, and simpletons don't always understand that!

Hi, JACK! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

bye, jackoff.

fyi i'll post that to the thread about Turkey, are you happy happy now?

Just because someone insists on a simple answer doesn't imply or create the conditions for a simple answer. The world can be very complex, and simpletons don't always understand that! Originally Posted by DSK

WTF's "world" is always simple. In fact it is real simple. Like 1 + 2 = 2.

He enjoys watching himself talk! He also apparently snoops in my closets.

WTF's "world" is always simple. In fact it is real simple. Like 1 + 2 = 2.

He enjoys watching himself talk! He also apparently snoops in my closets. Originally Posted by LexusLover

come on LL, give WTF credit for being smart enough to know that's really 1 + 2 = - 2.
i mean, he knows his IQ doesn't he?

The "rest of the story" is seeping out. It is reported by a liberal TV network that he had been in a shopping area flashing his knife and entered a couple of businesses doing the same, which generated the call to the police, who arrived to make contact with him and he "stabbed" the windshield of an occupied patrol unit and then stabbed the tire of another one ... PRIOR TO THE VIDEO ... one can look at the video in the beginning .. he was NOT walking away from the officer ... he was walking away from the camera. In the video he is facing the officer when the first shots were fired, because he went back on his butt.

Let the Judge decide. He waived a jury. Originally Posted by LexusLover

It wouldn't be such a bad thing if later this shooting is justified. I am just concerned about the number of shots that were fired after the suspect went down and was no longer a threat. Below is a Dash cam video of a Seattle Police Officer shooting a knife wielding suspect. Notice how the suspect rushes hard at the Officer. The Officer retreats just to draw his weapon and get some distance and fires THREE fatal shots. To me this is a text book shooting. Skip the beginning if you want and just go to 1.20 about the time the altercation begins.

Jim

https://youtu.be/6g3oPgJYeDU

The "rest of the story" is seeping out. It is reported by a liberal TV network that he had been in a shopping area flashing his knife and entered a couple of businesses doing the same, which generated the call to the police, who arrived to make contact with him and he "stabbed" the windshield of an occupied patrol unit and then stabbed the tire of another one ... PRIOR TO THE VIDEO ... one can look at the video in the beginning .. he was NOT walking away from the officer ... he was walking away from the camera. In the video he is facing the officer when the first shots were fired, because he went back on his butt.

Let the Judge decide. He waived a jury. Originally Posted by LexusLover

well that might change the narrative yeah? i heard some reports about an incident at a business but not about attacking police cars. that indicates violent prior intend doesn't it?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...124-story.html

this article does mention him slashing a tire on a squad car. it also mentions that the responders didn't have tasers and were attempting to contain McDonald with their vehicles until officers with tasers could arrive.

and last, once again it mentions the man was high on {forbidden subject} .. that really changes the narrative as the unmentioned {forbidden subject} is well known to cause exactly the kind of behavior i.e. irrational actions and unable to comply to commands by police.

whoever the officer hires as his attorney, if he/she is worth their law degree they'd have experts hit on this fact hard. it's the likely reason McDonald acted as he did.

so .. having attempted to give the victim the benefit of the doubt with just the short video clip to go on, as details emerge i'm going to flip my opinion.

after almost ten minutes of repeated aggressive behavior including stabbing at the squad cars and the actions of a person on {forbidden subject} i'm flipping my opinion that this man posed too great a risk to both the police and civilians, time to contain this man with less than lethal force had run out and they had to act.