Mass Shooting in Orlando

Yes. Chung probably meant more guards. And really, a few people carrying (like the designated driver or something) might not be terrible. Studies have shown that an armed society is always a safer society. Most people who have CHLs are very well-behaved and understand/respect the law. I carry and I am extremely cautious of how I treat people when I am armed.

There is a political solution to solve the problem with Muslims -- or at least, begin a path, and that is to start monitoring people who show signs of radicalization. People need to call out Muslims if they are suspicious. However, with politics the way they are NOW, nobody is going to do that for fear of appearing "racist." (Muslim is not a fucking race) Just like Trump said, people need to be vigilant. The Bernadido shooters were identified as suspicious, but the people were too afraid to report it.

We need to stop being politically correct. Being a racist sucks, but dead people is the worst.

This is why Trump WILL NOT become President. Originally Posted by Aoi

Fixed it for you!

Fixed it for you! Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

Good thing, Trump isn't a racist. And Muslim isn't a race.

Because there are over 1,000,000,000 ( I used the 0s for effect ) Muslims that believe in a religion in which their scriptures literally tell them to chop off heads of "infidels." This is backed by history and it's happening now. They are not psychopaths. They are of sound-mind and they are killing because they believe it to be correct.

Oh, and that's not even getting into genital mutilation, honor killings, female discrimination and legal rape.

I really hate being right.... Originally Posted by Aoi

I am not a muslim so I won't defend the Koran, but you are being very deceitful if you don't think the Bible has many violent verses where innocent people are being killed: There's even a verse I quoted talking about ripping open a pregnant woman.

Now since you are this God fearing Christian do you believe and support all those verses?

10. 2 Kings 2:23-24

He [Elisha] went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. (NRSV)



9. Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)



8. 2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)



7. Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)



6. 1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)



5. Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)



4. Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)



3. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)



2. 1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)



1. Hosea 13:16

Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV)

Because there are over 1,000,000,000 ( I used the 0s for effect ) Muslims that believe in a religion in which their scriptures literally tell them to chop off heads of "infidels." This is backed by history and it's happening now. They are not psychopaths. They are of sound-mind and they are killing because they believe it to be correct.

Oh, and that's not even getting into genital mutilation, honor killings, female discrimination and legal rape.

I really hate being right.... Originally Posted by Aoi

And what of the millions of Muslims who were born in this country and the Muslims who have served and fought for this country? What about them? Also what about the Muslims in Afghanistan who have helped American troops against the Taliban at great risk to their own lives? We have our own religious fanatics in this country (does Westboro Baptist Church ring any bells?)

Fanaticism is fanaticism, no matter the reason. And taking it out on a race, a religion or other generalized category because of the actions of a few (relatively speaking), is against everything that this country was founded for. People are responsible for their actions, not guns, nor religion.

Also, for clarification's sake, I believe in the first and second amendments equally. I believe in the freedom of every American citizen to say and believe what they choose no matter how stupid and ridiculous it is, and the right to defend that freedom from anyone who chooses to take it away.

I am not a muslim so I won't defend the Koran, but you are being very deceitful if you don't think the Bible has many violent verses where innocent people are being killed: There's even a verse I quoted talking about ripping open a pregnant woman.

Now since you are this God fearing Christian do you believe and support all those verses?

10. 2 Kings 2:23-24

He [Elisha] went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. (NRSV)



9. Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)



8. 2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)



7. Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)



6. 1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)



5. Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)



4. Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)



3. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)



2. 1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)



1. Hosea 13:16

Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV) Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

You do realize that's Judaism, right? And that Jesus actually condemned the Jewish pharisees for looking down on people who acted like that, right?

Instead of cherrypicking verses, how about you actually understand the differences between religions?

Knowledge is power. And you don't have enough of it.

Islam is an evil fucking religion and history has, time and time again, shown this.

Aoi tell me how any of those verses I just quoted are any different than muslim scripture that says cut off the heads of infidels- there are verses n the Bible where 10,000 men were thrown off a cliff- Moses order the killing of people? look at this verse from Samuel :. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'

Can you please in your Christian heart tell me why they would put to death Children and infants? What did the animals do to deserved to be slaughtered?

You do realize that's Judaism, right? And that Jesus actually condemned the Jewish pharisees for looking down on people who acted like that, right?

Instead of cherrypicking verses, how about you actually understand the differences between religions?

Knowledge is power. And you don't have enough of it.

Islam is an evil fucking religion and history has, time and time again, shown this. Originally Posted by Aoi

You freaking idiot- it's in your Bible- open up your Bible those Chapters are in your Bible. Also, you do know Jesus was a jew right? He practiced Judaism not Christianity?
The Christian Bible starts with Genesis and ends with Book of Revelations so don't tell me those verses are not part of Christianity- don't weasel your way out of it, but since you say it's Judaism- are you now saying Jews are terrorist or they follow a violent religion?

And what of the millions of Muslims who were born in this country and the Muslims who have served and fought for this country? Originally Posted by Tx Noob

Yes. They're called Muslims who have assimilated. In the Middle East, where Islam is the dominant religion and there is Sharia Law across the board, how often do you hear of civility like the Muslims here? None.

What about them? Also what about the Muslims in Afghanistan who have helped American troops against the Taliban at great risk to their own lives?

What about them? They're the overwhelmingly small minority. They're also tribal beliefs and customs as well as not supporting the Muhommed-is-all tenant that every other Muslim believes.

We have our own religious fanatics in this country (does Westboro Baptist Church ring any bells?)

Right, because some ass holes calling gay people fags is the same as killing them in a club and tossing them off buildings, right?

Fanaticism is fanaticism, no matter the reason. And taking it out on a race, a religion or other generalized category because of the actions of a few (relatively speaking), is against everything that this country was founded for. People are responsible for their actions, not guns, nor religion.

Muslim. is. not. a. race.

Why are people so unable to understand this? An Asian guy can be a Muslim. So can a white guy. A black guy. Whatever.

You do realize that's Judaism, right? And that Jesus actually condemned the Jewish pharisees for looking down on people who acted like that, right?

Instead of cherrypicking verses, how about you actually understand the differences between religions?

Knowledge is power. And you don't have enough of it.

Islam is an evil fucking religion and history has, time and time again, shown this. Originally Posted by Aoi

I don't give a rats ass what you think about Islam I am not a muslim, but will you admit Judaism is an evil religion? That was just a sample of verses I quoted - those were verses that Jesus would have known about since they make up books from the Torah- again Jesus and his disciples were Jews- they were not Christians- they practiced based off the books of the Torah.

You freaking idiot- it's in your Bible- open up your Bible those Chapters are in your Bible. Also, you do know Jesus was a jew right? He practiced Judaism not Christianity?
The Christian Bible starts with Genesis and ends with Book of Revelations so don't tell me those verses are not part of Christianity- don't weasel your way out of it, but since you say it's Judaism- are you now saying Jews are terrorist or they follow a violent religion? Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

If Jesus practiced Judaism, then why did he allow people to work on the Sabbath, when Jewish pharisees didn't allow that? if Jesus practiced Judaism, why did he allow people to eat pork, not stone people for adultery, hang out with the dregs of society and so on?

The Christian Bible is one half Judaism. From Genesis to Malachi is Judaism.

Matthew to Revelation is Christianity.

I never said Jews are a terrorist. When did Jews go around bombing buildings and killing people in gay night clubs?

Again, you really need to do your fucking research.

Yes. They're called Muslims who have assimilated. In the Middle East, where Islam is the dominant religion and there is Sharia Law across the board, how often do you hear of civility like the Muslims here? None.




What about them? They're the overwhelmingly small minority. They're also tribal beliefs and customs as well as not supporting the Muhommed-is-all tenant that every other Muslim believes.



Right, because some ass holes calling gay people fags is the same as killing them in a club and tossing them off buildings, right?





Muslim. is. not. a. race.

Why are people so unable to understand this? An Asian guy can be a Muslim. So can a white guy. A black guy. Whatever. Originally Posted by Aoi

AOI are you going to denounce Judaism or what? Those were some very sickening and cruel verses
- but be careful because if you denounce Judaism you are basically going to denounce the religion of Jesus- but you can't have it both ways.

I don't give a rats ass what you think about Islam I am not a muslim, but will you admit Judaism is an evil religion? That was just a sample of verses I quoted - those were verses that Jesus would have known about since they make up books from the Torah- again Jesus and his disciples were Jews- they were not Christians- they practiced based off the books of the Torah. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

I don't agree with the laws of the Jewish scriptures/Tora, but I also don't see Jews going around and slaughtering gay people in a club, flying airplanes into buildings, hanging people for thinking differently ,burning people alive and chopping off heads, among other things.

If Jesus and the disciples practiced Judaism, they wouldn't have been able to do any of the things they were able to do. And they wouldn't acknowledge Jesus as the Son of Man.

Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Son. The disciples, and later on, Christians, would acknowledge this as Christianity.

Again, knowledge. You have none.

Double post. Sorry

AOI are you going to denounce Judaism or what? Those were some very sickening and cruel verses
- but be careful because if you denounce Judaism you are basically going to denounce the religion of Jesus- but you can't have it both ways. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

hey Luke. When was the last time you heard of Jews or people in Israel chopping off heads, mutilating pregnant women, raping people and so on, like the OT states? When was the last time you see Barbarism like you do with Muslims?

I already said I don't agree with Jews, however, considering they don't go around doing said things, there's nothing to really denounce.

Jesus didn't practice Judaism. Jesus actually condemned Jewish pharisees. Again, READ.

If Jesus practiced Judaism, then why did he allow people to work on the Sabbath, when Jewish pharisees didn't allow that? if Jesus practiced Judaism, why did he allow people to eat pork, not stone people for adultery, hang out with the dregs of society and so on?

The Christian Bible is one half Judaism. From Genesis to Malachi is Judaism.

Matthew to Revelation is Christianity.

I never said Jews are a terrorist. When did Jews go around bombing buildings and killing people in gay night clubs?

Again, you really need to do your fucking research. Originally Posted by Aoi

You dumb ignorant fuck- that's the reason why many Phairesses didn't like him- Jesus clearly followed Jewish law and customs- First of all- where did Jesus allow people to eat pork- quote the exact verse please. He didn't allow people to stone people because the accusers were sinners also- remember Jesus saying."He who is amongst you cast the first stone...." He basically were telling the people go ahead and stone her, but let the person among you who is not also a sinner throw the first stone.
Matthew to Revelation is not Christianity- in fact Christianity doesn't start until Acts- Christianity is basically the epistles and teachings of the Apostle Paul- which is the main reason why you have the split between Catholics and Protestants-the majority of what Christians follow come from Paul's teachings. Go back to Sunday School pal.