Your Expectations For The Trump Administration

Trump did not disappoint, he built no bridges or soothed any hurt feelings. Just kept on insulting with his acceptance speech. Originally Posted by wordup666
At least with Trump you know where you stand. If you felt insulted use that as an indicator that you need to work on a few things.


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Trump just told the CIA he might invade Iraq and seize their oil fields.
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Trump just told the CIA he might invade Iraq and seize their oil fields. Originally Posted by BigLouie
No, he didn't!

If you weren't a LIAR you'd have nothing to post!
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What he said was: Now I said it for economic reasons, but if you think about, Mike, if we kept the oil we would probably wouldn’t have ISIS, because that’s where they made their money in the first place. So we should have kept the oil.

But okay. Maybe we’ll have another chance.


He is implying he will go back in. It is worth noting that Trump seems to think that oil is a fixed thing you can just lift out of there. To take the oil you have to take control of the pumping and distribution and maintain control which IMHO would mean never ending war in Iraq because At some point the people of Iraq would want their control of their oil fields back. And in case you and Trump missed this the war was to free the people of Iraq from a tyrant not come in and plunder their resources
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What he said was: Now I said it for economic reasons, but if you think about, Mike, if we kept the oil we would probably wouldn’t have ISIS, because that’s where they made their money in the first place. So we should have kept the oil.

But okay. Maybe we’ll have another chance.


He is implying he will go back in. Originally Posted by BigLouie
No! That's your desired "interpretation" to fit your agenda.

aka FAKE NEWS!

In other words: You trying to read his mind.

Give it up! Surely you're not going to post this shit for 8 more years!
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It is worth noting that Trump seems to think that oil is a fixed thing you can just lift out of there. Originally Posted by BigLouie
.... "seems to think" ..... give it a rest.

Do you honestly believe that Trump doesn't know how to extract oil from the ground? If you claim he doesn't know, then you are either just making up shit that fits your "agenda" or you are one of the most dumbest posters on here!

And frankly I don't believe you are dumb. Misguided, but not dumb.
.... "seems to think" ..... give it a rest.

Do you honestly believe that Trump doesn't know how to extract oil from the ground? If you claim he doesn't know, then you are either just making up shit that fits your "agenda" or you are one of the most dumbest posters on here!

And frankly I don't believe you are dumb. Misguided, but not dumb. Originally Posted by LexusLover
And even if Trump doesn't, ya wanna bet Rex Tillerson MIGHT know a WEE but about getting it done ?
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.... "seems to think" ..... give it a rest.

Do you honestly believe that Trump doesn't know how to extract oil from the ground? If you claim he doesn't know, then you are either just making up shit that fits your "agenda" or you are one of the most dumbest posters on here!

And frankly I don't believe you are dumb. Misguided, but not dumb. Originally Posted by LexusLover
Nah, he's both. Does the same stupid posts about sports.
Nah, he's both. Does the same stupid posts about sports. Originally Posted by bambino
So he's as " knowledgable " as assup the barrow pig is about NOTHING ?
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And even if Trump doesn't, ya wanna bet Rex Tillerson MIGHT know a WEE but about getting it done ? Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
Well, plan B as a response was to lean on my knowledge and understanding of Trump's attitude toward building tall structures, as well as some familiarity of the process usually employed for commercial development of properties, which is one reason I felt comfortable voting for the Man amidst a storm of ridiculous comments about his "lack of experience" since customarily developers in major commercial buildings rely HEAVILY on the expertise of others to not only "pencil out" the details, but manage and oversee the mundane, day-to-day tasks of directing others to "put the pieces together" in a manner that assures it will not fall down or collapse without some unforeseen force that was not factored into the engineering specifications that began the planning and implementation of the project on the selected ground site. It was also my understanding that Mr. Trump customarily visited job sites (like he did at the CIA BTW) and talked to the "hands on" folks, which included the ditch diggers, welders, carpenters, and other "mechanics" dealing with the day-to-day construction of the project. He finishes a high % of his projects I believe ... domestically AND IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

The duffus who just vacated the People's House never built a fucking thing in his life, except a huge debt for the U.S. taxpayers, and the only "community organizing" he did was BEGIN a project of removing and replacing insulation in public housing, which he NEVER FINISHED by replacing the removed insulation ... leaving the tenants without insulation in the winter! Sound familiar?
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My expectation is that we can now grab the pussies of any republican woman that voted for Trump, right? That's around 25 million women. I mean, they know he thinks grabbing their pussies is fine, so clearly they are fine with it too.

So, if you republican men here could hook us up and tell us where your wives work, we can start the fun. Because clearly your wives are sluts that like a man that grabs pussies....
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My expectation is that we can now grab the pussies of any republican woman that voted for Trump, right? That's around 25 million women. I mean, they know he thinks grabbing their pussies is fine, so clearly they are fine with it too.

So, if you republican men here could hook us up and tell us where your wives work, we can start the fun. Because clearly your wives are sluts that like a man that grabs pussies....
Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

Only if your expectation includes the concession that dim-retard women who voted for the rapist enabler are fine and dandy with submitting to sexual assault and rape, Ass-sloth.
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My expectations:
-GDP growth will reach 5% by end of 4 years
-Fed Interest rate goes up 2%
-Major US Market Indexes up 25% Originally Posted by gnadfly
There is a great article in the Wall Street Journal that explains why your exceptions will have a hard time coming true. But before I start note that you mentioned the Fed raises the interest rate 2%. Everyone in this section was saying the markets went up because the US was basically printing money and keeping interest rates at zero (0) so how will raising the rate 2% going to help the markets, wouldn't it make the markets go down? Anyway here are some thoughts from the article.

Through his last full day as president on Thursday, Mr. Obama oversaw a 166% gain in the S&P 500. Shares went from being dirt cheap to richly valued. The S&P traded at 11 times expected earnings in when Mr. Obama took office. Now its forward price/earnings ratio is 17—less dear than the 28 registered during the dot-com bubble, but still pricey.

To better gauge the market’s future returns, investors should look at another measure of valuation: At the end of last year, the total value of U.S. stocks was an estimated 169% of gross domestic product. That compares with 85% at the end of 2008, and is approaching the 177% valuation the market hit at the end of 1999.
The market zoomed because stocks were cheap, now it's no so much and we are getting close to markers of the last crash.

During the Obama years, companies kept a tight lid on costs, offering only incremental wage gains and only reluctantly investing in new capital projects. Only lately has that trend shifted as falling unemployment has begun reducing the pool of available workers, with wages beginning to pick up as a result.

Higher wages mean a bigger portion of U.S. output goes to workers and less to profits. As wages move higher, companies have typically moved to control them by shifting production overseas or putting more foreign content in what they manufacture here. Under President Donald Trump, that might be tough to do.

So it seems unlikely that companies will be capturing a bigger piece of the economic pie; if anything, they may be getting a smaller slice. It is, of course, possible for stock prices to keep going up relative to GDP, but that would require valuations to go beyond levels hit in the dot-com bubble.
Companies made a lot of money and while Trump and people on this section are saying that unemployment is 40% it is actually really low and as we reach a theoretical full employment cost are going to go up as companies pay more for workers as the labor pool decreases.

To sum up. It was easy to go from a low market to where we are now, growing 25% as you expected is going to be extremely difficult as the market becomes more and more over-valued. A correction is due and a lot of the isolationist stuff Trump has planned may cause it sooner rather than later.

Those are my expectations.
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.... Trump and people on this section are saying that unemployment is 40% it is actually really low a... Originally Posted by BigLouie
Do you actually know people who have been employed between 2009 and 2016? Or are you satisfied with the "cut and paste" stats?

The realities of our economy is not a "numbers game" based on cooked books ..... and modified definitions to paint a rosy picture .... in 2000 the Clinton Administration did the same shit and "cooked the books" to help Gore along in the election ...

.. the AFL-CIO even when bat-shit over what Clinton/Gore were reporting .... Clinton got belligerent when Cheney said in December 2000 their first order of business was to address the economic downturn in early 2000.

That's the same shit going on in 2016 to help HillaryNoMore.

When there are 5 million people whose 40 hour a week job gets cut to 20 hours (or even 30) and they have to go get another job at 20 hours a week to make ends meet ... that doesn't mean there were ADDED 5 million people to the "Have-a-Job" column. That is what the BLS under the Obaminable Administration WAS DOING!~
There is a great article in the Wall Street Journal that explains why your exceptions will have a hard time coming true. But before I start note that you mentioned the Fed raises the interest rate 2%. Everyone in this section was saying the markets went up because the US was basically printing money and keeping interest rates at zero (0) so how will raising the rate 2% going to help the markets, wouldn't it make the markets go down? Anyway here are some thoughts from the article.



The market zoomed because stocks were cheap, now it's no so much and we are getting close to markers of the last crash.



Companies made a lot of money and while Trump and people on this section are saying that unemployment is 40% it is actually really low and as we reach a theoretical full employment cost are going to go up as companies pay more for workers as the labor pool decreases.

To sum up. It was easy to go from a low market to where we are now, growing 25% as you expected is going to be extremely difficult as the market becomes more and more over-valued. A correction is due and a lot of the isolationist stuff Trump has planned may cause it sooner rather than later.

Those are my expectations. Originally Posted by BigLouie
Wow! BL actually quoted an article! Or did her?

Yes, I am familiar with the affect the interest rates would have on the market and the unemployment rate. That is why I didn't have a 40K Dow projection. The UE # is false because the number of people out of the workforce.

BTW, the market zoomed because you couldn't get a return on any other "market" investment, so money went to stocks instead of bonds. Cheap money was available so consumers kept buying and companies cut expenses by offshoring expenses. Therefore profits rose in many companies.

I'm really not seeing "your" expectations BL, just WSJ's and a critique of my expectations. My economic expectations are at the end of 4 years mainly.