The pinch part 2

These ladies are charging no where near porn star prices. They already are charging Ford and Chevy prices and y’all are still bitching.

And then is getting their nails done really living above their means? Hell we’re the ones that expect that. Sure there are a couple that need Gucci but the rest just dream about Gucci. Then again if I had suck some of these guys dicks I’d feel entitled to some Gucci too...I’ve heard some stories.

I only read the first post in this thread, so forgive me if this question has been answered: why didn’t you include all the years rates didn’t rise?

If I could keep my fuckery down to twice a month it almost wouldnt matter what providers charged lol

And never mind the DFW provider version of OPEC and all the woman hours spent convincing the new ladies to get on board.

And yet not one of them is forcing me to reach for my wallet to pay them.

Just who said you did? I didn't say that. Originally Posted by 2short@desky

Yeah you did, by saying they should keep rates where they are, tighten their operating costs(which you know nothing about but assume they mismanage their money or that they bring in way more then they let be known) and see more guys if they need the bump in income.

Which is much like a provider telling you: only eat ramen noodles this month, use public transportation to get to work and take on a second job so you can afford to see her 5 times this month rather than 3.

So, if a provider told you that and expected that you'd do it, just exactly how would you feel about her????

Yeah you did, by saying they should keep rates where they are, tighten their operating costs(which you know nothing about but assume they mismanage their money or that they bring in way more then they let be known) and see more guys if they need the bump in income.

Which is much like a provider telling you: only eat ramen noodles this month, use public transportation to get to work and take on a second job so you can afford to see her 5 times this month rather than 3.

So, if a provider told you that and expected that you'd do it, just exactly how would you feel about her???? Originally Posted by novacain

I think you're making a shitload of inferences which is not what I said. What I said was that the regulars are yielding market share to the shiny new ladies at their own expense and detriment. Also, the the higher rates forfeit visits that they just might have had otherwise. The higher the price the more shiny new models appear they have to compete with. It has nothing to do with me but I have no urge to run out here and be on the buying end of an escalating market, if you want to do that good for you. So when you buy that next new car, just slip that salesman another 250 because you need to fulfill your philanthropic mindset.

I used to see this happening in the real business world. Newbies are trained by the old pros and then released once the newbies are trained. What market forces are being applied to allow this? The newbies generally are more malleable, offer more longevity, are easy to dispose of without drama, can be very short term, but as a package they are substantially cheaper. In this LUXURY market, the new girls offer the thrill of a new model, and a quest into the unknown which is a huge market advantage for the short term. So the newbies introduce at a rate they consider on par with winning the lottery because the pros are at that rate because if a newbie can charge that, well hell so can I, and it's essentially a perpetual circle jerk. What happens after that? Prices continue you to rise and you're slipping 250 into the pocket of the Toyota salesman. It seems that no one here considers why an Indian from New Delhi replaces a tried an true long term employee in the real business world. Better yet, what actually occurred to allow it . Hint: it has something to do with money.

View your scenario from the other goalpost (the lady) and change a few parameters. Which would you rather have 5 visits at 250 or 3 at 300? Over a year that's what 4200? I'm somewhat sure that a lady can pay her operating costs very easily with this approach and at the end of the month be vastly ahead in the profit realm. There are a few examples of this without naming names to reinforce my conjecture. This scenario does not include intangible visits that may have occurred with a higher probability of happening at the 250 rate. No, this is not hooker math....it's just plain old business sense.

I think a lot of us need to take a field trip to this place:

http://www.pinehillpet.com/

PS: Be sure to bring a baseball bat or a club...

Can I bring some steak sauce? I like horse steaks.

Can I bring some steak sauce? I like horse steaks. Originally Posted by pyramider

If we beat on them as much as we have beaten on the subject of this thread, the meat should be thoroughly tenderized...might not need the sauce...

Could you write a letter to lamborghini that explains how lowering their prices will bring more volume and more money. Maybe all of us can drive lambos.

We shouldn't have to drive around in toyotas, and kias.

Dumb hookers may not listen to you, but I'm sure the guys at lamborghini will take your business advise into serious consideration.



Originally Posted by grean

Save your money and buy a fake lamborghini instead. Heh.

You can buy kits for most anything.

i guess some guys have not heard the lesson, have not learned the lesson and/or just dont want to...


as i posted earlier today ...
* guys are gonna keep contacting providers looking for specials or liwer rates ... no matter what providers ask ...
and
* providers are gonna charge the most they want ... no matter what guys ask ...


and has i have posted many many times before ...
* providers see whom they want, do what they want, do it when they want and charge what they want. oh, and do as little as they can for as much as they can get.

and
* guys see whom they want, do what they want, do it when they want and pay what they want. oh, and get as much as they can for as little as they can pay.


nuff said.
next topic??

Some mentioned previously that there are guys that operate at all price points. I personally prefer the $200-$300 per hour. I have often splurged and went to $400 as there are ladies at higher price points who are simply trying to get away from a certain type of client. Once the ice has been broken and we established some chemistry, some have been willing to work with me on pricing and others haven't.

However, us trying to give them lesson on how they should price themselves to maximize THEIR business is like them trying to tell us how to budget OUR money better so that we can afford to see them more often.

They have no business sticking their nose in my budget. I have no business telling them how to price themselves.

You will be surprised what type of YMMV distance you can get simply by being respectful and confident.

^^^could not have stated this any better^^^