Precious b, it strokes my my ego that you developed a man crush on me and seek my attention, I'm not homosexual but it's still cool. Originally Posted by Carribean stud
- Precious_b
- 11-15-2017, 10:38 AM
- Cheesecake7
- 11-15-2017, 01:12 PM
I am still not sure whether this thread has a point and some people seem to have way too much time on their hand (don't you have a job?). But as I have a day off today and am bored so I might just as well chime in:
For me hobbying is definitely a luxury and I am usually on the generous side $$-wise. To spend a whole hour or more completely naked with a hottie that I would ogle at HEB is priceless (and there ARE some hotties on that board with amazing skills, holy shit!!!). I have also found that a lot of providers have a very nice personality and are just fun to talk to (and talks are so much more inspiring while she is massaging my weenie or I am playing with her tatas...). That is why I always book longer sessions and usually on the weekend when I have more time, which allows me to always be perfectly prepared (groomed and super clean) which I think makes for a better session. Thankfully I don't have a SO (hell, I wouldn't be on this board if I had) so I don't have those time and other constraints.
If I have an "urgent necessity" outside of that time frame I use other "options" (porn etc), get it over quickly and do something productive LOL (repairing the gutter etc).
I realize that some hobbyists seem to be more on the "necessity" side when seeing a provider as some of them seem to be hobbying 3 times a week. Unless you are a millionaire you probably have to haggle, which is close to pressurizing the provider to accept lower rates. This is unfair as a lot of providers NEED the money so they are not in a fair bargaining position. And I agree with LMCC that forcing a lower rate on the provider by taking advantage of her difficult economic situation (or not paying at all) is the moral equivalent of rape.
Just my 2 cents worth...
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For me hobbying is definitely a luxury and I am usually on the generous side $$-wise. To spend a whole hour or more completely naked with a hottie that I would ogle at HEB is priceless (and there ARE some hotties on that board with amazing skills, holy shit!!!). I have also found that a lot of providers have a very nice personality and are just fun to talk to (and talks are so much more inspiring while she is massaging my weenie or I am playing with her tatas...). That is why I always book longer sessions and usually on the weekend when I have more time, which allows me to always be perfectly prepared (groomed and super clean) which I think makes for a better session. Thankfully I don't have a SO (hell, I wouldn't be on this board if I had) so I don't have those time and other constraints.
If I have an "urgent necessity" outside of that time frame I use other "options" (porn etc), get it over quickly and do something productive LOL (repairing the gutter etc).
I realize that some hobbyists seem to be more on the "necessity" side when seeing a provider as some of them seem to be hobbying 3 times a week. Unless you are a millionaire you probably have to haggle, which is close to pressurizing the provider to accept lower rates. This is unfair as a lot of providers NEED the money so they are not in a fair bargaining position. And I agree with LMCC that forcing a lower rate on the provider by taking advantage of her difficult economic situation (or not paying at all) is the moral equivalent of rape.
Just my 2 cents worth...
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- Carribean stud
- 11-15-2017, 06:09 PM
Okay posting on this site is getting boring. The clown show just won't be funny the second time around. What I said is true and my arrangement at $2000 a week is real and may you miserable folks who are struggling so hard that you see 250 dollar hookers cause 400 session is too expensive, if 150 is that important to you, you can't afford this hobby go find some hobby you can afford like tennis or something.
- Dr Grey
- 11-15-2017, 07:00 PM
Majority of males in the US make an income of 40k to 80k a year, and holds true around the hobby scene. Have met a lot of people and done a few studies. If you are truly spending wisely, total hobbies account for 30 percent of one's income. This hobby, golf, bball, tennis, video games, drinking, etc.
If you hobby once a week at 250 for an hour, you would spend 13.5k on just the session alone. Doesn't include tips, doubles, gas, condoms, extended dates etc. Realistically someone might spend 15k total at a once a week rate if they stick to 250.
Even making 100k a year, which is maybe a much smaller amount of the total hobbyists, that is 15 percent of one's income. Maybe another 15 percent to have a good time on doing other things. So gotta say, those people making anything less than 100k a year take home, can't afford a 400 weekly session (21.5k one just the session, roughly 24k to 26k if tipping, extended dates etc). Just isn't happening for the majority of people. Many can barely afford 250, so you see way more hhr appointments in reviews than you ever did on aspd. The old site. Lots of guys have quit also or retired.
Girls have always typically put their rates on what's affordable to most guys (was usually less historically as girls did it for fun while working a professional job as opposed to this full time). Which 220 to 280 seems to work for most folks and their salaries or incomes. Just barely for a few I'm sure.
Now if you hobby once a month, it may not be that bad. Easily manageable. But 4 providers you were helping pay bills, rent and car payments goes to 1 girl, your provider pool drops way down also as many wouldn't survive on a once every 4 month basis from you. Most guys like companionship on a weekly basis, but perhaps we need a poll for that. But a lot of gents I've met usually hobby once or twice a week.
Girls are welcome to charge what they want to. No issue with a lady asking 300 to 400. It's their bodies, business, talents, etc. I respect it personally. Free enterprise. Doesn't mean most will go for it however as it is a luxury item. People wouldn't buy an Xbox for 400 or 500 (while some do many do not), same goes for 1 hr with a girl. Folks can meet some pretty ladies out and about if needed. I stick to what's affordable personally as well. Try Not to overspend when I can help it.
There are plenty girls who provide at rates guys enjoy paying for their time on. There's girls here at 400 to 700, and ladies from 150 to 280. Most girls conform to the market and what makes sense as to what guys can afford and rate at which they like to hobby.
In truth, there really isn't a wrong or right answer. The hobby scene would be a lot smaller if rates were that high and yes, lots of guys would find other hobbies. Girls just provide at all rates for everyone for a big piece of the market, or a specific type of clientele.
As with negotiating, it happens. It's a business. I've heard from both sides. Many saying they don't like it at all, to others saying they don't mind at all. One even encouraged it when talking with them (and in person), and says her retention on regulars has been great for her. Doesn't mean it works for everyone. But to ask a girl in text or pm at any rates (especially seeing them for the first time), if they can go lower than what's posted is not cool. Yes, suck up the rate on the provider you want to see if they are on the higher dollar amounts, or move on to another girl affordable to you. All there is to it.
If you hobby once a week at 250 for an hour, you would spend 13.5k on just the session alone. Doesn't include tips, doubles, gas, condoms, extended dates etc. Realistically someone might spend 15k total at a once a week rate if they stick to 250.
Even making 100k a year, which is maybe a much smaller amount of the total hobbyists, that is 15 percent of one's income. Maybe another 15 percent to have a good time on doing other things. So gotta say, those people making anything less than 100k a year take home, can't afford a 400 weekly session (21.5k one just the session, roughly 24k to 26k if tipping, extended dates etc). Just isn't happening for the majority of people. Many can barely afford 250, so you see way more hhr appointments in reviews than you ever did on aspd. The old site. Lots of guys have quit also or retired.
Girls have always typically put their rates on what's affordable to most guys (was usually less historically as girls did it for fun while working a professional job as opposed to this full time). Which 220 to 280 seems to work for most folks and their salaries or incomes. Just barely for a few I'm sure.
Now if you hobby once a month, it may not be that bad. Easily manageable. But 4 providers you were helping pay bills, rent and car payments goes to 1 girl, your provider pool drops way down also as many wouldn't survive on a once every 4 month basis from you. Most guys like companionship on a weekly basis, but perhaps we need a poll for that. But a lot of gents I've met usually hobby once or twice a week.
Girls are welcome to charge what they want to. No issue with a lady asking 300 to 400. It's their bodies, business, talents, etc. I respect it personally. Free enterprise. Doesn't mean most will go for it however as it is a luxury item. People wouldn't buy an Xbox for 400 or 500 (while some do many do not), same goes for 1 hr with a girl. Folks can meet some pretty ladies out and about if needed. I stick to what's affordable personally as well. Try Not to overspend when I can help it.
There are plenty girls who provide at rates guys enjoy paying for their time on. There's girls here at 400 to 700, and ladies from 150 to 280. Most girls conform to the market and what makes sense as to what guys can afford and rate at which they like to hobby.
In truth, there really isn't a wrong or right answer. The hobby scene would be a lot smaller if rates were that high and yes, lots of guys would find other hobbies. Girls just provide at all rates for everyone for a big piece of the market, or a specific type of clientele.
As with negotiating, it happens. It's a business. I've heard from both sides. Many saying they don't like it at all, to others saying they don't mind at all. One even encouraged it when talking with them (and in person), and says her retention on regulars has been great for her. Doesn't mean it works for everyone. But to ask a girl in text or pm at any rates (especially seeing them for the first time), if they can go lower than what's posted is not cool. Yes, suck up the rate on the provider you want to see if they are on the higher dollar amounts, or move on to another girl affordable to you. All there is to it.
- Carribean stud
- 11-15-2017, 08:47 PM
I got to something about a few making 100,000 before I completely quit reading. I think you said like hobbys account for 30% of spending and avg income was 40-80 grand a year. If all that's correct it becomes obvious to me why middle class Americans constantly bitch. They have no discipline instead of living a frugal life and building financial security for their families they selfishly toss it away on entertaining themselves. Ohhh the vicious cycle of poverty. God bless Trump!!!
- Guest070818-1
- 11-15-2017, 09:01 PM
Majority of males in the US make an income of 40k to 80k a year, and holds true around the hobby scene. Have met a lot of people and done a few studies. If you are truly spending wisely, total hobbies account for 30 percent of one's income. This hobby, golf, bball, tennis, video games, drinking, etc.A single man hobbying making 40K-80K a year is one thing, but being married and having a wife that actually works is another.
If you hobby once a week at 250 for an hour, you would spend 13.5k on just the session alone. Doesn't include tips, doubles, gas, condoms, extended dates etc. Realistically someone might spend 15k total at a once a week rate if they stick to 250.
Even making 100k a year, which is maybe a much smaller amount of the total hobbyists, that is 15 percent of one's income. Maybe another 15 percent to have a good time on doing other things. So gotta say, those people making anything less than 100k a year take home, can't afford a 400 weekly session (21.5k one just the session, roughly 24k to 26k if tipping, extended dates etc). Just isn't happening for the majority of people. Many can barely afford 250, so you see way more hhr appointments in reviews than you ever did on aspd. The old site. Lots of guys have quit also or retired.
Girls have always typically put their rates on what's affordable to most guys (was usually less historically as girls did it for fun while working a professional job as opposed to this full time). Which 220 to 280 seems to work for most folks and their salaries or incomes. Just barely for a few I'm sure.
Now if you hobby once a month, it may not be that bad. Easily manageable. But 4 providers you were helping pay bills, rent and car payments goes to 1 girl, your provider pool drops way down also as many wouldn't survive on a once every 4 month basis from you. Most guys like companionship on a weekly basis, but perhaps we need a poll for that. But a lot of gents I've met usually hobby once or twice a week.
Girls are welcome to charge what they want to. No issue with a lady asking 300 to 400. It's their bodies, business, talents, etc. I respect it personally. Free enterprise. Doesn't mean most will go for it however as it is a luxury item. People wouldn't buy an Xbox for 400 or 500 (while some do many do not), same goes for 1 hr with a girl. Folks can meet some pretty ladies out and about if needed. I stick to what's affordable personally as well. Try Not to overspend when I can help it.
There are plenty girls who provide at rates guys enjoy paying for their time on. There's girls here at 400 to 700, and ladies from 150 to 280. Most girls conform to the market and what makes sense as to what guys can afford and rate at which they like to hobby.
In truth, there really isn't a wrong or right answer. The hobby scene would be a lot smaller if rates were that high and yes, lots of guys would find other hobbies. Girls just provide at all rates for everyone for a big piece of the market, or a specific type of clientele.
As with negotiating, it happens. It's a business. I've heard from both sides. Many saying they don't like it at all, to others saying they don't mind at all. One even encouraged it when talking with them (and in person), and says her retention on regulars has been great for her. Doesn't mean it works for everyone. But to ask a girl in text or pm at any rates (especially seeing them for the first time), if they can go lower than what's posted is not cool. Yes, suck up the rate on the provider you want to see if they are on the higher dollar amounts, or move on to another girl affordable to you. All there is to it. Originally Posted by RogueOne
I'm sure that some of my clients have extra expendable income as they aren't the only breadwinners in the household.
- Bankshot
- 11-15-2017, 09:51 PM
Thats my situation. Combined we are at just under 200K.
- Dr Grey
- 11-15-2017, 10:39 PM
A single man hobbying making 40K-80K a year is one thing, but being married and having a wife that actually works is another.So they use their wives money or SO's to hobby your saying?
I'm sure that some of my clients have extra expendable income as they aren't the only breadwinners in the household. Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste
- Dr Grey
- 11-15-2017, 11:13 PM
I got to something about a few making 100,000 before I completely quit reading. I think you said like hobbys account for 30% of spending and avg income was 40-80 grand a year. If all that's correct it becomes obvious to me why middle class Americans constantly bitch. They have no discipline instead of living a frugal life and building financial security for their families they selfishly toss it away on entertaining themselves. Ohhh the vicious cycle of poverty. God bless Trump!!! Originally Posted by Carribean studFor someone who claims they make a lot of money, and comes off as "well educated", seems to have a short attention span. How did you make enough to afford 2000 a week for a provider offer, buy a horse, and who knows what else? Obviously not by reading anything. Share your secret to success with me.
Middle class Americans always bitch? HAHA, that's cute. It's everyone! All people do it. Even the rich people do it, as with poor people. People in general are the ones who don't even want to part with their money even if expendable (always something else to buy right? The American Way), while others don't make enough to hobby. It's a vicious cycle indeed. As a kid I went around a few neighborhoods for that night out thing they have every summer. Met a lot of people. Most of the middle class had bbq, steak, hamburgers, sides, tons of food. They went all out. Went to rich peoples parties later on, doughnut holes while the rest had no cookouts or anything. Was kind of odd as pointed out by a family friend of mine later on as they expected them to have way more. Seriously, people are frugal with their money. Not just middle class people.
I was specifically pointing out just how middle class citizens, world wide even, if wanting to spend time with a woman regularly won't be able to see high dollar ones unless cutting down the amount of time they spend by seeing maybe one girl to two a month. Nothing wrong with that, depends on the man's itch, needs, and luxuries they want to consume. Most guys would like to hobby at a once a week maybe twice, seen many threads on this discussion in many cities.
Hell, I don't make great money, but I don't bitch about it either. I see plenty of women within my means and have had a great time enjoying both ends of the spectrum of the hobby. Even not in the hobby. I've been on many dates and all kinds. Probably more than one should before they are forty. I've found what I enjoy, and what works for me financially and have fun.
Belittling others because of their income and irresponsibility just shows what kind of character you have, regardless even if some middle class folks are like that. That's pretty bad man.
God bless Trump!!! Originally Posted by Carribean studYou just lost any credibility with a lot of members here...
How he hasn't stepped in and done anything about Bill 214 here in Texas (or any other state that has a similar plan in effect) is pretty hypocritical of what our leader of the country stands for and declared during his campaign. Sure, the states may have to decide this law, but who put these guys in power? Let alone vote for this? If you don't know what it is, its a supplemental insurance plan women must get to cover abortions. Even those under rape, incest, etc must have this extra coverage in order for insurance to cover it. Thought Trump stood for protecting rape victims and incest victims? Not make them pay more and make money off of it...
http://www.businessinsider.com/donal...itions-2016-11
And ladies, if you haven't already known about this, especially in this line of work...you may want to check this out...
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...e-ban-into-law
For more convo on Bill 214....please discuss in another thread...
- Carribean stud
- 11-16-2017, 05:01 AM
Rogueone, I didn't make all the money I have, money was invested for me at a young age, I inherited well and all that money was invested well.
- rockerrick
- 11-16-2017, 07:21 AM
- HedonisticFool
- 11-16-2017, 07:27 AM
- Carribean stud
- 11-16-2017, 07:48 AM
started your life with someone else’s money...Sums it up, and shows the animosity some of the working class has towards the successful. Families that have been citizens of the greatest country the world has ever known for a 100 years or more and still don't have shit to show for it, jealous of families who siezed the opportunities.
i wish i had that kind of luck! Originally Posted by HedonisticFool
- rockerrick
- 11-16-2017, 07:58 AM
- Carribean stud
- 11-16-2017, 07:59 AM
Genetics play a pivotal role as well as environment in the productivity of crops and livestock and all living things. Our environment is the same being that we live in the same country so the genetics become the limiting factor. I'm obviously blessed.