tax cuts cause deficits

Snitchy gets all of his info from his subscription to War Resisters League magazine. He wants entitlements to be inserted into the Constitution and all mention of national defense to be removed. Originally Posted by lustylad

It certainly wouldn't surprise me.. I've known SEVERAL other liberals who had That same beleif, that WELFARE should be in the constitution, as a BLOODY RIGHT, but national defense should be stripped out and left up to each STATE to fund..

No where does it say we should go broke DEFENDING THE ENTIRE WORLD... Originally Posted by WTF

That’s why Trump is demanding other countries pay their fair share you jackass.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/29/p...ing/index.html Originally Posted by bambino

BOTH i agree with. WE should focus more on DEFENSE OF OUR OWN country, not every other bloody country out there.
AND STOP frikken rebuilding a country after we have to destroy it cause they attacked us (or harbored those who did)..

What "massive state debt" are you talking about? The budget hole in kansas was completely eradicated by a very small tax increase.

. Originally Posted by kehaar

So Kansas righted the ship of deficits with a TAX INCREASE....I rest my case.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...kansas/542532/

He wants entitlements to be inserted into the Constitution and all mention of national defense to be removed. Originally Posted by lustylad

That is a fucking lie and lucky for you , you are on a whore board stating that lie and not face to face. Or you would be stating that lie while knocked on your ass.

That’s why Trump is demanding other countries pay their fair share you jackass.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/29/p...ing/index.html Originally Posted by bambino

On this I agree with Trump 100%.

I have been saying the same for years. Germany/Japan instead of paying for their fair share of Defense instead put that money in their citizens healthcare which gave their business a competitive advantage.

It certainly wouldn't surprise me.. I've known SEVERAL other liberals who had That same beleif, that WELFARE should be in the constitution, as a BLOODY RIGHT, but national defense should be stripped out and left up to each STATE to fund..

YOU ARE DOUBLE TALKING....I said we spend to much on Defense defending the entire world. If other nations paid their fair share , we could then take that savings and spend it on healthcare for our own citizens. I mean what fucking good is defending a nation that is chronically sick?



BOTH i agree with. WE should focus more on DEFENSE OF OUR OWN country, not every other bloody country out there.
AND STOP frikken rebuilding a country after we have to destroy it cause they attacked us (or harbored those who did).. Originally Posted by garhkal

These idiots like lustylad that think Defense spending is not the huge deficit problem are either bald face liars or common idiots. Our Medicare and SS taxes have run a hug budget surplus....In fact if you took those in a separate category , you'd see just how much we spend on Defense....which basically is a job welfare program that results in destruction . We could take that same money and invest in our citizens health. I'm not talking about all of it , we still need money for the Defense of this country but not the defense of Exxon in Iraq or any other country.

So Kansas righted the ship of deficits with a TAX INCREASE....I rest my case.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...kansas/542532/ Originally Posted by WTF

Could Kansas's woes though have been cause they just SPENT TOO MUCH? So needed the increase in taxes to right the ship?

YOU ARE DOUBLE TALKING....I said we spend to much on Defense defending the entire world. If other nations paid their fair share , we could then take that savings and spend it on healthcare for our own citizens. I mean what fucking good is defending a nation that is chronically sick? Originally Posted by WTF

So as i said earlier, you think healthcare/welfare spending should be a RIGHT wrote into the constitution...

Trump is resigning

Could Kansas's woes though have been cause they just SPENT TOO MUCH? So needed the increase in taxes to right the ship? Originally Posted by garhkal

maybe or prolly not. I think they wanted to spend more as an excuse to increase taxes instead of cutting.

now its possible that Kansas leges didn't cut in the right places. so don't really know the score there.

So as i said earlier, you think healthcare/welfare spending should be a RIGHT wrote into the constitution... Originally Posted by garhkal

And as I said earlier , no. No more than I think the huge military budget is a right.

Fuck, how moronic are you?

Do you want the nation to go broke defending the whole world just so 1% of this country can benefit for that defense. Do you think it right we defend say Exxon's oil interests all over the world and Exxon or all the other multinational corporations get a tax break instead of wtf the should get which is the tax bill for that defense.

The inheritance used to be used to pay down the national debt from wars....this made the very rich insure that we did not go to war willy nilly and concluded it asap without this nation building crap.

Could Kansas's woes though have been cause they just SPENT TOO MUCH? So needed the increase in taxes to right the ship?


... Originally Posted by garhkal

Did you just say that?

Do you know how stupid you sound?

Basically Kansas cut taxes...saw a huge deficit increase. Shocker there.

Raised taxes , deficit starts back down. Shocker there.

Do you not understand a fucking thing about the Lauffer Curve?

If the tax rate is already low...cutting taxes further does not increase tax revenue. Just as if they are already too high , raising them will not increase revenue.

Reduce spending across the board or STFU.... Originally Posted by WTF

WTF speaks the truth.

maybe or prolly not. I think they wanted to spend more as an excuse to increase taxes instead of cutting.

now its possible that Kansas leges didn't cut in the right places. so don't really know the score there. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Spoken like an expert,

Cutting Taxes without cutting spending creates deficits.

Creating deficits is completely opposite of what a conservative government philosophy is.

Republicans are no longer conservative. They are just greedy lobbiest cock holsters.

Now when people talk about trmiming fat around military spending, they are talking about the out of control F35 program. We don't need to close bases or reduce the number of boots, necessarily. We need to look at all those government defense contracts.

Reigning in those would reduce spending significantly without affect troop readiness or safety.

And as I said earlier , no. No more than I think the huge military budget is a right.

Fuck, how moronic are you? Originally Posted by WTF

No more so tha you are.. DEFENSE spending is a RIGHT as defined in the bloody constitution. NO WHERE does it state that health care, or entitlements are a right though..

No more so tha you are.. DEFENSE spending is a RIGHT as defined in the bloody constitution. NO WHERE does it state that health care, or entitlements are a right though.. Originally Posted by garhkal

jerkal...no where in the Constitution does it say we can spend unlimited funds on Defense ....especially when much of it goes to defending other nations.

It speaks of defending this nation, not this nations multinational business interests all over the world.

How many times do I have to tell you this?

Now when people talk about trmiming fat around military spending, they are talking about the out of control F35 program. We don't need to close bases or reduce the number of boots, necessarily. We need to look at all those government defense contracts.
. Originally Posted by grean

Yet folks like jerkal do not want an across the board cut on Defense....



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Before the tax cuts, wheat was 8$/bushel, corn was 8$/bushel, oil was +$100/barrel. Those commodities are essentially half of that now.

While the chart shows non-farm income, it includes the farm support infrastructure. There are few states that could withstand that sort of calamity, and still be ticking with positive wage growth, very low unemployment, and an exceptional infrastructure.

Kansas' unemployment rate is as low as it can get. If someone in Kansas says they can't find a job, they are disabled, or lying. The one group of people in kansas who are suffering are parasites. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

You are an idiot, and likely a parasite. IJS.

Kehaar Originally Posted by kehaar

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