Jose Zarate Found Not Guilty of Murder In Kate Steinle Shooting

why was he shooting at seals? Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

He fired more than one shot?

I spent 20 years in the NAVY working over 7 of those years with Security forces, whether in Bahrain on the Auxiliary security force, On All 3 ships, or with the Seabees. SO YES I DO know , there is no such thing as an accidental discharge. Originally Posted by garhkal

Have you ever heard of the 5th Amendment? ...."the Seabees"?

(may be those weren't firearms you heard it was "Cat" backfires!)

Glad you mentioned "the Navy" .. here's why, as I stated above:

http://www.safety.marines.mil/Portal...20P5102.1B.pdf

Navy & Marine Corps
Mishap and Safety Investigation, Reporting,
And
Record Keeping
Manual

GLOSSARY G-1
GLOSSARY OF TERMS AND DEFINITIONS

1. Accident Categories. DoD accidents are divided into the following categories: aircraft, explosives and chemical agents, motor vehicles, ground and industrial, off-duty military, unmanned aerial vehicles, guided missiles, maritime, nuclear, and space.

29. Direct Enemy Action (DEA). Any injury or death occurring within a combat zone as a result of direct action with an opposing or hostile force is considered DEA. All injury or death cased by “friendly fire” is considered a mishap.

30. DoD Accident. An unplanned event, or series of events, that results in damage to DoD property; occupational illness to DoD military or civilian personnel; injury to DoD military personnel on- or off-duty; injury to on-duty DoD civilian personnel; damage to public or private property, or injury or illness to non-DoD personnel caused by DoD operations.

40. Explosives Mishaps. An accident or incident involving conventional ordnance, ammunition, .... resulting in an unintentional detonation, firing,.......

Did you check the "Mishap" box? Or were you even involved in the paper work? Apparently it was "drilled" into your "Yes, Sir!" brain that there would be "no accidents" on your CO's "watch"! So you bring that distorted, coverup "definition" to a civie criminal case as "authority" from your anecdotal experiences as a Seabee?

The Naval Criminal Investigation Service can make that determination and review the FACTS to determine the "mishap."

Since you've been so careless as to disclose your RW information on a hooker board in order to appear an "authority" you probably won't mind providing the years in which you prepared "mishap/accident" reports on firearm discharges so I can produce the current manual at the time of your service and the forms you used for that purpose.

.....and the jury made the correct decision as far as the charge of murder was concerned.

The jury went by the evidence presented.
Originally Posted by Jackie S

^^^^^ Exactly!

In November 2016 there was a verdict, also.

Accept them, and move on.

(And JS I'm not directing my observations at you!)

It's for all the other pundits and folks on here who didn't hear the evidence and don't know the evidence that was not introduced at trial.

And based upon the "Las Vegas Pundits'" scholarly opinions:

What was the Illegal Alien's MOTIVE? They think you need one!

He got back into the country through Texas, how come there isn't a fence there?

He got back into the country through Texas, how come there isn't a fence there? Originally Posted by bamscram

There's a river, but it's "supplemented"!

Where is that picture from LLiarMan?

How do we know that’s not Arizona or New Mexico or a studio somewhere underneath Virginia?

And where is the shark in that picture?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

AssUp ... is this you with some friends coming home?

and where did you get that picture, FAKE NEWS?

Fake news site over two years old.

About as real as THIS, from your favorite site.



Typical LLiarMan bullshit.

Btw — CONGRATULATIONS!

May be you like this river pic better!



Of course, I'm not 100% certain it's the Rio Grande.

I mean it might be part of Lake Austin? Patrolling for

...

Trumps big loud mouth, yet again, caused trouble, here.

Had he stayed the hell out of it, there almost definitely would have been a involuntary manslaughter charge added and it would have stuck. Originally Posted by grean

I agree. And I will add that a jury will let him walk because they don't like Trump.
This makes total sense in California.

BTW

Manslaughter
The unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.

Yes he killed her. (Manslaughter)
He claims it was on accident. (Involuntary)
Do the math.
Personally his case is total bullshit. I've looked and haven't seen evidence he actually just found the gun other than his conflicting stories. We know at least one version of his story is a fabrication making his testimony unreliable.

Summary. You can kill a person in California if Trump says he doesn't like you and you are part of a "persecuted" group.

More nut cases coming out of the woodwork. It's amazing.

Too bad Obaminable isn't still the POTUS ... he'd get the death penalty!

Right boys?

I guess you also think the Jury on OJ was bullshit! Trump do that, too?

Do the math.

....I've looked and haven't seen evidence .... Originally Posted by goodman0422

Did you use a calculator or just pencil and paper?

And just where did you "look" that you saw no "evidence"?

They didn't need a Jury to lynch the guy. You'd do just fine!

Was it because he was an "illegal alien"? Or was it because he is Hispanic? Was it because a White girl died? Or was it that Trump thought the decision was bad also? Or are you just drinking early today?

Then this SOB should've been charged with murder.


http://yahoo.com/news/hunter-charged...175711756.html Originally Posted by andymarksman

He COULD have been..
BUT that brings up the point in WHAT did he do differently than what this illegal invader did?? BOTH killed someone, without intending to do.. ONE had a legal license to hunt and have his weapon (the hunter) one was ILLEGALLY in ownership of a weapon he fired in an Unlawful manner (In public)..

....in your military paper shuffling there won't be a box to check saying "accidental discharges" kinda like there ain't no "Caucasian" box to check on government forms, but the military experience has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with civilian assessments of the basis for a discharge of a firearm.

Actually we DO have caucasian boxes.. Also we have Negligent discharges, not accidental discharges on paperwork..

That's murder, and it wouldn't be an "accident" if I double-tapped your ass before you got your first swing completed.

Did i say 'double tap" NO. I said a fist fight.. meaning boxing like.. IF YOU kill me via fists in that fight, but didn't intend to that is Manslaughter. Not murder.

Did you check the "Mishap" box? Or were you even involved in the paper work?

Yes i was in volved.. Two mishaps on a range. Negligent discharges was what we ticked on the box for the paperwork..

Yes he killed her.(Manslaughter)
He claims it was on accident. (Involuntary)
Do the math. Originally Posted by goodman0422

Your screwed-up "math" failed completely on Blane Shaw and William Brumby because you fucked up your "mathematical formulas" by not taking the "white males" into account. But no worries, I'll keep reaming your arse with the correct answers, one at a time.


http://seattlepi.com/local/article/F...-t-1071098.php

Personally his case is total bullshit. I've looked and haven't seen evidence he actually just found the gun other than his conflicting stories. We know at least one version of his story is a fabrication making his testimony unreliable. Originally Posted by goodman0422

You're full of shit, sir. One surveillance video clearly showed that a group of people had stealthily stuffed some strange object(s) underneath the metal bench just before Garcia Zarate hopped onto that bench. And being a homeless man himself, he naturally took the object up and started examining it. It's all caught on video, and the fact that the prosecution couldn't effectively counter that piece of evidence speaks volumes about the absurdity of charging him with murder in the first place. Then these fuckers backpedaled toward the end of the trial but it's too late since they had already focused their entire argument on the murder part. You think you can do better? Maybe if you apply more bleach on yourself.


http://cbsnews.com/news/kate-steinle...shown-in-court