i not sure how to pick

Grace, I like your avatar. I had a self portrait mirror shot as mine not long ago too.
I ran a couple of specials for the same amount as your rate. I don't consider that to be too low. Sometimes I'll run an outcall special for that amount in the Lawrence area only, but that is only if I'm too lazy to drive further. I don't think Kat meant that as a disparaging remark about girls with lower rates. I could be wrong though.
IMO doing an hour for less than a $ an hour is selling yourself short. But, I'm not going to knock girls who have low rates because everyone has a reason for doing what they do and until I walk a mile in their shoes, I have no right to say anything at all.

Some ladies will do a lower rate because it works for them and thats what they want, they could go higher but know that with a lower rate they get more biz. I have know some girls that have gotten too many phone calls and raised their rates so that only serious people who really wanted to see them would call. Alot of times the higher the rate the less guys will call because their are so many other females with lower rates.

I cant speak for the men as far as what makes them call females but I would say that I would think they look at pics, rates and then reviews, Sometimes they will look at the girls posts she made and see what she talks about, If her rates are high but alot of great reviews men will want to see what it is all about. Also alot of time its also the new girl of the month, someone who just signed up or is new everyone wants to see her, I cant say this about all men but sometimes its just, he saw her now I wanna see her. Kinda like who's package is bigger, I bet I can make her scream louder then he did. My dream is gonna be better!!!!

Thanks Allie

JR,

Oh shut up. This board is for EVERYONE TO JUMP IN and add their opinion, not just the holier than thou.

You obviously have a problem with me and once again you choose to single me out when there were other people who said the same damn thing as me.

He insulted her and I wasn't the only one who thought so. So you better go scold them too or are you afraid of scolding a man and just scold women who you think you can "bully" around?

I'll be looking for your scolding post of Malwoody, Allie, and Dirty Dog. Originally Posted by MsElena

JR, nothing against you and I'm not taking sides but I laughed my ass off at MsElena's response. I don't think I've ever seen anyone tell someone to "shut up" on this site.

If it will help cool down the flames, everyone is free to compare me unfavorably with my friend in my avatar. Believe me, he's far cuter than I am.

Just wondering how low do you consider bargain bin?
I, for one, am on the lower end of the donation scale, but it works for me. I don't think using insulting remarks like bargain bin makes you look very good.
If what your doing or not doing isn't working try finding something that will. Whether it be your rates or finding a special niche.

Jmo
Grace Originally Posted by Graceutr

What i mean are those that offer 30-80 an hour,the bargin bin coment was met for those more long the line of SW not those ho go about and do their homework and re working for something other then their pimp or drugs.I am sorry if you felt this was ment to anyone one person.

What i mean are those that offer 30-80 an hour,the bargin bin coment was met for those more long the line of SW not those ho go about and do their homework and re working for something other then their pimp or drugs.I am sorry if you felt this was ment to anyone one person. Originally Posted by katkisses2000

I didn't. Just don't feel that we should judge anyone based upon donation. That's all. They may have reasons other than those you stated and even if they don't, its their business.
Best of luck to you. I hope everything works out for ya
Grace

Thank you seems thing are picking up for now.I am not trying to knock anyone for their rates,but i feel if you know your worth somehing dont sell yourself short or feel that you need to cheapin yourself so you can pick up dreamers.I just wanted to know where that happy middle was i know if you go to low then the dreamers see it as something is wrong,your to high and they think not worth it.this was more of why do provider pick the rate they are at and why do men see a providers whos rate is this or that not meaning me per say thats all i wasnt asking for me.

I’m not a cheap or poor guy, and nothing against any of the ladies here, but as far as I’m concerned - there is nothing anyone can do to or for me that is worth $250 - $300 an hour. I love steak, but I would not normally pay more that $30 for a meal. Unlike food, I can go without hobby activities. Luckily there are some ladies like Grace that allow me to still participate.

Jayhawker, I think you'll find that most of us aren't averse to going over an hour for the same rate.
You just have to check reviews to find out which girls offer non-rushed sessions.

JR, nothing against you and I'm not taking sides but I laughed my ass off at MsElena's response. I don't think I've ever seen anyone tell someone to "shut up" on this site.

If it will help cool down the flames, everyone is free to compare me unfavorably with my friend in my avatar. Believe me, he's far cuter than I am. Originally Posted by janwalshs

Thanks,

Just giving MsElena a little attention she so desires. With 17 months and 1941 postings that works out to about 115 per month. She isn't even from Kansas City; she is from Omaha. I do business on a regular schedule in Omaha. But I wouldn't walk across the street for free to see MsElena. She scares the hell out of me with her openness lay it all out there attitude. I like a little more security than that. I have no interest in MsElena's whips and chains. My response to her is simply; I don't care for a bimbo; most of her posts have nothing to say, they are just 1941 posts trying to get attention and promote a failing business.

As for KatKisses; just go to her showcase. Others have previously told her to get new pictures and get rid of the frown. She doesn't listen. Be kind? OK, for the first dozen times. She just complains and takes up space when others want to visit. The first time I looked at her picture I truly thought: "she couldn't pay me to see her for any amount of money". Most of these girls are really great people. But there are a few who think that they don't have to do anything at all to get some business, (not even clean up and get a decent picture) just be themselves and the guys will fall all over themselves to get to them.

Whenever, my daughters started the "I am a little girl, I don't have to do my homework" routine; I straightened that out fast. Motivation can be inculcated. Watch out for the woman who are in this business just because they are too lazy to work. They will be a failure at anything they do.

But even a woman who is less than a beauty queen can make a guy feel like a king. My best recent experience was with a lady who was older than her pictures, but I went ahead anyway and she was so nice that the session, and her reward, was greatly extended. We are now friends.

Sorry, the truth is there are more women available than men. None of us should have to put up with this nonsense. If a guy has a job, and is halfway nice, and not a total wimp, the women will flock to him. We pay these girls to leave us alone when we are finished. If you just want sex, it is available for free; but then, all the free ones want to stay and clean your house and do your dishes. Gee, sometimes a guy just wants to relax and have a fun time. The girls need to understand we all need to relax, have a little fun, get away from the job and just plain chill.

I have met some wonderful ladies who have contributed to my sanity. Life was made good again after the deaths of two wives. Sex can help us get over grief, trauma, burn-out, and depression; in the long run it is cheaper than a shrink. When times are tough, take a vacation, get a girl. Life goes on for everyone until it ends. Enjoy life, and enjoy the ladies. But it is the guy's choice.


JR

Thanks,

Just giving MsElena a little attention she so desires. With 17 months and 1941 postings that works out to about 115 per month. She isn't even from Kansas City; she is from Omaha. I do business on a regular schedule in Omaha. But I wouldn't walk across the street for free to see MsElena. She scares the hell out of me with her openness lay it all out there attitude. I like a little more security than that. I have no interest in MsElena's whips and chains. My response to her is simply; I don't care for a bimbo; most of her posts have nothing to say, they are just 1941 posts trying to get attention and promote a failing business.JR Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Aww, such the gentleman you are. Darlin', I wouldn't fuck you with Susan Boyle's pussy and quite frankly, I don't give pity lays. Guess you don't have to worry about walking across the street to see me now huh?


Your insults mean nothing to me. If it makes you feel better, makes you feel like a big tough guy to insult me every chance you get, go for it. Everyone's tough sitting behind their computers.

Yeah, I have an "lay it all out there attitude." LOL That's the funniest thing I've read on this board to date. Thanks for the laugh.

Still waiting for you to call out Malwoody, Allie and others for doing the same thing I did. Oh wait, you won't because you don't have an axe to grind with them.

Again, leave me the hell alone. Keep poking bear and sooner or later, the bear pokes back.

What's an SSBBW? Just askin'! Originally Posted by The Sixth Beatle

Super sized bbw. I just learned of the term a few months back.

Elisabeth

Just remember-Karma is a bitch.

. . . I don't care for a bimbo; most of her posts have nothing to say, they are just 1941 posts trying to get attention and promote a failing business. Originally Posted by JRLawrence

JR,

Seriously? In another post in a different thread you refer to a provider as a "bitch" - and your tone has certainly changed over the last several months.

I hope that you're doing well and that nothing is amiss for you personally . . . I know we've had a "go" a time or two on the board previously, but this level of disrespect and holding a grudge in this manner isn't typically like you (at least the "you" I remember with fun banter through some great discussions).

Elena doesn't deserve it, and neither does Kat . . . we can all agree to disagree without so much . . . well, you know.

I have seen you be much more diplomatic (and in return, your comments have been respected in the past), this just seems, well, lower than you typically go - as if something is "off".

Again, I hope that things are well with you - and I hope you won't use this comment by me as an excuse to take another stab at anyone. Maybe, a few days away from the board? Just a thought.

Kisses,

- Jackie

I dont knolw how this thread became all about ME.I was justing asking how one gose about picking a rate,some of you read this thread and answered it by letting me know what works and dosent and how you came to find what is a rate your happy with.Other had hijaked the threa and made it all about me and my pics,rates,yada yada..
When this thread wasnt about me!! so please lets stop this childish game of my rooster is bigger then yours please and yes i understand bbw's arent for everyone,but even with that being said dosent mean that there is to be grade school name calling nor undermining other for their thoughts.
I have kept my cool about this thread but really all this drama and what not is really uncalled for.
There are a number of providers here on this board if you dont like the look of one keep looking that is your right to do so.That dosent mean you have to be mean,even hatful to those of us whom are,I mean just because your a man and we are woman dose not mean we are any less Shit do you know how hard it is to put something out on the web that will be there forever???? I for one dont see any men posting their pics out there so we woman can judge you!!!........................ ...................
ok ok now that i have let off some steam,I will now be at peace with what has been said