Okay, the question has been asked...

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Fake Mexican? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Why do the dems complain about the popular vote so much. Do you realize that Hillary won the popular vote in the 2008 democratic primary but got steamrolled at the convention?

Well! if the Democrats reject the far leftist movement .. then their best option is the most conservative i.e. pro capitalism candidates they can get.


if you look at the "bottom" of this barrel .. i give you ..


Hickenlooper/Buttigieg!
Hickenlooper/Buttigieg!
Hickenlooper/Buttigieg!
Dickenpooper/Buttigain!
Hickenlooper/Buttigieg!


BAHHAHAHAA

A used douchebag beats Trump.

To paraphrase his assholiness ... “No President should ever be a man like that again. Ever. Ever. Ever again.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS!

How soon everybody forgets 2016... sigh.

Is there a call for a new DOTY? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Since YOU posted this!

No worries yssup! You are the forever champion of that crown! Originally Posted by winn dixie

Foot Mouth

I can see why you never responded!

This guy is a radical left winger...please link to ANYTHING that he isn't FARRRR left on!!
Radical left wingers DON"T win Presidential elections!! Originally Posted by bb1961

I wasn't commenting on his political views but rather on his likability factor. He has it. For whatever reasons. How far that will take him in his political life is unknown. He came thisclose to scoring a monumental upset in the very red state of Texas.

Well! if the Democrats reject the far leftist movement .. then their best option is the most conservative i.e. pro capitalism candidates they can get.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Interesting chart. Thanks for posting.

Yes, but if the field doesn't get any better soon, Hilary may begin to think she has a shot and decide to run.

They REALLY need to get their shit straight before that happens. There's only one thing worse than 4 more years of Trump.... 4 more years of Trump because they let that crazy person run again. Originally Posted by grean

Funny! Funny but true. In 2008, at the point I soured on the Republican party after about 40 years of solid support, my mantra was "Anyone but Hillary". And 8 years later the Democrats could not find a better candidate than her???

You seem to discount the PV vs electoral college.
Thirty state favored Trump and hellerys vote totals came from the populated left coast and Northeast major populated areas...heartland America won for Trump...thankfully mob rule doesn't prevail in this constitutional republic!!
Now it will be your job and the job of the MSM to convince heartland America that Trump is the devil incarnate. Originally Posted by bb1961

The winner of the presidency in this country is the electoral college.

"Heartland America" did NOT win the election for Trump. Those states have always for the most part, and always will for the most part, support the Republican party. The rust belt states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania won the election for Trump. In the recent past those 3 states were solid Democratic. Take away the electoral votes of those 3 states and put them in the Democratic column and Trump loses. The Trump campaign committee deserves credit for focusing on those states and getting them to flip. After the 2018 mid-term elections, it is rather likely those 3 states will flip back to the Democratic side. The number of states a POTUS candidate wins is irrelevant. It is the electoral votes in those states won that matters.

After the 2018 mid-term elections, it is rather likely those 3 states will flip back to the Democratic side. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

And that is sadly not based on any factual estimate at all. Lots of POTUS's have taken a loss or even what was it a "shellacking" in their first midterm in regards to the House in various states and then continued on to re-election in those very same states. Trump actually gained in the Senate which was also against the norm.

It's early and the pundits are already trying to call it.

And that is sadly not based on any factual estimate at all. Lots of POTUS's have taken a loss or even what was it a "shellacking" in their first midterm in regards to the House in various states and then continued on to re-election in those very same states. Trump actually gained in the Senate which was also against the norm.

It's early and the pundits are already trying to call it. Originally Posted by eccielover

It's an educated guess at this point in time. FACT -- Trump won the popular vote in those 3 states by less than 1%. FACT -- Democratic candidates for Senator and Governor in those 3 states won easily, some displacing incumbents. Several House districts flipped from red to blue. FACT -- Trump's approval rating in those 3 states has dropped from around +10% in January 2017 to around -10% in January 2019.

What is significant is that the voter turnout for the 2018 midterm elections was 49.3%, the highest percentage turnout for a midterm election since 1914. Certainly Donald Trump is to thank for that. Voters on both sides were energized. My guess is that the 2020 election turnout will surpass the 60.1% turnout in 2016. Who that will favor is up for debate.

You are certainly correct in that it is way to early to make cast-in-stone predictions. But it is fun to discuss the various issues surrounding the 2020 election. Beats the other discussions going on in my opinion.

You are certainly correct in that it is way to early to make cast-in-stone predictions. But it is fun to discuss the various issues surrounding the 2020 election. Beats the other discussions going on in my opinion. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Yeah, on that we can agree. It is fun looking at the numbers and issues and how they may play out in 2020. 2010 was a historic beat down in terms of overall seats across the board from local to state to federal elected positions and Obama won re-election in 2012. 2018 was largely historic in overall voter numbers and we'll see what happens with Trump in 2020.

A used douchebag beats Trump.

To paraphrase his assholiness ... “No President should ever be a man like that again. Ever. Ever. Ever again.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

then nominate Hillary and let us know how that works out for ya .. again.


BAHAHAAAAAAAA

Hillary/Biden in 2020
Methuselah for Secretary of State
Love it.

Hillary/Biden in 2020
Methuselah for Secretary of State
Love it. Originally Posted by oeb11

Why go for such a youth movement?


How about a Noam Chomsky/Ralph Nader ticket!!?