Hmm, well, the grandfathering thing seems a bit like a fishing expedition. For instance, a woman might put that on an add so that potential clients know she offers special rates for regs. That seems pretty transparent. I'm not saying it's wrong, of course I offer my regs special deals, but that goes unsaid. If you're in well enough with me to have a special rate, you would know about it personally, and not on the off chance you look at my add.
Multi-hour mins.. Seems like another ploy to get more buck for the bang. Why not have a regular 1 hour session and make him hungry for more? From a provider stand point, I wouldn't restrict my clientele to those who can afford 4-6 hundred on a gamble. Like you said, how do you know you'll even want to spend that much time with her? She hasn't proven she can keep you entertained, or if she's good at what you want most..
Now, 15min sessions seem cheap on both ends of the game. I think we as providers should offer more than a quick nut. I strongly believe I am selling a lot more than a body (albeit a hot body), I'm selling an experience, a package. I do offer 30 minute sessions, because as you stated, a lot of gents want to know what I have to offer before investing a couple of hundred on a visit. Now, on more than one occasion I've dropped by a regs house (or office after hours) and had a fun little rendezvous. Again though, this goes back to the "grandfathering" or special treatment for regs. If it was an option, you'd already know about it.
- Calista_Syn
- 03-10-2012, 09:44 PM
- Tiffani Jameson
- 03-11-2012, 04:00 AM
Hmm, well, the grandfathering thing seems a bit like a fishing expedition. For instance, a woman might put that on an add so that potential clients know she offers special rates for regs. That seems pretty transparent. I'm not saying it's wrong, of course I offer my regs special deals, but that goes unsaid. If you're in well enough with me to have a special rate, you would know about it personally, and not on the off chance you look at my add. Originally Posted by Calista_SynI agree with you, but I understand why it's done. When a guy notices a woman that he's seen before has raised her rates, it may turn him away to think that he would have to pay the higher price. Letting men who have seen her before know that they will have the same price as the last time eases their minds.
Personally, I grandfather on a case by case basis.
Multi-hour mins.. Seems like another ploy to get more buck for the bang. Why not have a regular 1 hour session and make him hungry for more? From a provider stand point, I wouldn't restrict my clientele to those who can afford 4-6 hundred on a gamble. Like you said, how do you know you'll even want to spend that much time with her? She hasn't proven she can keep you entertained, or if she's good at what you want most..Some ladies say the same thing about 2 hour dates. That's how you get him to want more, like a dinner date or overnight. Now I want you to listen to yourself speak about 15 minute sessions.
Now, 15min sessions seem cheap on both ends of the game. I think we as providers should offer more than a quick nut. I strongly believe I am selling a lot more than a body (albeit a hot body), I'm selling an experience, a package.This is called reverse elitism. For the same reason you can't see yourself offering 15 minutes other women offer longer minimums. They're just selling a different package, and a different experience. And albeit, to a different customer. Some women conduct themselves so that the select few men that her ads speak to don't have to guess about whether she's worth spending 2 hours with.
We're all companions, no matter how we handle our business. We (hopefully) work the way that works best for us. There are some very smart women that work on every level. We also (hopefully) have a target audience in mind. If you are happy with the way things go for you, I applaud you. If not, I hope you have what it takes to change it.
My darling SL,
don't show such a limited imagination when it comes to longer dates. I'll let you in on a little secret: there are some women that can rock a man's world for hours on end, no matter how low his sperm count. And we don't want to put the men who prefer longer dates in a box either. Sometimes men just want something different. Either way, they don't complain very often.
- Still Looking
- 03-11-2012, 05:45 AM
My darling SL,I couldn't agree with you more TJ. But NOT every provider is like you! If they were, I would schedule multi hour appointments and be totally satisfied having them read me a book. Naked of coarse... Just Sayin... LOL
But then they're not you now are they.....
- Calista_Syn
- 03-11-2012, 04:22 PM
I agree with you, but I understand why it's done. When a guy notices a woman that he's seen before has raised her rates, it may turn him away to think that he would have to pay the higher price. Letting men who have seen her before know that they will have the same price as the last time eases their minds.No one should be placed in any boxes, metaphorically or otherwise. I live by the "whatever floats your boat" motto. Thanks for the response, I much enjoy trading opinions and thoughts with such a well spoken woman. xoxo
Personally, I grandfather on a case by case basis.
I can totally see what you mean. If a repeater sees higher rates than what he has already paid, he could take it badly. Maybe I don't see enough gents to need to advertise that they are exempt from new rates. Anyone who has the option, is someone I talk to on a casual, non business level, so I have no need to put it in my adds.
Some ladies say the same thing about 2 hour dates. That's how you get him to want more, like a dinner date or overnight. Now I want you to listen to yourself speak about 15 minute sessions.
I understand that different ladies see things, and handle business differently, and as long as it's working for them, kudos and keep it up! I personally, don't offer overnights or anything over 2 hours before an initial visit. I think one reason is because I myself don't know if I want to deal with that client for any longer. I don't like it when a date feels like a job, and if we don't "click" or have any chemistry, thats exactly what it will be. I guess I'm a selfish provider, but I want to have a good time too, and I can't do that in a 4 hour session with someone I don't know enough to let loose and be a little dirty with.
This is called reverse elitism. For the same reason you can't see yourself offering 15 minutes other women offer longer minimums. They're just selling a different package, and a different experience. And albeit, to a different customer. Some women conduct themselves so that the select few men that her ads speak to don't have to guess about whether she's worth spending 2 hours with.
Tomato, tomoto, I call it being a realist. I'm not by any means trying to discredit or say no one should do it. I understand the consumer targeting, and marketing strategy being used to pull in "high end" clientele. I'm only speaking for myself. Perhaps the men in other cities haven't been affected by our economic state, but I don't feel like restricting my beaus to those who can afford multiple hundred dollars on a first encounter. Many providers will disagree, but I prefer to have 2-3 clients I visit with for an hour @ $200 twice a month, than 2 a month for 600.. I enjoy getting the attention and love being able to interact more often.
We're all companions, no matter how we handle our business. We (hopefully) work the way that works best for us. There are some very smart women that work on every level. We also (hopefully) have a target audience in mind. If you are happy with the way things go for you, I applaud you. If not, I hope you have what it takes to change it.
Yes, of course, like I said though, I'm only speaking for myself, and my preferences. I'm not insinuating that everyone should operate in the same manner.
My darling SL,
- Calista_Syn
- 03-11-2012, 04:23 PM
By the way, forgive me for not doing the cool separate quotes, I still haven't quite figured the forums out to any literate degree. Sorry if it's all jumbled up 
- SinsOfTheFlesh
- 03-11-2012, 05:30 PM
By the way, forgive me for not doing the cool separate quotes, I still haven't quite figured the forums out to any literate degree. Sorry if it's all jumbled upCalista, I finally, at long last figured out how to do multi-quotes. When you see something you want to quote, click "multiquote" at the bottom of their post. Then move on, keep reading, and when you see something else you want to respond to, click "multiquote" on that person's post.
Click multipost on as many posts as you want. If you change your mind about quoting a post, go back and un-click it.
When you are ready to reply, just click "reply" at the very bottom of the page, and whammo, when the reply screen comes up, all the quotes you click on will be there. Then you just have to find where one quote ends and another begins, start typing your response to the quote, then work your way through the individual quotes. Easy peasy. Only took me a year to figure it out cause I"m such an Einstein! lol
- Still Looking
- 03-11-2012, 05:34 PM
- burkalini
- 03-11-2012, 06:09 PM
Bigger box please. lol
- Calista_Syn
- 03-11-2012, 06:50 PM
Calista, I finally, at long last figured out how to do multi-quotes. When you see something you want to quote, click "multiquote" at the bottom of their post. Then move on, keep reading, and when you see something else you want to respond to, click "multiquote" on that person's post.YEY!! Thanks! Just so happened to get the perfect chance to use it!
Click multipost on as many posts as you want. If you change your mind about quoting a post, go back and un-click it.
When you are ready to reply, just click "reply" at the very bottom of the page, and whammo, when the reply screen comes up, all the quotes you click on will be there. Then you just have to find where one quote ends and another begins, start typing your response to the quote, then work your way through the individual quotes. Easy peasy. Only took me a year to figure it out cause I"m such an Einstein! lol
I'm so easily amazed! I agree! LOL Originally Posted by Still LookingCan always count on you! Personally though, I'd prefer a wrapped, not boxed gift of this kind
- canuckvic
- 03-11-2012, 08:02 PM
I myself don't understand the 15 minute session. Even though I never go for under an hour ever, I can rationalize the 30 minute session. 15 minutes seems like an insult to the SP. IMO
- Tiffani Jameson
- 03-12-2012, 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson
I agree with you, but I understand why it's done. When a guy notices a woman that he's seen before has raised her rates, it may turn him away to think that he would have to pay the higher price. Letting men who have seen her before know that they will have the same price as the last time eases their minds.
Personally, I grandfather on a case by case basis.
I can totally see what you mean. If a repeater sees higher rates than what he has already paid, he could take it badly. Maybe I don't see enough gents to need to advertise that they are exempt from new rates. Anyone who has the option, is someone I talk to on a casual, non business level, so I have no need to put it in my adds.
I agree with this too. I don't see enough new gents to put it in ads. Hell I don't advertise!
Some ladies say the same thing about 2 hour dates. That's how you get him to want more, like a dinner date or overnight. Now I want you to listen to yourself speak about 15 minute sessions.
I understand that different ladies see things, and handle business differently, and as long as it's working for them, kudos and keep it up! I personally, don't offer overnights or anything over 2 hours before an initial visit. I think one reason is because I myself don't know if I want to deal with that client for any longer. I don't like it when a date feels like a job, and if we don't "click" or have any chemistry, thats exactly what it will be. I guess I'm a selfish provider, but I want to have a good time too, and I can't do that in a 4 hour session with someone I don't know enough to let loose and be a little dirty with.
This is what I mean. We ALL work the way we work for a reason. There aren't too many people I couldn't be around because I deal with different types. But that's what screening is for, to see if there's a chemistry. If there's no chemistry, then there's no date.
This is called reverse elitism. For the same reason you can't see yourself offering 15 minutes other women offer longer minimums. They're just selling a different package, and a different experience. And albeit, to a different customer. Some women conduct themselves so that the select few men that her ads speak to don't have to guess about whether she's worth spending 2 hours with.
Tomato, tomoto, I call it being a realist. I'm not by any means trying to discredit or say no one should do it. I understand the consumer targeting, and marketing strategy being used to pull in "high end" clientele. I'm only speaking for myself. Perhaps the men in other cities haven't been affected by our economic state, but I don't feel like restricting my beaus to those who can afford multiple hundred dollars on a first encounter. Many providers will disagree, but I prefer to have 2-3 clients I visit with for an hour @ $200 twice a month, than 2 a month for 600.. I enjoy getting the attention and love being able to interact more often.
That's all any of us can be with ourselves, is real. I appreciate you for being that honest. But darling I don't advertise, I am not skinny, and I'm not young, and I see more than two people a month, and for longer dates. And I completely understand what you mean about limiting, and believe it or not, I'm still very accessible. And "high end" has nothing to do with it. Men pay for what they want. Just like Ms. SOF does 15 minute appointments that work for her schedule I market my companionship to what makes sense to me. Hell, I need a break just like some of these guys do. I do hour appointments as well, but the guys that really get me schedule dinner dates and clock free days.
We're all companions, no matter how we handle our business. We (hopefully) work the way that works best for us. There are some very smart women that work on every level. We also (hopefully) have a target audience in mind. If you are happy with the way things go for you, I applaud you. If not, I hope you have what it takes to change it.
Yes, of course, like I said though, I'm only speaking for myself, and my preferences. I'm not insinuating that everyone should operate in the same manner. No one should be placed in any boxes, metaphorically or otherwise. I live by the "whatever floats your boat" motto. Thanks for the response, I much enjoy trading opinions and thoughts with such a well spoken woman. xoxo
The pleasure is all mine, darling. I am definitely a fan of what makes us all different. And boxes were made for shoes and hats!
- Tiffani Jameson
- 03-12-2012, 04:26 PM
I couldn't agree with you more TJ. But NOT every provider is like you! If they were, I would schedule multi hour appointments and be totally satisfied having them read me a book. Naked of coarse... Just Sayin... LOLNo they aren't, SL.
But then they're not you now are they.....
You are a classic example of a man who has the means to do whatever he wants, but chooses to do things his own way. One would think you should only do dinner dates, and very well could. But you don't deserve to be put in a box either.
Naked prose was a growing theme a couple years back. To me, it detracted from the art. The less clothes a person has on, the less they should have to say.
- Still Looking
- 03-12-2012, 05:02 PM
I'd prefer a wrapped, not boxed gift of this kindI wrap mine all the time! I can deliver to the front door or back! I'm easy that way! Hell I'm damn near FTD LOL
No they aren't, SL.Am I the only one who gets a woody reading your posts?
You are a classic example of a man who has the means to do whatever he wants, but chooses to do things his own way. One would think you should only do dinner dates, and very well could. But you don't deserve to be put in a box either.
Naked prose was a growing theme a couple years back. To me, it detracted from the art. The less clothes a person has on, the less they should have to say.
- Shayla
- 03-12-2012, 06:17 PM
- tonytiger4u
- 03-12-2012, 06:58 PM
I've had hour sessions last 15 min. Couldn't wait to flee. Does that count? LOL!!
Multi hour dates are expensive but really the only way to achieve the motherload. Foreplay builds and builds and.... I don't remember what happens next. But it's goooood!!
Multi hour dates are expensive but really the only way to achieve the motherload. Foreplay builds and builds and.... I don't remember what happens next. But it's goooood!!