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You were The Operator aka OP before you were banned . But then you created your second handle. Dogface, which by the way is against the rules, to get around your ban

Don't know the rules - here they are.

#17 - Multiple handles are not permitted, unless in certain circumstances are expressly approved by staff in advance on a case-by-case basis. Action will be taken in cases where staff finds multiple handles are being used for deceptive reasons, to carry out an agenda (promotion or trashing of another), or to return to the board following a previous suspension or ban.

But you knew that - hence why you try to she away from people calling you The operator. You don't want your new handle banned again for breaking the rules once again Originally Posted by berryberry

I don't know what your talking about, but I bet all the kids loved you in school.

I don't know what your talking about, but I bet all the kids loved you in school. Originally Posted by Dogface78

Ahhh but you do Operator, you do.
Thats ok - your secret is safe here with me from the moderators

And yes, I was indeed well liked in school

Wow I'm impressed that's quite an essay. Originally Posted by Dogface78

Boy, I'll say. That was a thoughtful, high quality post. I would add that at least people like HDGristle and myself are open-minded on the subject. People like berryberry have seized on a few anecdotes and stretched the definition of human trafficking to the point where it is a meaningless catch-all one, in order to jump to the sweeping conclusion that trafficking is rampant in all amps. Their minds are made up. That's obvious from berryberry's statement "you were wrong then and wrong now". Sorry kid, I ain't taking the bait.

Like I said, we already had this convo 4 years ago. Anyone with Premium Access and an open mind can read what was said back then. There were thoughtful and intelligent comments by people with a lot of direct first-hand experience with the Pittsburgh amp scene, as well as a Texas monger with intimate knowledge of the lifestyles of amp girls and independent asian escorts in his state.

You were The Operator aka OP before you were banned. But then you created your second handle. Dogface, which by the way is against the rules, to get around your ban... Originally Posted by berryberry

Who cares? The Op has been gone for years. Whatever ban he received would have expired by now. They only hand out perma-bans to unrepentant recidivist assholes like tatasddd. Anyone miss that burger-flipping, kumquat-stuffed, bulgarian gay porn star drama queen?

Finally, the Pgh forum is a good read this week!!!!!

Boy, I'll say. That was a thoughtful, high quality post. I would add that at least people like HDGristle and myself are open-minded on the subject. People like berryberry have seized on a few anecdotes and stretched the definition of human trafficking to the point where it is a meaningless catch-all one, in order to jump to the sweeping conclusion that trafficking is rampant in all amps. Their minds are made up. That's obvious from berryberry's statement "you were wrong then and wrong now". Sorry kid, I ain't taking the bait.

Like I said, we already had this convo 4 years ago. Anyone with Premium Access and an open mind can read what was said back then. There were thoughtful and intelligent comments by people with a lot of direct first-hand experience with the Pittsburgh amp scene, as well as a Texas monger with intimate knowledge of the lifestyles of amp girls and independent asian escorts in his state. Originally Posted by lustylad

You open minded on the subject Lusty - LOL. You are only open minded to things that support what you want to believe.

And that BS claim of yours that I "stretched the definition of human trafficking to the point where it is a meaningless catch-all one". Are you talking about the definition I posted which is the ACTUAL International Law definition from the United Nations on trafficking?

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human...afficking.html

I guess the official definition from the "United Nations Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, Especially Women and Children " is just not acceptable in your eyes. And you say you are open minded - right.

Next falsehood of yours - please show me exactly where in this thread I "jump to the sweeping conclusion that trafficking is rampant in all amps". Come on - I will wait. Show me the post and exact quote saying this

Finally, yes anyone truly interested should go back and read that thread from 4 years ago. They will see I posted data, links and real quotes and other information from respected sources and agencies that deal with combating human trafficking. Lusty posted - umm his own mixed up thoughts and conjecture and cheering of another random monger or two that said something he tried to twist to support his position

Who cares? The Op has been gone for years. Whatever ban he received would have expired by now. They only hand out perma-bans to unrepentant recidivist assholes like tatasddd. Anyone miss that burger-flipping, kumquat-stuffed, bulgarian gay porn star drama queen? Originally Posted by lustylad

Just calling out lies and bullshit where I see it. IDGAF if the Operator is going by Dogface now but when he lies about it, he is going to get called out.

You know The Operator and Dogface are the same person. I know that. A number of people here know that.

So Dogface should be straight with people here rather than trying to hide and lie about his second handle

Just calling out lies and bullshit where I see it. IDGAF if the Operator is going by Dogface now but when he lies about it, he is going to get called out.

You know The Operator and Dogface are the same person. I know that. A number of people here know that.

So Dogface should be straight with people here rather than trying to hide and lie about his second handle Originally Posted by berryberry

You certainly do seem to GAF, your like a beagle on a rabbit.
Frankly IDGAF what you think, but I am getting tired of your baseless accusations in your relentless pursuit of truth and justice, this is an internet hooker board nobody on here owes you shit let alone the fucking truth, perhaps that short circuits your wiring but IDGAF about that either!
And to accuse my wife and I of human trafficking in our LEAGLE business, your fucked up dude!
Why because my wife's Asian, that seems pretty racist to me!
Isn't there rules against racism too rule boy?
Human trafficking is not just a crime it is an abomination against humanity, it is fucked up enough that you accused me of this shit but include my wife, Fuck You! You know nothing at all about either of us but yet again you made baseless accusations against us.
If our girls so much as give a hj and she finds out my wife fires them, I'm the whore not her!
So go ahead do it again, I will certainly bring the mods in.

Now once again real slow, Dogfsce78... is.. .. not... the.... operator, now go ahead dispute that without concrete proof!
perhaps I should consult the rules regarding stalking and harassment.
Rule boy!

One more thing Berry, if my being here bothers you so much and we both know it does, well that just made my world a little bit better!
Now get the fuck off of my cloud!

Lusty Lad knows everything, that's quite apparent.

My info came primarily from a lawyer involved in the defense of clients, and he had an open book from the DA to see what evidence they had against 7 AMPs in the case he was involved in.

J Spa, alone took in over 1.5 million according to the tax records, most of it cash, the Asian restaurant thing, from people who rent to the people running it, they had 12 people living upstairs, all on welfare, the only cash they kept was to pay the rent, one of the kids went to school with our daughter, and he complained about all the people living in his small apartment.

Another case was a different renter who was helping the people running the restaurant get their kids on welfare, and free lunches, they had a DVD that showed them how to apply for public assistance, given to them by their importers, but weren't literate enough to figure out our system.

There are Great walls, for example all over the place, ours locally gets their supplies delivered from NYC, probably who takes all the cash back to the real owners as well, every wonder why every take out asian place has similar pictures on the walls and menus? Because they are all being run by a few large operators, the Korean and Asian Banks, AKA the Asian mafia.

Sure, there are exceptions, and I stated that, we have a local Chinese place that was run for years by an Asian family, they made their money, sold the place, and moved back to Korea, allegedly sold to another young Asian family, and they are doing the same thing, including living off the government, tutors and translators cost the local school district 80 grand per year for each of the kids, until they could use english well enough to get by.

Not stating where the info came from, but someone high enough up in the school to know about their situation.

OF course I'm sure that some come here honestly, but Chinese bank owners sending over their wives to give hand jobs???

I doubt it.

My favorite story was from my yellow page rep back in the day, he had a Chicom restaraunt, not even all that big, that had a full page ad in the burgh yellow pages.

13,000 thousand a month in advertising costs, he claimed they had to do it to get business, come on....

They had to be laundering drug or whoring money and needed the expense costs to justify having a huge income, seriously.

You certainly do seem to GAF, your like a beagle on a rabbit.
Frankly IDGAF what you think, but I am getting tired of your baseless accusations in your relentless pursuit of truth and justice, this is an internet hooker board nobody on here owes you shit let alone the fucking truth, perhaps that short circuits your wiring but IDGAF about that either!
And to accuse my wife and I of human trafficking in our LEAGLE business, your fucked up dude!
Why because my wife's Asian, that seems pretty racist to me!
Isn't there rules against racism too rule boy?
Human trafficking is not just a crime it is an abomination against humanity, it is fucked up enough that you accused me of this shit but include my wife, Fuck You! You know nothing at all about either of us but yet again you made baseless accusations against us.
If our girls so much as give a hj and she finds out my wife fires them, I'm the whore not her!
So go ahead do it again, I will certainly bring the mods in.

Now once again real slow, Dogfsce78... is.. .. not... the.... operator, now go ahead dispute that without concrete proof!
perhaps I should consult the rules regarding stalking and harassment.
Rule boy!

One more thing Berry, if my being here bothers you so much and we both know it does, well that just made my world a little bit better!
Now get the fuck off of my cloud! Originally Posted by Dogface78

Dear Operator / Dogface

You seem quite angry. Have you ever looked into relaxation techniques or anger management classes? I am worried about you.

I stand by every statement I made on this thread - including keeping your secret of dual handles. But it seems some things have hit home with you and your "LEAGLE" business

Dude you don't even know how to spell Legal
But keep pretending it isn't a jack shack.
And keep pretending that trafficking doesn't occur in AMPS in this area. Hell, you earlier showed you don't even understand every form of trafficking that exists.

But sure - you go on and rant if it makes you feel better Operator, err I mean Dogface

I have been trying to relax a bit so that the discussions could flow on their own without Staff interjection. Lets allow that to continue..

Next falsehood of yours - please show me exactly where in this thread I "jump to the sweeping conclusion that trafficking is rampant in all amps". Come on - I will wait. Show me the post and exact quote saying this Originally Posted by berryberry

Seriously?

We are all adults here. We all make our own choices and have our own morality. But trafficking does exist and AMPs are rampant in trafficked women Originally Posted by berryberry

Just calling out lies and bullshit where I see it. IDGAF if the Operator is going by Dogface now but when he lies about it, he is going to get called out...

So Dogface should be straight with people here rather than trying to hide and lie about his second handle Originally Posted by berryberry

There's a frequent poster in the Political Forum who likes to call out others for alleged rules violations, trying to get them pointed or banned because that's easier than engaging them in careful debate.

His handle is wtf. Bambino and I call him Snitchy the Hall Monitor. Any chance you two could be related?

I have been trying to relax a bit so that the discussions could flow on their own without Staff interjection. Lets allow that to continue.. Originally Posted by dj8rocks

Yep, guess you win Berry, when the mods are on your side who can stand against you right?
If I had done what your doing to another member that would have been dealt with quickly!
I guess some pigs are more equal Than others.
So by attacking my wife does that mean that anybody else's family member is also fair game, or just mine because she's Asian and we own a massage parlor so automatically we must be human traffickers!
Just curious how do you stereotype blacks and Latinos?
Are all blacks drug dealers?
And our president laims that Latinos drug mules or rapists?
So how can that be wrong, right?
And dj8 how far would you allow that to progress?
And IDGAF who you think I am, I know what you are!
Every thing spelled OK for you Berry?