DIXIEism, RIP. Date of passing 1/20/2021. The corpse needs to be buried, but no action necessary, they're digging their own grave. Originally Posted by reddog1951When soundly defeated some resort to insults and/or nonsense posts!
But Greene just folded from her position, admitting defeat. The "Greene's" or should I say "The Greene" because there is only one of her, will have no further impact on the Republican party. Not one single Republican supported her ideas but they didn't want to give up her vote, will not split the party. Literally nobody believed her or supported her ideas. The only thing that could split the party is a Trump faction against the "not Trump faction". But since Trump's personality and not his policies were the issue for many, it is easy to see, at least for me, somebody to take up Trump's positions on immigration, tough on China, law and order without his abrasive personality, could easily bring the party together.All 74 million people who voted for Trump are not extremists. However some of them are. AS there are extremists on the other side of the fence as well. But they are not currently dangerous like the Trumpies that still believe the election was stolen and that storming the Capitol was the right thing to do. We cannot allow this sort of thing to happen.
I basically agree with that. Except I believe Trump was more like a religious fanatic cult leader. Like him or hate him, there is no denying he could really incite the masses. That does not mean the next one in line has to be just like him though. But I do believe he or she will need to have a somewhat magnetic personality. Sort of like Trump's but hopefully without any of the arrogant abrasiveness. None of the current pretenders to this throne (Curz, Hawley, Green or Pence for example) do not have this sort of personality
Bringing Greene to heal just proved that. Contrary to what Democrats and the MSM would like Americans to believe, Republicans do not support Qanon, White Supremacist or the KKK, none. These issues will not splinter the Republicans party because they are not issues in the party, only in the minds of Democrats and the MSM.
I personally do not believe the majority of Republicans support Quanon, White Supremacy or the KKK. However, I do believe that the overwhelming majority of Trump's diehard base supporters do subscribe to these ideas.
I believe there are many more issues that could splinter Democrats and they are becoming more evident everyday. Look at the politicians turning on Teacher's Unions. If Biden keeps trying not to offend the Teachers Union, he could pay a price with the majority of parents that want their children back in school. What happens if teacher's go on strike? And the Democrat party takes their side? Good for Republicans.
What happens if the border becomes over run and literally thousands of people, some with Covid, get released into the country because there is no place to hold them. It's already started. Catch and Release, is again the policy of the US. At what point might Americans start to say, "this isn't what I voted for"?
So just how do you propose to stop this from happening? And don't even try to tell me we need a freaking border wall. A mostly unmanned wall like that would be just like the locks on your front door. It would only keep out the honest people.
At what point will the rise in crime that will surely come with Biden's and Progressives policies, start to make Americans say "this isn't what I voted for"?
This is a very misguided assumption. According to the following article, overall crime statics have plummeted in the US since 1993. This period includes the entire terms of Clinton and Obama (16 years) and the terms of W and Trump(12 years).
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...me-in-the-u-s/
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This could make McCarthyism look like a walk in the park. We are talking about the possibility of labeling 74 million people as extremist. Where do we think that might lead? Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Again, I'm neither Democrat norOPRepublican, but if the Republicans don't get their shit together, or if the Greene's, Trump's, Winn's and OEB succeed in splintering the party into two groups, the Republicans will not be able to take the house back in 2022, nor will the "Patriot Party". If I'm fortunate enough to still be living then, I'll be happy to say I told you so. Originally Posted by reddog1951
You could take Greene’s IQ and Maxine Waters IQ, add them together, and still be in double digits.I now take back what I wrote in this post.
There are total morons o both ends of the political spectrum, and morons that vote for them. Originally Posted by Jackie S
I will not comment on everything you wrote here but will pick and choose a few items instead
All 74 million people who voted for Trump are not extremists. However some of them are. AS there are extremists on the other side of the fence as well. But they are not currently dangerous like the Trumpies that still believe the election was stolen and that storming the Capitol was the right thing to do. We cannot allow this sort of thing to happen.
That's why it is important Trump be impeached or at the very least banned from ever holding office again. I wasn't totally on board with the first impeachment but definitely am this time.
He definitely committed impeachable offenses this time. The fact that they happened late in his term doesn't change a thing. Trump needs to be punished for what he did, period, end of sentence. If things like this are allowed to happen and go unchecked, then I believe we are closer to the end of this country than we are to the beginning of it. Originally Posted by Jam3768
For anyone who would care to opine, who is kookier, Maxine Waters or Marjorie Taylor Greene? Who would do more damage to America as president, Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders?Vegas odds has both races as a toss-up
My personal belief is that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a lot kookier, and Bernie Sanders would do a lot more damage. Originally Posted by Tiny
Very well said jam. I imagine you are a very capable debater. Too bad you don't have competent responders that can at least for complete English sentences, much less stay on subject and reply logically. Of course,it is later in the evening so they may be undergoing daily therapy. Originally Posted by reddog1951Tyvm rd.
The real answer is much simpler. Republicans need the kook vote. They need the extremists. They need the religinuts. They need the racists. They need the Q folks. Alienating them would mean they lose election after election. When your coalition is made up of some of the worst people in order to bolster the “real republicans” you can’t come out against the crazy out of fear of losing. Originally Posted by 1blackman1I dunno, we'll see how it all pans out. The last 5 years have been interesting because both Dems and the GOP reached out to their violent, authoritarian fringes rather than tussle for the center like they usually do. I personally blame that on the internet, since the extreme fringe voices are the ones that get the most attention. I think the establishment is lamenting giving any of that noise the spotlight, and is trying to pull things back to a moderate globalist approach.
