blame it on Joe

Speedy, the DNC sent over 600 lawyers before the 2020 elections to change the rules. Not one of those rule changes was ratified by state legislatures. Which makes those changes unconstitutional. There’s no arguing against that. It’s a fact. And to suggest those DNC lawyers didn’t favor the Democrats is just silly. Originally Posted by bambino

It is true that 600 lawyers were assembled by Biden and the DNC but from what I've read, and I challenge you to find contradicting statements from an UNBIASED source, those lawyers were assembled to guard against voter suppression by Trump, not to go out and change the voting rules. This hiring of lawyers started in the July timeframe, probably after voting changes were already in affect.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden told supporters Wednesday night his campaign assembled a team of 600 lawyers to fight against efforts he expects from President Donald Trump to limit voter participation in the upcoming election.

The team of 600 lawyers, along with 10,000 volunteers, would be in every state to figure out if any "chicanery is likely to take place."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/5362546002/

And the Democrats were not alone in this:

President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden with help from allies have amassed an expansive legal war chest and marshaled armies of attorneys for what is on track to be the most litigated election season in U.S. history.

The Republican National Committee (RNC) has pledged $20 million this cycle to oppose Democratic-backed efforts to ease voting restrictions while Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said his campaign has assembled 600 attorneys as a bulwark against election subterfuge.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...al-battlefield

And consider this:

Several battleground states controlled by Republicans have pushed for big changes in voting and election laws in recent months, in the wake of former President Donald Trump's electoral loss and a rise in mail-in voting due to the coronavirus pandemic.

These states are considering changes to election laws, such as measures to enforce additional ID requirements, restrict access to dropboxes and shrink the pool of voters.

Arizona, Florida, and Texas each have growing and increasingly diverse populations and play a substantial role in the outcome of presidential contests. All three have Republican legislatures and governorships. Michigan has a Democratic governor, but its Republican-controlled legislature is considering several bills that could make absentee voting more difficult.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electio...ground-states/

It is true that 600 lawyers were assembled by Biden and the DNC but from what I've read, and I challenge you to find contradicting statements from an UNBIASED source, those lawyers were assembled to guard against voter suppression by Trump, not to go out and change the voting rules. This hiring of lawyers started in the July timeframe, probably after voting changes were already in affect.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden told supporters Wednesday night his campaign assembled a team of 600 lawyers to fight against efforts he expects from President Donald Trump to limit voter participation in the upcoming election.

The team of 600 lawyers, along with 10,000 volunteers, would be in every state to figure out if any "chicanery is likely to take place."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/5362546002/

And the Democrats were not alone in this:

President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden with help from allies have amassed an expansive legal war chest and marshaled armies of attorneys for what is on track to be the most litigated election season in U.S. history.

The Republican National Committee (RNC) has pledged $20 million this cycle to oppose Democratic-backed efforts to ease voting restrictions while Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said his campaign has assembled 600 attorneys as a bulwark against election subterfuge.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...al-battlefield

And consider this:

Several battleground states controlled by Republicans have pushed for big changes in voting and election laws in recent months, in the wake of former President Donald Trump's electoral loss and a rise in mail-in voting due to the coronavirus pandemic.

These states are considering changes to election laws, such as measures to enforce additional ID requirements, restrict access to dropboxes and shrink the pool of voters.

Arizona, Florida, and Texas each have growing and increasingly diverse populations and play a substantial role in the outcome of presidential contests. All three have Republican legislatures and governorships. Michigan has a Democratic governor, but its Republican-controlled legislature is considering several bills that could make absentee voting more difficult.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electio...ground-states/ Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Speedy, you just linked 3 MSM sources. You consider them “unbiased”? At least TGP admits they’re conservative. But they post other sources which you consider “unbiased”. I’ve posted many links to what happened in the swing states. I watched the hearings live in those states. Voting laws where changed without going thru the legislatures. I know this to be fact.

States updating/changing voter laws, particularly before an election isn't the problem. If memory serves, the times those laws are often updated are either just before an election or just after, I take it to be a presence of mind thing.

The specific problem in this case was the handful of states that made changes and didn't properly ratify them in line with their state's constitutional process. That could be considered a simple mistake, but there were several of them, and when opposition was raised, politically aligned judges dismissed the cases. That would be the malfeasance. Originally Posted by GastonGlock

There are only 5 states that really matter -- Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Your point is valid but I don't know how many of those 5 states did what you are accusing them of doing -- not properly ratifying the changes in line with their state's constitutional process. I do remember one of the five, I believe Michigan, being accused of doing that.

This article cites 8 states -- 4 Republican and 4 Democratic --that had lawsuits regarding voting about a week before the election. The lawsuits in Wi, Pa, and Mi had to do with how long after the election absentee ballots should be accepted. I don't know how true your statement is that "politically aligned judges dismissed the cases."

Speedy, you just linked 3 MSM sources. You consider them “unbiased”? At least TGP admits they’re conservative. But they post other sources which you consider “unbiased”. I’ve posted many links to what happened in the swing states. I watched the hearings live in those states. Voting laws where changed without going thru the legislatures. I know this to be fact. Originally Posted by bambino

You tell me what statements made by the 3 sources I cited that are incorrect.

As I've tried to show you on multiple occasions, the MSM when they simply report the news do a rather honest job of doing that. They show bias when they get into their editorials.

So again I ask -- what information in the 3 articles cited do llyou consider to be incorrect?

You tell me what statements made by the 3 sources I cited that are incorrect.

As I've tried to show you on multiple occasions, the MSM when they simply report the news do a rather honest job of doing that. They show bias when they get into their editorials.

So again I ask -- what information in the 3 articles cited do llyou consider to be incorrect? Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You haven’t disproved any of TGP links I’ve posted.

You really expect people to go the links you post and waste time reading them ?
They are just hit pieces.

https://t.me/RealDonaldoTrumpo/622

https://youtu.be/HtIATcYif24

You haven’t disproved any of TGP links I’ve posted. Originally Posted by bambino

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused, to prove there is truth to the accusations. TGP makes wild accusations with nothing to back them up.

The statements made in the 3 articles I cited are anything but wild accusations. I don't even think there is anything the least bit controversial in them. They seem to be legitimate statements of probable fact. Again, if you believe any of the statements to be incorrect let me know. Third time I've asked.

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused, to prove there is truth to the accusations. TGP makes wild accusations with nothing to back them up.

The statements made in the 3 articles I cited are anything but wild accusations. I don't even think there is anything the least bit controversial in them. They seem to be legitimate statements of probable fact. Again, if you believe any of the statements to be incorrect let me know. Third time I've asked. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You’re accusing them of lying. According to your logic, prove them wrong. But you can’t. Because they use some of the same sources you approve of. Like the Kerry tapes I posted from TGP. They were quoting the NYT. You should read them before accusing them of lying. Make an informed statement.

Some posters remind me of the politicians they support. Vote on a bill then read whats in it!

I give President Biden an A for his greatest accomplishment.......that being,

Keeping that lying, despicable, money grubbing, sexual predator enabling cunt Trump out of the White House.

That will do for the moment.

I give President Biden an A for his greatest accomplishment.......that being,

Keeping that lying, despicable, money grubbing, sexual predator enabling cunt Trump out of the White House.

That will do for the moment. Originally Posted by matchingmole

Do you know any other songs than "Orange Man Bad"?

I have a hard time mentally constructing the derangement necessary to dislike someone so much that a self-harming choice is more preferable. It's like saying you dislike broccoli so much that you'd rather be punched in the face than eat it.

Joe grunts like an old codger!!


https://youtu.be/_4zIRagPqB8



What a disaster.

I give President Biden an A for his greatest accomplishment.......that being,

Keeping that lying, despicable, money grubbing, sexual predator enabling cunt Trump out of the White House.

That will do for the moment. Originally Posted by matchingmole

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