I have no idea what the penalties would be for ignoring military protocol. Do you have experience in this area?
Originally Posted by bambino
While I spent 4 years on active duty in the Navy, I do not have any experience on protocol in this area. Having said that, how in the world could/ would it be protocol to taxi down a runway with civilians running along side and clinging to a military transport? How could flight protocol possible allow that kind of chaos and continue flight operations?
This is like the central question being asked and it doesn't take having been in the military much less a strategic analyst to know that you don't remove the soldiers before you start the evacuation and then suddenly realize you must put the soldiers back and start operations before the runway/ airport is secure..
This incident is IMHO, like that. It is common sense that takes no military experience to understand that you do not roll down a runway with civilians swarming the plane. What possible justification could that pilot have for ignoring those people and taking off with the almost certain probability that there would be injury or death.
I know for a fact that military personnel have been court marshaled for failing to consider the well being of the civilians in their care.
I can't imagine how this pilot doesn't get a reprimand or worse for his or her decision to keep going knowing civilians were in danger from his or her actions.
We are better than this or at least I thought we were. It's easy to make fun of people and call them stupid for doing what they did but you don't think some of them thought to themselves, "I'd rather die than face the Taliban"? Not that hard for me to imagine.
Did you hear the heart breaking story of the mother, a Afghan who apparently had the right papers to get out, was trampled by the crowd outside the gate where she had made it with her husband and 2 year old daughter. The child was trampled to death! Another woman was accosted by the Taliban and had all her teeth knocked out.
It didn't have to be this way. I'm disgusted at what Joe Biden has done to America. The damage he has done, is immeasurable not only in the eyes of our allies but to the future of or continuing fight against Islamic terrorist.
Thousands of Al Qaeda, and ISIS fighters have now been released from Afghan jails. While we are talking about the "moderate Taliban" now in charge, did anybody in the Taliba tell ISIS and Al Qaeda that they have a "deal" with the Americans?
It is being reported to night that the "TSA" that rings the airport are full of Haqqani fighters.
https://www.voanews.com/south-centra...kabul-security
Hardline Haqqani Network Put in Charge of Kabul Security
The Taliban has placed security for the Afghan capital, Kabul, in the hands of senior members of the Haqqani Network, which has close ties with foreign jihadist groups including a long-standing association with al-Qaida.
Western intelligence officials say the assignment is alarming and undercuts Taliban promises to tread a more moderate path than the movement did when it ruled the country from 1996 to 2001.
It also raises the prospect of al-Qaida being welcomed back to Afghanistan, they fear, which would break promises made by Taliban leaders during diplomatic talks in Qatar with U.S. officials last year, not to allow the country to again become a safe haven for foreign jihadists.
On Thursday, Abdullah Abdullah, chairman of Afghanistan’s National Reconciliation Council, a body of notables and elders involved in the Qatar talks, met with Khalil al-Rahman Haqqani and his entourage in Kabul. Abdullah later indicated publicly that Khalil al-Rahman Haqqani would be overseeing security in the Afghan capital and had provided assurances that he would “work hard to provide the right security for the citizens of Kabul.”
The U.S. Department of the Treasury designated Khalil al-Rahman Haqqani a global terrorist in February 2011, offering a $5 million reward for information leading to his capture. He’s also included on the United Nations terrorist list.
The meeting between Abdullah and Khalil al-Rahman Haqqani came hours before the Taliban declared the formation of an Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
“The fact we have Khalil al-Rahman Haqqani in charge of Kabul security is dismaying,” a British intelligence official told VOA on the condition of anonymity. “The Haqqani and al-Qaida have a long history together, you could argue they are intertwined, and it is highly unlikely they will cut ties.”
Retired senior British diplomat Ivor Roberts told VOA that assigning members of the Haqqani network to oversee the security of Kabul is akin to the “fox being put in charge of a chicken coop.”
Roberts, a senior adviser at the Counter Extremism Project, a non-profit network that researches extremist groups, said he was surprised at the move. “I thought from the PR point of view, the Taliban was being a bit smarter than that,” he said.
“Instead, they're putting forward the worst elements of their loose coalition, which sends a terrible signal to women, girls and civil society. And I think it increases the possibility of Afghanistan becoming a breeding ground for international terrorism again.”
He added, “I don't think they will ever cut ties with al-Qaida. They're deeply embedded with al-Qaida and always have been."
So Al Qaeda, the group we were sent to Afghanistan to eliminate, that Joe Biden says doesn't exist in Afghanistan, is running security at the airport. Let that sink in for a minute.
Joe Biden has disgraced the memory of everybody that died on 9/11 and he did "THIS" so that he could stand up and say "I got us out of Afghanistan by the anniversary of 9/11".
Biden as Commander in Chief should be Court Marshaled and then impeached.
