This blood is on senile Biden's hands as well as the hands of every idiot who voted for him

Not going to categorize an entire people like that because of fuckers like the Taliban or ISIS-K

Yeah, until I get some kind of moderation intervention explaining to me why it isn't, I'm going to have to continue to assert that in a thread that literally says that blood is on the hands of voters because of the current president's military decisions it is absolutely on topic to compare that to the atrocities that have been committed by this country's leadership in that region for a long time. I get an explanation of how I'm breaking a rule though? Then I will totally accept that. Originally Posted by anmar85

You have been asked nicely to stay on topic several times and refuse to do so. This thread is about lives lost because of a botched withdrawal plan by Senile Biden. He can’t explain removing the military before the civilians or giving the Taliban a kill list of Americans and Afghanis. He can’t explain abandoning Bagram, etc.

No one in this thread is rehashing the past 20 years - this thread is about the botched withdrawal plan. So please stay on topic

"[You] then rolled your fucking eyes in your head like you were annoyed..." the Gold Star Mom wrote in a message to Biden after meeting with him.

"You threw your hand up behind you as you walked away from me like you were saying, 'ok whatever.'"

https://independentchronicle.com/gol...his-fing-eyes/

You have been asked nicely to stay on topic several times and refuse to do so. This thread is about lives lost because of a botched withdrawal plan by Senile Biden. He can’t explain removing the military before the civilians or giving the Taliban a kill list of Americans and Afghanis. He can’t explain abandoning Bagram, etc.

No one in this thread is rehashing the past 20 years - this thread is about the botched withdrawal plan. So please stay on topic Originally Posted by berryberry

Keep to your own topic. This was your opening premise and your opening remarks

Over 10,000 Americans remain in Afghanistan and won't be able to get out.

The Taliban will hunt them down and execute them with no one to stop them and no press to show this. Senile Biden knows this but doesn't give a fuck about American citizens. He just wants this out of the news because it makes him look bad

How many ended up being evacuated by the 31st or left in other ways than the airport? How many remain? How many were killed? How many were legitimately escorted by the Taliban to the airport? Turned away?

Looking at ALL of that is one thing. Placing it into context against the totality of loss is germane to test your conviction and logic regarding how to assign blame. How YOU'RE asigning blame.

By all means smash that RTM button over a legitimate question that you don't like and have no answer for. Tell him he's off topic trying to probe you to understand and question whether the premise is sound.

Also remember that you started name-calling in your title.

There’s a lot of sentiment out there that blood is on Biden’s hands;

https://t.me/RealGenFlynn/659

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You have been asked nicely to stay on topic several times and refuse to do so. This thread is about lives lost because of a botched withdrawal plan by Senile Biden. He can’t explain removing the military before the civilians or giving the Taliban a kill list of Americans and Afghanis. He can’t explain abandoning Bagram, etc.

No one in this thread is rehashing the past 20 years - this thread is about the botched withdrawal plan. So please stay on topic Originally Posted by berryberry

The title of the topic is "This blood is on senile Biden's hands as well as the hands of every idiot who voted for him"


I'm retorting that assertion with the fact that thousands of innocent people have been injured or killed due to questionable military decisions by US leadership in that region during the course of the war. Then I am using that assertion to question how far the logic of the topic's title goes. Does that logic extend to previous leadership and the people that voted them into office or not? If that is somehow off topic then please explain how or report me and have moderation explain how.

The title of the topic is "This blood is on senile Biden's hands as well as the hands of every idiot who voted for him"


I'm retorting that assertion with the fact that thousands of innocent people have been injured or killed due to questionable military decisions by US leadership in that region during the course of the war. Then I am using that assertion to question how far the logic of the topic's title goes. Does that logic extend to previous leadership and the people that voted them into office or not? If that is somehow off topic then please explain how or report me and have moderation explain how. Originally Posted by anmar85

That’s a topic for another thread. You can answer the OPs question in one sentence. We were evacuating. Not in an aggressive war stance. A defensive one. The war was over. Was Biden’s plan to withdrawal successfull. That’s the question. Not what aboutism. You’re trying to make it that.

This is Joey Bribe’s plan and his alone. He ignored advice from his Military and IC consultants. He’s lied repeatedly. Americans died and were wounded and it’s not over yet. I can say unequivocally, Biden has blood on his hands. The Who voted for him? I want go there. Naive for sure. Uninformed? Yes. Stupid? One can argue that.

I mean it's kind of hard to say that the current situation isn't at all related to the past 20+ years. Like the current situation in Afghanistan doesn't exist in some bubble where recent history just doesn't exist. I think drawing those comparisons are totally on topic in this discussion. The US leaving innocent people out to dry in Afghanistan has kind of been the status quo for a long time now. Originally Posted by anmar85

typical liberal deflection, and so predictable, find something thats so very distantly related or the substance is similar and push the original thought into a grey area or off on another totally separate tangent. Dont look at the atrocity of americans dying or going to die look in another direction. When one cannot accept the truth of something then he must rationalize and deflect . well the truth just hit you square between the eyes if they are even open.

and this guy is so unconscious to his response because he is trained to auto deflect and protect the democrat pov without even looking at the truth of the matter, hes on auto spin and probably doesnt even realize it , libs are so automatic and predictable

and to compare this so called echo chamber to the echo chambers of the entire liberal media ,print ,culture and entertainment echo chambers is so inane and asinine i can only hope it is a reflection of the intelligence and comprehension of the typical democrat voter.

Biden has blood on his hands. The Who voted for him? I want go there. Naive for sure. Uninformed? Yes. Stupid? One can argue that. Originally Posted by bambino

That's fine that you won't go there, but that's literally the topic of this thread. It's right there in the title. I'm not trying to make this into whataboutism, but if the title of the thread is that the blood of this action is on the voters' hands, then I'm going to have to contest that the aggressive and questionable actions during the course of the war would have to be on voters' hands as well according to that line of logic. If someone disagrees with that, then I'm more than happy to hear them out on why.


To simplify it as to how it relates to the topic again. The topic at hand is that Joe Biden's voter base shares a degree of the responsibility for his actions in Afghanistan. If that's the case, then who shares the brunt of responsibility for questionable military decisions in the past, present, and future? I mean after all, this isn't an echo chamber, so I assume this line of thinking would welcome a broader discussion beyond "Old man bad"

typical liberal deflection, and so predictable, find something thats so very distantly related or the substance is similar and push the original thought into a grey area or off on another totally separate tangent.

and this guy is so unconscious to his response because he is trained to auto deflect and protect the democrat pov without even looking at the truth of the matter, hes on auto spin and probably doesnt even realize it , libs are so automatic and predictable

and to compare this so called echo chamber to the echo chambers of the entire liberal media ,print ,culture and entertainment echo chambers is so inane and asinine i can only hope it is a reflection of the intelligence and comprehension of the typical democrat voter. Originally Posted by mrmxmr

Yeah, you got the wrong dude here. I'm proudly an independent. In my life I've voted everywhere from the Green Party to the Libertarians. I'm just trying to place the logic of this thread into some kind of historical context.

That's fine that you won't go there, but that's literally the topic of this thread. It's right there in the title. I'm not trying to make this into whataboutism, but if the title of the thread is that the blood of this action is on the voters' hands, then I'm going to have to contest that the aggressive and questionable actions during the course of the war would have to be on voters' hands as well according to that line of logic. If someone disagrees with that, then I'm more than happy to hear them out on why.


To simplify it as to how it relates to the topic again. The topic at hand is that Joe Biden's voter base shares a degree of the responsibility for his actions in Afghanistan. If that's the case, then who shares the brunt of responsibility for questionable military decisions in the past, present, and future? I mean after all, this isn't an echo chamber, so I assume this line of thinking would welcome a broader discussion beyond "Old man bad"






Yeah, you got the wrong dude here. I'm proudly an independent. In my life I've voted everywhere from the Green Party to the Libertarians. I'm just trying to place the logic of this thread into some kind of historical context. Originally Posted by anmar85

you make my point exactly thank you , but why would any american want to look away from this atrocity ,
there is no logic to this no justification no matter the spin

heres the point !
even some independents dont realize how the media has programed you to think . to protect and spin for them when you dont even realize your doing it . to have a mindset that wants to look away when they own the atrocity ,i totally respect independents but be independent and see the atrocity and what has been done here and not see it through democrat apologist eyes.

That's fine that you won't go there, but that's literally the topic of this thread. It's right there in the title. I'm not trying to make this into whataboutism, but if the title of the thread is that the blood of this action is on the voters' hands, then I'm going to have to contest that the aggressive and questionable actions during the course of the war would have to be on voters' hands as well according to that line of logic. If someone disagrees with that, then I'm more than happy to hear them out on why.


To simplify it as to how it relates to the topic again. The topic at hand is that Joe Biden's voter base shares a degree of the responsibility for his actions in Afghanistan. If that's the case, then who shares the brunt of responsibility for questionable military decisions in the past, present, and future? I mean after all, this isn't an echo chamber, so I assume this line of thinking would welcome a broader discussion beyond "Old man bad"






Yeah, you got the wrong dude here. I'm proudly an independent. In my life I've voted everywhere from the Green Party to the Libertarians. I'm just trying to place the logic of this thread into some kind of historical context. Originally Posted by anmar85

I won’t go “there” because the voters didn’t devise this atrocious plan. They didn’t order it. Biden did. So I can’t go there. You’re spinning again. It’s a two part question. It’s still your right to be ignorant in this country. Apparently, 81 million people chose ignorance over reality.

So, are you going to answer the OPs questions? Or are you going to continue to spin like a top?


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Yeah, Joey Bribes has blood on his hands. But you don’t. You can sleep well at night. So does Biden.

The title of the topic is "This blood is on senile Biden's hands as well as the hands of every idiot who voted for him"


I'm retorting that assertion with the fact that thousands of innocent people have been injured or killed due to questionable military decisions by US leadership in that region during the course of the war. Then I am using that assertion to question how far the logic of the topic's title goes. Does that logic extend to previous leadership and the people that voted them into office or not? If that is somehow off topic then please explain how or report me and have moderation explain how. Originally Posted by anmar85

AGAIN - You have been asked nicely to stay on topic several times and refuse to do so. You can feel free to start your own thread examining 20 years of the war. This thread is about current day lives lost because of a botched withdrawal plan by Senile Biden.

No one in this thread is rehashing the past 20 years - this thread is about senile Biden's botched withdrawal plan that has gotten Americans and our allies killed and left American's and Afghan allies behind to likely die at the hands of the Taliban.
That is 100% on senile Biden. It was his plan, his responsibility so yes he has blood on his hands. And those who voted for a senile dottering old fool and ignored:

1. all the signs of his lack of mental acumen and progressing dementia were there
2. when Obama said "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up"
3. when Obama's Defense Secretary Robert Gates said "Biden has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision"

are culpable as well. Not as much as senile Biden because he is the one directly responsible but yes, to a certain extent IMO they also have blood on their hands because they ignored the glaring facts when they put this dementia addled fool in office. Decisions have consequences. Ignoring facts have consequences.

That is completely different than electing a President who has all his mental faculties and who has not shown a history of fucking things up and being on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision - but then makes a bad decision. In that case, the voters could not have foreseen how much of a fuck up he is in advance. In senile Biden's case, it was apparent to anyone with any modicum of intelligence that he was clueless and would make terrible decisions like this

Now please stay on topic