1) The virus is mainly fluid-borne, so a paper/cardboard mail carrier is a negligible transmission risk, haven't seen any studies to suggest otherwise. Teachers unions are also causing unnecessary friction in getting our kids back to the far more effective in-person learning, but that's a separate issue, especially since teachers are by-and-large a heavily-vaccinated group.
2) Obesity is a comorbidity for covid, but your assertion that it's responsible for the majority is just not borne out by the data. The rest of what you typed is mostly hyperbole that doesn't deserve a response; however, other governments around the world incentivize healthy living that is an integral component of their longer lifespans and reduced healthcare costs. Food for thought, excuse the pun.
The message was tweaked with the introduction of new information in realtime, during both the Trump and Biden admins, who both wanted to minimize deaths. Remember, if you will, that both Presidents Trump and Biden have publicly vouched for the vaccines.
3) I'm not really sure why the misinformation on social media is accepted so wholeheartedly by a mostly right-wing audience, but the rejection of our medical institutions' best efforts and embrace of sloppily-"researched" miracle cures certainly appears to be a self-replicating misinformation virus.
And your assumptions about where I get my news from are facile
4) Aside from these all being unrelated to covid, I don't think you really understand the realpolitik of governance. But you did devote a few words to covid in this meandering point, so I'll ask: what is the "metric ton of confusion surrounding [the vaccines]"?
5) All the stubbornly unvaxxed people dying from covid look like the lemmings to me, but maybe that's just my perspective.
Originally Posted by howdy_booty
1. So what? They work in a warehouse and at the post office, where they are working directly with the public. Shouldn't that be a cause of worry for transmission? Let's leave the unions out of this. If we should do everything we can to prevent transmission, shouldn't USPS also be forced to vaccinated everyone? After all, it is something that can be done to *prevent* transmission. Anyways, unions suck.
2. The data shows that obesity and age are the two biggest at-risk groups, barring those with pre-existing conditions. And if you're so quick to accept mandates, why aren't you for banning the sale of unhealthy foods that only contribute to a obesity? Not only does this add to the covid hospitalization/deaths, it actually broadens the discussion to the topic of mandates as a whole regarding the prevention of hospitalizations. If obesity can be prevented by forcing everyone to eat their greens and lean meats, why aren't you for a mandate for that? It's not hyperbole at all. You seem in favor of government telling you what to put into your body, so why not that? Or do you just care about covid? What, do you just not care about preventable deaths by things like high blood pressure, heart problems and strokes, all of which are linked to obesity? . Don't be a pussy and blow this off as undeserving of a response. You're the one for mandates, after all. And yes, other countries do promote healthier lifestyles. Why aren't you critical of the fat acceptance movement which promotes the healthy-at-any-size bullshit?
3.What misinformation on social media are you talking about? Which "cures" are you disregarding? And why? Because someone from a bureau with a three letter acronym told you to? Even though they change their minds, sometimes days within each other? Or when the Unions tell them to?
You want to know why I accuse you of being a CNN stooge? Because your arguments are the exact same ones that morons like Don Lemon uses. At no point, did you answer any of my questions regarding covid with empirical proof. Just "it's the science."
4. It has everything to do with covid, because under the guise of covid, the government is fucking up the way money is made. If the government wants to collect taxes, why aren't they trying to equally avoid spending money on useless shit and actually save money? You do understand the the recent covid relief bill that was passed had nothing to do with actual covid relief, right? It was full of pork. You want to know how a government can collect taxes? By not shutting down the fucking economy and threaten jobs with vaccine mandates. How the fuck are you not able to piece anything together after you specifically bring up a point?
And if the vaccine is so effective and is this miracle, why are countries like Israel, which is one of the highest vaccinated countries in the world, seeing a spike in hospitalizations? If the vaccine is so effective, why are people still wearing masks? If the vaccine is so effective, why do vaccinated people care if someone around them is unvaccinated? Even if the other person is infected, the vaccine protects them, right? Why is the CDC and Fauci on TV always saying something different?
And why aren't they talking about therapeutics so that even if someone does get infected, there are medications to combat the symptoms?
5. Maybe they had religious reasons for not taking the vaccine. Are they lemmings? Maybe the mixed messaging surrounding the vaccine created hesitancy regarding taking it. Maybe their doctors told them that the side effects of the vaccine could be an issue with other conditions they had. Maybe they were tested positive with covid but didn't die of it. Are they lemmings?
You unfairly lump together everyone who disagrees with you as lemmings while you specifically only spout left wing talking points. And you're trying to push a mandate that affects people in many different ways and you have the gall to say "I'm for taking away your freedom because it's good for you."
Finally, for the science.. what science are you talking about? Where is the data? Where are the studies regarding masking and vaccines? You say the reasons the message is being tweaked because of new information? are you saying that the information regarding masking is updated weekly and depending on who interviews with these scientists? Seriously, elaborate.