I would like to chime in and thread lightly…(pun intended)
When I consider a provider for patronage, I look at her showcase, website, adds, P411 site, and her reviews.
One thing I have noticed is that almost every webpage that belongs to a provider usually says something to the effect that prices are non-negotiable. However after doing all the homework there will be variations in pricing, especially under the reviews. When you read a review that lists the price as 160/hr, and P411 lists 200/hr, and eccie add may say 180/hr, and her websites says 250/hr then it’s a bit confusing, especially when we are not supposed to talk about money when you meet.
Then on top of that I see ISO posts were guys throw out “I want X for $100” and some providers who I thought were non-negotiable on price reply in a favorable manor that appears to be less than they are offering on their websites or adds. I am not being critical, this is just an observation.
Exactly when is it ok to negotiate?