"Classifying" men who see TS providers

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I will play with you ANY way, ANY day..............Bring your ass here to a very open minded kinky women, whom embraces you for having the balls to be true to yourself and live out your fantasies/fetishes......Life it to short to not have fun! Originally Posted by Ms. Athena

Having lived through this with a step daughter who became my step son, as well as someone who has seen several TS providers over the years, I have a little different logic where this topic is concerned. If a TS is actively living full time as there intended sex and have made permanent changes to their body to represnt that sex...then that is the sex they are. TS is not a sex, only a label representing a change. If you ask shortkakes what sex she is, the response will probably not be gay male but a woman. Sorry to maybe be speaking for you, and please correct me if I am wrong. As for myself, I don't consider myself even remotely bi but I have seen several beautiful providers who just happened to have a very very large clit ;-). By the way shortkakes...you are absolutely beautiful.

it is not so easy to make a distinction between what is biologically male and female. Nature is not so easy. If TS do take hormones (most of them do) then they are not biologically male.

Plus, even in our regular society there are people who are not so easy to distinct being "male" or female. hormone-wise. There have been cases, where people are biolo9gically female but do look like males or the other way round. or both. Originally Posted by ninasastri

Downright hilarious. Oh so true

There are many nuances in sexuality that have not been part of the discussion.

By defintion (the common accepted ones found in a dictionary), having sexual relations with men and women makes you bisexual. Having sex with the same gender exclusively makes you homosexual, while having sex with the opposite gender makes you heterosexual.

But one thing the question didn't ask about "having sex with a TS", is exactly what kind of sex you are having. Say you want your cock sucked by a TS. Does that make you bisexual? Or should you simply limit the definition to penetrative sex only? It's not so simple once break it down.

As to transgender, that, too, is complicated. And it gets a bit more complicated by the addition of soooo many additional definitions (boi, daddy, etc) that have only loosely agreed-upon definitions. There are people who appear to be one gender but feel they should be the other. And now, with pharmaceuticals and plastic surgery, you have people who transition partially to the other gender, but stop before they go all the way - and they are happy to be inbetween.

Makes for an interesting dinner discussion anyways...

Makes for an interesting dinner discussion anyways... Originally Posted by Krunkman

Especially when relishing up a Hot Dog!

WTF! It's nice to see you posting in these parts!!!

Interesting topic, isn't it?

Hugs,
Elisabeth

WRONG sorry! The hormones I take actually "bond" to my DNA, therefore any blood test/dna test I am given, it comes back as "female" fyi Originally Posted by TShortKakes

I am delighted that you joined in!

At least one provider has admitted she would hesitate to see a hobbyist who had been with a TS provider.

It is conceivable that if a man who generally sees female providers, decides to see and review a TS provider, his choices may be limited from that time forward. And further backlash may be that other hobbyists might shun providers who later see this same man.

Is that right or fair? Indications are that 10% of those answering the poll might think so - and that's in "Another Realm", which I suspect is a bit more tolerant of sexual choices.

After elsewhere reading some unsolicited opinions on this matter, I was curious to the degree that others percieved men who see TS providers, hence the poll. I must admit a few years ago, I would have easily chosen #1 as my answer. But I was younger and felt that most everything should fit neatly into pre-determined categories.

A special thanks to TShortKakes for her first hand insights, and I do hope other TS providers will join in the discussion.

"hesitate to see a hobbyist who had been with a TS provider" I just dont get that, but now I understand why I only have 3 reviews! lol. Since joining the site I have had nothing but fun!! And NO lack of response either! I havent even had to place an ad, I've been so busy!

WRONG sorry! The hormones I take actually "bond" to my DNA, therefore any blood test/dna test I am given, it comes back as "female" fyi Originally Posted by TShortKakes

Quit taking the hormones and see what happens. Let me know when the chromosomes change over, then maybe you've got something.

WTF! It's nice to see you posting in these parts!!!

Interesting topic, isn't it?

Hugs,
Elisabeth Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

I'll say!

I'll never be able to eat beenie weenies again.

My take is that the majority of us like to drive an automatic transimission , it appears some though like to drive with a stick tranny!

Whatever floats your boat is my motto!

Quit taking the hormones and see what happens. Let me know when the chromosomes change over, then maybe you've got something. Originally Posted by cimarron

Such pent up anger and hostility... sounds like you need my services, lol

everyone's gay, some are just better at hiding it than others #Fact Originally Posted by tsmistressmia

There sure are some strong opinions about this topic.

In my opinion...
If you are a MAN and are getting rammed in the asshole by a man with a dick up your ass, you are GAY.
...you just happen to like women too.
"Straight" men want women...not men with dicks and boobies.

Having said that...
I have known both Pre and post op transgendered people.
and love and respect them.
I even give make-overs to crossdressers and like to play dress up...
but that is not the question you are asking.

If you want a dick up your ass ...you are gay...deal with it...and GAY IS OKAY! Originally Posted by *GoddessDallas*

The poll asks about "men seeing T/S providers"

Why do you assume that someone who sees a T/S is being "rammed in the asshole?"

That's fucking sexy!

I am not gay. I am bi-curious, and seeing (ie not "dating" as was eluded to earlier) a TS girl helps me peek at what I am curious about without "going all the way" ... if that makes sense. In another way, I have always wanted to participate in a MMF encounter ... guys playing with her, but during the playtime we just let things happen and the two guys are playing, with each other and her, and maybe she is even encouraging the MM play ... I am at the proverbial line, kinda sticking my toes over it, but not fully committed ... I can always revert back to her sweetness. I have, and will continue to play with TS girls ... the experiences are very exciting and intense ... but I am not "gay", just curious ... now I do know that some Providers in the DFW area will not play with a guy that has seen a TS girl, and I also know that many won't see a guy that tends to have a wild side (ie he is in Another Realm as much as he is anywhere else) ... and I respect them and their decisions.

Open minds, vivid imaginations, and very little inhibitions (and playing safe) is what makes exploring our sexuality so fantastic, and exciting. While I enjoy TS girls, I am not gay ... and nothing turns me on more than a sexy women, period! Originally Posted by hookem69horns