Has Your ATF made you feel special lately?

There really is no sense in getting emotionally involved with a professional. It can only end badly. Very badly. Because while you are investing time, money and emotion in her, she is spending all her time trying to develop business. This divergent efforts can only end badly. While the fucker might care for her, the fuckee could care less. Oh, maybe that makes the hobbyist the one really getting fucked? ijs Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Not always Charles.... LOL

Freebies aren't my thing. He understands and respects that this is a business.
He is handsome, sweet, a great fuck and he spoils me. Too bad he's married. Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

Damn....his wife is lucky Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

Bwahaha true. Damn. Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

Stop it!! I'm blushing!!

Stop it!! I'm blushing!! Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

Bwahaha call me

There is risk to allowing yourself to have any emotional connection--in or out of this corner of the world. There is also great potential reward. I've been hurt at times--sometimes badly--but some of my "hobby wives" have also given me some tremendous reasons to smile.

There is nothing wrong with playing it emotionally safe, but there is nothing wrong with rolling the dice either, though I agree with you it should be with eyes open from the beginning. Originally Posted by Old-T

There really is no sense in getting emotionally involved with a professional. It can only end badly. Very badly. Because while you are investing time, money and emotion in her, she is spending all her time trying to develop business. This divergent efforts can only end badly. While the fucker might care for her, the fuckee could care less. Oh, maybe that makes the hobbyist the one really getting fucked? ijs Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

I think you are way over generalizing here. Yes, it can end badly--every emotional venture can and this kind is no different. But especially for those who understand Friendship is not the same as Falling In Love With, many relationships can end very well--or need not end at all.

Your mindset has already convinced you (1) it will end badly, and (2) "she" is fickle, insincere, and looking to put a knife in your back at the first opportunity. A very self fulfilling mindset because you will then interpret every word and action in that light.

Are there insincere people in this corner of the world? Of course, of both genders. Lots of guys sweet talk a lady into OTC time and promises, with zero sincerity. It works both ways. But to claim all men or women here are that way is both wrong and also a very miserable, biased way to see the world.

I have multiple friendships that started as professional escort relationships that have lasted 10+ years, one going on 20. They have lasted as friends long after the ladies retired, married, etc. You come across as a rather bitter guy on this topic.

"this topic"? lol

Charles is not a very positive person regardless of the topic

Ugh the thing is just because someone is your ATF doesn't mean you're their ATF.

@ OT & EA If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

I guess the best gift ive been given by a provider has been their friendship and trust to a certain extent.
we share stories and personal matters with each other and they make you feel like they give a shit and to me thats better than any monetary gift or sexual favor a man could recieve but that only comes after knowing each other.
I have recieved an extra hour or two over the years and even had a couple ask me to spend the night for free - rather than me drive back to my hotel late at night.
I guess you can call that respect and a form of friendship which i try to extend to every lady i see and in return hope i get it back...but other than that i dont expect anything nor do i seek to ever get anything free.
all i need is their companionship and a fun time together and the knowledge that we both understand we are hobbyist and provider but can also be friends.

I guess the best gift ive been given by a provider has been their friendship and trust to a certain extent.
we share stories and personal matters with each other and they make you feel like they give a shit and to me thats better than any monetary gift or sexual favor a man could recieve but that only comes after knowing each other.
I have recieved an extra hour or two over the years and even had a couple ask me to spend the night for free - rather than me drive back to my hotel late at night.
I guess you can call that respect and a form of friendship which i try to extend to every lady i see and in return hope i get it back...but other than that i dont expect anything nor do i seek to ever get anything free.
all i need is their companionship and a fun time together and the knowledge that we both understand we are hobbyist and provider but can also be friends. Originally Posted by wildwooly1

That's good stuff! I agree that the best gift possible is friendship, companionship, and overall relationship. One hour Cum & Go's can be fun but are really pretty shallow. A solid relationship is where all the joy comes from. Once you get past the stage name, get to know the real person, meet her family, and do other things OTC, it can really be amazing!

Some marriages work out well, some don't.

Some friendships last, some don't.

Some business relationships work, others don't.

ATF relationships are the same. Originally Posted by Old-T

Although this is all true. By the same token, Marriages are designed to work out. Friendships are designed to to be lasting. buisness relationships are designed to be fulfilling. ATF relationships with Escorts are not designed nor implied to be of the same caliber as the above.

Although this is all true. By the same token, Marriages are designed to work out. Friendships are designed to to be lasting. buisness relationships are designed to be fulfilling. ATF relationships with Escorts are not designed nor implied to be of the same caliber as the above. Originally Posted by acp5762

Rlationships with escorts are, I would argue, are business relationships.

And my ATFs are friends.

I do not see "escort", "business relationship", and "friend" as mutually exclusive--though not all escorts I've seen are friends.

@ OT & EA If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

....it's a tree frog????

Rlationships with escorts are, I would argue, are business relationships.

And my ATFs are friends.

I do not see "escort", "business relationship", and "friend" as mutually exclusive--though not all escorts I've seen are friends. Originally Posted by Old-T

Well you're meeting escorts and somehow there is a connection and behold friendship results, like no other. I think it's safe to assume, for most on here seeking escorts is merely a phase. For you and others like yourself it's evolved into a lifestyle, that can't be truly understood unless you're in it. But my main point from my last post was, the escort client relationship isn't really designed to venture out any further than what was intially intended. If it does, there will be some unique challenges to face.

Well you're meeting escorts and somehow there is a connection and behold friendship results, like no other. I think it's safe to assume, for most on here seeking escorts is merely a phase. For you and others like yourself it's evolved into a lifestyle, that can't be truly understood unless you're in it. But my main point from my last post was, the escort client relationship isn't really designed to venture out any further than what was intially intended. If it does, there will be some unique challenges to face. Originally Posted by acp5762

Sir, I completely agree with every word of your post.

That's good stuff! I agree that the best gift possible is friendship, companionship, and overall relationship. One hour Cum & Go's can be fun but are really pretty shallow. A solid relationship is where all the joy comes from. Once you get past the stage name, get to know the real person, meet her family, and do other things OTC, it can really be amazing! Originally Posted by tonytiger4u

I agree totally but I like paddling my canoe in "shallow" water every now and then! LOL