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who else could have lost track of the weapons they sold to the Mexicans? Originally Posted by CJ7
I'm sure that information is in the documents. And I'm sure the blame goes down the line at least as far as it goes up. Had they addressed this from the start, they could have limited the damage to the down the line parties. Since they have decided to cover up the necessary information, blame now goes all the way to the top.

Stupid, incompetent handling of the whole matter. This could have been a non-issue. They have made it into a huge issue. There is incompetence enough here to go all the way.

So let's see the documents. The documents could have been presented to the committee in executive session, as beautiful Olivia said. Whether they can be trusted with the information is irrelevant. They are our representatives, and have a right to know, even if the public does not. If someone from the committee leaks information, there are processes to deal with it. The fact is, they can't hide what they're doing from the people's representatives. It's OUR country, not theirs!
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Provided you ignore the double standard inherent in it. Originally Posted by Doove
Doofie, whenever I go out, doubles are standard. Coming with me, Olivia? I'd love to hash this issue out with you over wine, candlelight, etc.?

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  • CJ7
  • 06-22-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm sure that information is in the documents. And I'm sure the blame goes down the line at least as far as it goes up. Had they addressed this from the start, they could have limited the damage to the down the line parties. Since they have decided to cover up the necessary information, blame now goes all the way to the top.

Stupid, incompetent handling of the whole matter. This could have been a non-issue. They have made it into a huge issue. There is incompetence enough here to go all the way.

So let's see the documents. The documents could have been presented to the committee in executive session, as beautiful Olivia said. Whether they can be trusted with the information is irrelevant. They are our representatives, and have a right to know, even if the public does not. If someone from the committee leaks information, there are processes to deal with it. The fact is, they can't hide what they're doing from the people's representatives. It's OUR country, not theirs! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

be kinda hard to protect the agents from the mexican cartel if they're all named in the documentation wouldnt it? ... you keep saying lets see the documents .. 7600 pages of documents were produced and given to congress, have you seen any of that?

just sayin'


oh yeah, you and Olivia have a nice evening ... after you get her drawers down you can tell her how much you really dont trust congress
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Fine. You don't think anyone should know what's going on. I disagree. I think the government works for us. We are supposed to be the boss. No, I don't trust Congress, but they have the right to know what's going on.

But you just be happy. Let the government do what they want. Then when they shove tyranny up your ass, just say "Thank you."
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  • 06-22-2012, 04:55 PM
you support congress doing what they want at any expense ... last time I checked, congress was government


be happy.

your hypocrisy proceeds you
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Keep making up statements for me. I understand. If it makes your pathetic little life more meaningful, go ahead.
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  • 06-22-2012, 05:29 PM
Keep making up statements for me. I understand. If it makes your pathetic little life more meaningful, go ahead. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

you dont like congress, you dont trust congress, you dont want congress spending taxpayer dollars, but you approve of congress doing all of the above as long as its against Holder ... you are against bigger government but you want a bigger government to investigate a political party youre not fond of .... your own words over the course of time on this very board


thats not making up jack shit, thats what is commonly knows as a hyocrite
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You just don't get it, do you? It's the government's job to prosecute criminals. Holder has already been caught in lies before the committee. It's imperative to get the documents out to find out what is truly going on. That is a legitimate expenditure in any government. It would cost a lot less if the administration would quit covering it up.

You're a fucking idiot. And see a chiropractor. All that spinning and twisting can't be good for your back.
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  • 06-22-2012, 05:44 PM
if there was any coverup dont you think Holder et al would have let it be known the one gun came from "his" sting operation?
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Ok. Anybody. Does that question make any sense?

I think he's asking . . . hell, I have no idea what he's asking.

Add an English class to that list.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-22-2012, 06:00 PM
Ok. Anybody. Does that question make any sense?

I think he's asking . . . hell, I have no idea what he's asking.

Add an English class to that list. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy



ok ...


if holder et al was hiding anything why did he/they let everyone know the one gun came from "his" sting operation?
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I don't think he let us know. I think it got out before he could stop it. That's why we need the documents.

Remember, he said he never knew about it until he read it in the paper. The documents will show that was a lie, too.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-22-2012, 06:08 PM
I don't think he let us know. I think it got out before he could stop it. That's why we need the documents.

Remember, he said he never knew about it until he read it in the paper. The documents will show that was a lie, too. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I bet one damn thing, after all the shit the simpletons kicked on the sidewalk, if any other like kind situation comes up again anytime in the future, not one swinging dick on main street will EVER know about it, regardless who or what is fucking associated with it
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And you're ok with that. I'm not.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-22-2012, 06:18 PM
And you're ok with that. I'm not. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I didnt say I was ok with that ... pay attention