Integrity, Hero Worship, When the "Oh He Could Never" types cross over the line.

Read the very end of the post again gentlemen.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz ! Wake me up if he ever gets to the point ! Originally Posted by rockerrick

Let me retell the story to the tune of "The Beverly Hillbillies" add a bit of excitement.

Let me tell ya little story bout a man named PEM...
Liked to fuck the new girls, & do it on a whim.
Then one day he was knocking off a piece,
When Whispers called him up and said "you better just cease"

Fake ID's,
Wave those Fees...
Weak in the Knees..

Well the next thing you know ole PEM is kinda gimp,
Hes the second cousin to a dollar grabbin' pimp,
Now hes got caught so whats he gonna do?
Wind up on BP for those $50 Screws...

Cover it up...
Times up...
Hey bitch, whatsup?

Now the boy is outted and he got no place to run,
No more free pussy, ain't gonna be no fun,
His Pimp fakes like he don't know the boy was bad,
Just a wayward hobbiest, with a Mata Leon Pad...

Make you a star...
Screw you from afar...
Leave your door ajar...

Now you've heard the story, some say it might be true,
Gettin free pussy, a nolo contendre screw,
Where you might ask can I get a just like gig?
By fucking $40 Ho's who look just like a pig...

Flour power..
By the Quarter hour...
Damn that thing smells sour...

damn! i was gonna shave my balls tonight too.......but, NOOOOOO. i had to see "who shot JR" Originally Posted by knotty man

btw, i saw where this was headed from the details. that's why I mentioned on here I hope this thing would be handled professionally out of respect for the aforementioned parties. I've always been a perspective shit, but it doesn't mean you always know the whole story.





i'm sure there is enough drama and details to fill a novel, and I'm sure this thread will be full of mudslinging and popcorn, but out of respect to both Ranchhand and Whispers, I hope this is handled in house. Ranch has always been good to me and Whispers, while I don't always agree with him, has always been a bros before hos type, which I respect.

I think the real story, away from all the John LeCarre aspects, is how a fucking pimp is once again infiltrating things. These guys are like the ultimate cockroaches (shoutout to Marco).

I wish these fuckers would quit taking advantage of women and pussy-weak hobbyists.

Let me retell the story to the tune of "The Beverly Hillbillies" add a bit of excitement.

Let me tell ya little story bout a man named PEM...
Liked to fuck the new girls, & do it on a whim.
Then one day he was knocking off a piece,
When Whispers called him up and said "you better just cease"

Fake ID's,
Wave those Fees...
Weak in the Knees..

Well the next thing you know ole PEM is kinda gimp,
Hes the second cousin to a dollar grabbin' pimp,
Now hes got caught so whats he gonna do?
Wind up on BP for those $50 Screws...

Cover it up...
Times up...
Hey bitch, whatsup?

Now the boy is outted and he got no place to run,
No more free pussy, ain't gonna be no fun,
His Pimp fakes like he don't know the boy was bad,
Just a wayward hobbiest, with a Mata Leon Pad...

Make you a star...
Screw you from afar...
Leave your door ajar...

Now you've heard the story, some say it might be true,
Gettin free pussy, a nolo contendre screw,
Where you might ask can I get a just like gig?
By fucking $40 Ho's who look just like a pig...

Flour power..
By the Quarter hour...
Damn that thing smells sour...
Originally Posted by Toyz

OK.... In the midst of all the shit... THAT is damn good.....

OK.... In the midst of all the shit... THAT is damn good..... Originally Posted by Whispers

YES!!! THX Toyz for saving the evening show

Yeah ! Toyz my friend you are back !

If Whispers has indeed submitted supporting evidence that an ECCIE moderator has used his position with the site to blackmail providers I would expect a statement from the owners as soon as possible.

If Whispers has indeed submitted supporting evidence that an ECCIE moderator has used his position with the site to blackmail providers I would expect a statement from the owners as soon as possible. Originally Posted by Qziz

I did NOT say that he has used his position as a Moderator to blackmail anyone.

I want to make sure that what I've said is not taken in other directions although I am sure there is much that I do not know. Others are free to make their own comments but please quote me accurately if doing so.

I DID say was that he is a Moderator. I did say that the lady said received and email from him with her personal pictures and was intimidated by them.

ANY member could do most of what I've suggested he has done without the need to be a Mod.

I find it additionally disturbing that in this case it WAS a Mod. There is certainly a considerable amount of information that a Mod is privy to that you would naturally be concerned with him having access to.

He supposedly did explain to the lady I refer to that he WAS a Mod and could better look after her and assist her based on the position.

I think given what you have described:

- attempting to 'groom' a new provider as his 'client'
- said new provider then rebels and creates her own account
- provider then receives 'innocently' pictures from her private/non-hobby life

Intimidation is the most gentle way to put it.

Also, to put it mildly, account sharing is a fairly serious violation... and if impersonating a provider for purposes of $$$ isn't a fairly serious violation I'd say it probably should be...

And yes... 'handlers' do that all the time. But they aren't board mods.

I think given what you have described:

- attempting to 'groom' a new provider as his 'client'
- said new provider then rebels and creates her own account
- provider then receives 'innocently' pictures from her private/non-hobby life

Intimidation is the most gentle way to put it.

Also, to put it mildly, account sharing is a fairly serious violation... and if impersonating a provider for purposes of $$$ isn't a fairly serious violation I'd say it probably should be...

And yes... 'handlers' do that all the time. But they aren't board mods. Originally Posted by Qziz

I agree with all you have said. I just did not think it accurate to say that he USED his status as a MOD to do it. As I read what you said again I feel it a fair assessment.

In regards to whether or not he impersonated a Provider... Well that will take a MOD checking IPs to verify I would think..... They do not always share that stuff with us....

Well, I thought I would be shocked. I guess I have lost my ability to marvel. I don't know the person/people involved in the story, but it did make my stomach turn.

Whispy, when did they make Marco an ECCIE moderator? If not Marco then hmmm, let me think(s)..

Someone with credibility (excessive review poster maybe).. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of taking photos and sharing.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of outing other members.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of covering things up.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Well Whispy, I am lost.. this is a big (City) and I am (Still Looking) for clues and gathering additional information.

Marco he didn't say who the pimp and schill are that might be working with Ranchhand , but rest assured , we know that it is likely YOU !

When did they make Marco an ECCIE moderator? If not Marco then hmmm, let me think(s)..

Reading must not be one of your many talents. The ECCIE Moderator that was the subject of my Post Is Ranchhand.

Someone with credibility (excessive review poster maybe).. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of taking photos and sharing.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of outing other members.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

Someone with a history of covering things up.. hmmm, let me think(s) some more...

I am lost..

Being able to look inwards and recognize that in yourself is a good thing. Possibly a break through you should share with your therapist.

this is a big (City) and I am (Still Looking) for clues and gathering additional information. Originally Posted by kSoze

Over the last couple of days I received a barrage of texts, PMs and emails from members taking guesses as to who I was talking about. City Jazz definitely made the top of the list which SHOULD probably concern him. After all, WHO would want to be perceived in the manner I described? But these issues does not involve either City Jazz of Still Looking.

One phrase that the "Pimp/Manager/Agency" used in commenting on how let down he was by Ranchhand's actions over the last few months was "that he lacked finesse".

On the surface this particular "Pimp/Manager/Agency" seems be a lot smarter than Marco has portrayed himself to be. Especially in a situation like this. There was message sent my way that was probably meant to be intimidating but he quickly came to realize that he simply placed too much trust in his Middle Management without enough supervision and decided that Ranchhand represented too much collateral damage and he distanced himself from him quite rapidly.

Marco seems to love the drama and the confrontation and tries to bully people to accomplish what he wants. This "Pimp/Manager/Agency" quickly adapts to a situation and is well written and capable of mirroring the person he is communicating with and earning their respect.

No where in any of these tales has there been talk of illicit substances where he or his girls are concerned the way Marco has been linked to. The only thing he really seems guilty of is trying to shortcut the verification process and managing the girls through individual accounts.

I think there is a strong base of clients that would use Agency Girls managed through an Agency type approach. Trying to make it APPEAR that girls are independent when they are actually managed is not a good business model as it breaks down in the end as the girls lack the finesse to project the same story.

No. This guy COULD be much better than Marco if he comes to town and gives the system a chance to work as it is designed to work. Present the girls through an Agency with a scheduler/booker and not be pretending to be each individual girl.

Marco seems to try to manage the image of each individual girl.

The best Agencies I've dealt with managed the image of their Agency. They built THEIR reputation and maintained a constantly changing menu to select from. I became confident in the Agency and they valued me as a client and if the Manager told me I should try a girl and she matched my particular physical preferences I didn't ask much more.

No, you are wrong again. Marco totally lacks the finesse this guy does. If this WAS Marco he would be all over these threads with explanations and accusations trying to spin it all. And City Jazz and Still Looking are much to into their own images and fan base to be directly involved in my opinion. They might get offered a free ride or a discount here and there for the review. Heck. That is good business even. But letting either run his business?

In my opinion this guy is spending his time contacting other members with a style and finesse he knows he needs and looking to replace Ranchhand as quickly as possible. Considering the gig has some perks I have no doubt he will find a guy.

This thread is NOT about "Pimp/Manager/Agency". I can lay nothing at the feet of this guy other than he cut a deal with Ranchhand to manage the "20-30 girls" he supposedly turned over to him since late last summer. I know there are a lot here that have a problem with a guy taking a girls money but on the surface I haven't heard a girl complain that he MADE them do anything.