Yet another embarrassment from McCain. Yeah he my Senator and well past his prime. Originally Posted by Chica ChaserIt was a PR move by Rand Paul.
It was a PR move by Rand Paul.Bullshit comparisons trying to deflect blame from Obama/Holder who were trying to play cute. I think this summarizes things nicely:
Next he will be making an accusation that Obama was in the DR with Mendez and do another filibuster to make them promise not to screw underage girls.
No different than asking the question, "Are you still beating your wife"
The Admin made the mistake of ignoring the silly fucking question. Give Rand credit, he made a mountain out of a sink hole! Originally Posted by WTF
Bullshit comparisons trying to deflect blame from Obama/Holder who were trying to play cute. I think this summarizes things nicely:If you read the letter, it does nothing to address the actual question at hand. Can the President kill Americans on our own soil with drones. The answer is yes, if he thinks they are engaged in combat. Combat was not defined. So Rand Paul engaged in political grandstanding for the paranoid/ignorant among us. I'll be nice and leave it up to each individual to define ignorant. There is no doubt who the paranoid are roaming this forum.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...letter/273749/ Originally Posted by ExNYer
I stayed up with those guys till the filibuster ended. I was ready to stay up all night to support what they were doing. I've left messages with both Rand and Ted. Thank God someone actually said, " hmmm our president is trying to have the ability to kill American's on American soil?" I don't give even one shit what you liberal idiots have to say on this issue that isn't in support of the constitution. Originally Posted by LovingKayla
When I start to slip and think maybe democrats aren't so bad, I just come to the sand box to remind me how completely anti American you all actually are. You think you're just giving people on the right a bunch of shit, but what you're really doing is proving you are all traitors to our country. Fuck you liberal jack asses. I have no mercy in my heart for any of you. If you were on fire, I might piss on you.... but I'd charge extra. Originally Posted by LovingKayla
Why on earth wouldn't you agree with his substantive position? You think the U.S. has a right to kill it's own citizens on it's own soil without due process??!!!! And if so, why, for God's sake??!!!! Originally Posted by TexTushHog
Rand Paul should now filibuster the Obama administration to assure us that we will not drone Martians, should they land in New Mexico! Originally Posted by WTFRumor has it that Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee (Dim-TX) is planning just such a filibuster: she wants to ensure there is no collateral damage to that flag Armstrong left on Mars in 1969.
If you read the letter, it does nothing to address the actual question at hand. Can the President kill Americans on our own soil with drones. The answer is yes, if he thinks they are engaged in combat. Combat was not defined. So Rand Paul engaged in political grandstanding for the paranoid/ignorant among us. I'll be nice and leave it up to each individual to define ignorant. There is no doubt who the paranoid are roaming this forum. Originally Posted by WTFWhat a cop out. Combat doesn't need to be defined. It is understood to mean that - at the very minimum - the individual is engaged in violence, RIGHT NOW, or will be very soon.
What a cop out. Combat doesn't need to be defined. It is understood to mean that - at the very minimum - the individual is engaged in violence, RIGHT NOW, or will be very soon.or will be very soon.
Originally Posted by ExNYer
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That is no different than cops shooting an armed man that is am imminent threat to them or someone else.
If there was an armed revolution occuring in the country, no one would dispute the Presidents power to suppress it with the military. That is no different than the Civil War.
But the original issue wasn't whether an American citizen was involved in "combat", it was whether the American citizen was a "terrorist".
"Terrorist" has a much more flexible definition than "combat".
Originally Posted by ExNYer
That means they think they can drone citizen engaged in combat. Why didn't Rand press them on the meaning of 'combat'. Originally Posted by WTFAfter 12 hours he probably had to piss.
After 12 hours he probably had to piss.He brought attention to something that was not happening or going to happen but could happen (in theory) .
He brought attention to the matter, which was his goal. Even CNN/MSNBC had to cover the story so lots of people saw something that never would have heard about it otherwise. Mission accomplished. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser