VLB get over yourself

Here, these are on topic.... (totally not about VLB)

Q: Why doesn't Barbie get pregnant?
A: Because Ken comes in a box.

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A man walks into the toy store to get a Barbie doll for his daughter. So he asks the assistant, as you would, "How much is Barbie?"

"Well," she says, "we have Barbie Goes to the Gym for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Ball for $19.95, Barbie Goes Shopping for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Beach for $19.95, Barbie Goes Nightclubbing for $19.95, and Divorced Barbie for $265.00."

"Hey, hang on," the guy asks, "why is Divorced Barbie $265.00 when all the others are only $19.95?"

"Yeah, well, it's like this ... Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, Ken's boat, Ken's furniture ..."

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Notice VLB hasn't replied...
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" Originally Posted by dbeartx

Oh, I think she has responded.

And it certainly is loud and clear in my head what her response is.

Lol, more than half of the people with a college degree got it while partying their ass off using mommy and daddy's money, myself included in that 7, but throw in some getting high playing James Bond and Madden on the Playstation, frolicking about in the frat house chasing tail around greek row. Hard-work and dedication had nothing to do with it. Haha, I skirted out with a 3.8 rarely opening up a book except for around exams.

There are exceptions, some people actually bust their ass, but everyone ends up with the same piece of paper and $160,000 bill.

Back to the Topic....
This thread probably should not have been started.... I agree that a pudding match would have probably been a better solution to resolving the issues.

Notice VLB hasn't replied, and I hope that she doesn't because that would be the classiest thing to do. By replying to this thread, anyone replying to it, you/we are perpetuating the issue. Instead of this sinking to the bottom and disappearing, it keeps rising to the first post listed.

Just my two cents....
Originally Posted by dbeartx

Sorry if this comes off argumentative but seeing how you posted it, you must have wanted it to be read and replied to...

The line in my reply that you quoted was to get across that no one should bash someone for being proud of their education and obviously it was a goal of hers that she accomplished. She probably worked really hard and she deserves to be proud. She doesn't deserve to be bashed by a jealous provider or have someone say that "Hey college was easy for me, so I'm sure every one had the same experience with a few exceptions..."

Yuppers some get by in life living off of parents money and acting as if they have no responsibilities other then to serve their own fun seeking needs. But what you were referring to about the frat parties and drugs is a representation of one type of college student...I work hard in school, no drugs, no sorority, no parties so hearing someone say that a college degree is just a simple expensive piece of paper that anyone can get is annoying. Colleges are full of single parents that have to work full time and juggle being a parent and a student. There is actually a lot of them not just a few. And yes the slackers and the hard workers may all end up with the same expensive piece of paper but some will come out with better character and a appreciation for the chance to learn in an establishment of higher education. Not all of us thought that we would ever get the chance to get to college because we grew up in low income households.

Hell I don't even think a college degree is necessary for anyone, but i do think people should always want to expand their knowledge and understanding of why things are the way they are. Before college, after college, in college...and that requires hard work, and if it comes easy to you then great!! Maybe you were meant to do something harder...

Just my 2 cents Don't let your experience of something lead to think everyone has the same experience. A lot of people work really hard and even if it was easy for you, please understand that for those of us busting our butts trying to get it all done it's not fair to generalize it with one stereotype and you can easily come off as myopic, which i know wasn't your intention. I sincerely hope the best for all of the great providers and clients in the hobby, and i hope they are proud every time they accomplish another one of their goals!!

p.s. VIP is my friend, and even if she wasn't i would be upset with the original post because I really think it's disgusting that people feel they should bash others and then.... later on brag about all the messages they get giving kudos for the bashing. Congratulations Ginger, you stated what was on your mind on an internet forum...you're a freakin' hero let me tell ya!

I had the pleasure of meeting VLB and she is one of the nicest provider I had seen. So goes out of her wayof accommodating her clients. As far as the gift bags she gives to clients is a nice touch IMO, sure most hobbyists have SO's but how hard is it to polity decline it. I got mine and believe it or not I still have the bag. So VLB do what's good for you and don't worry about what anyone has to say about you

Originally Posted by dbeartx
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Notice VLB hasn't replied...

Well let's just leave at this... but I think she has had her hands full.

Sometimes who speaks for you says far more than anything you can say for yourself. Based on that, I don't think VLB has anything to worry about. Anyone here could be described in a negative light if someone wants to take the time to do so. It is not difficult to take positive actions and spin them so that they appear bad. It is just sad to see it happen unnecessarily.


As for the college degrees I agree with CG4U. I like seeing a person invest in themselves so that they have options in the future. That should be honored and respected. There is nothing sadder than seeing a provider continuing in this business because they have no choice and they hate what they do. I do not believe there is anything wrong with being a provider, I just want it to be by choice not lack of choice.

]Collegegirl.... I totally agree with your post, and never once said anything to the contrary. .. I prefaced mine with this if for humorous purposes only and was off topic... It really had zero to do with you, VLB or anyone else in here... Hence the bold, in a different color preface.... I also noted in bold there are exceptions, and yes those are exceptions and not the majority...

My remarks on notice she hasn't responded yet, were a kudos to her for not responding she has zero reason nor need to defend herself...


I will once again in bold type say.... This thread probably should have not been started. I will also be a little clearer in saying that I don't think she needs to defend herself because her reputation speaks for itself... I'm not exactly sure how I can simplify any of that any further... Yes that last sentence was sarcastic...

So please get off my back, because I completely agree with what you said...

Oh and ps. My experience comes from both personal experience and from being a statistics analyst with the department of education and then serving as a corporate liaison with the TN department of education... And second personal experience as I complete my masters and start a second degree, because I feel like I didn't spend enough money the second time. So please don't let your not knowing me lead you to think I have no experience...

I feel like people skim, catch a few words and pass judgement... Slow down read the whole post, stop, let it soak in and then post. In my post, I even highlighted the important points that should have made it clear that I was not passing judgement on anyone and that it had nothing to do with anyone other than that tiny little sliver of the quote. So rather than immediately getting offended, stop drop and roll, because your blinders are on fire and the smoke is clouding your judgement and perception.

Man, this is better than Netflix. Can someone refill my soda?

Screw the soda... How about a glass or five of single barrel and a good cigar... I don't smoke cigars, but it just feels right...

To Dbeartx,

I apologize I honestly tried to write in a manner where it wouldn't be taken as me being on your back.

I never said you had no experience, not a single time. (slow down and read the post)

I stated that i knew the way it came off probably wasn't your intention and gave you the benefit of the doubt without knowing you

"more than half of the people with a college degree got it while partying their ass off using mommy and daddy's money, myself included in that 7, but throw in some getting high playing James Bond and Madden on the Playstation, frolicking about in the frat house chasing tail around greek row. Hard-work and dedication had nothing to do with it. Haha, I skirted out with a 3.8 rarely opening up a book except for around exams. " -- was what you said which is why i said what i did about your personal experience in college. The "myself included" i took as to mean that you were citing personal experience.

I have no doubt you have been successful and have embarked on many fulfilling endeavors. You couldn't have enjoyed participating in the hobby if you hadn't been a bit successful. I was replying to your opinion: "Hard-work and dedication had nothing to do with it." and "There are exceptions, some people actually bust their ass, but everyone ends up with the same piece of paper and $160,000" bill.

I did not want to come off negatively and did not assume you to be speaking maliciously. I apologize if i did, but yes it was annoying to hear someone scoff at my saying that "...Her college degree just speaks to her ability to work hard and accomplish goals for herself, not for anyone else...." I assumed the humorous intention disclaimer at the beginning of your thread was for the jokes, because that was the humorous part of the thread. Saying something that isn't funny is for humorous intentions is easy to mis-read... please understand there is no inflection or tone when it comes to an internet post. When you quote the line that you did then follow it up with that particular paragraph. It's easy to mis-read. I took it as you were implying that when I mentioned her college degree being a testament to her hard work and ability to accomplish goals I was wrong because most people don't have to work hard to get a degree. I misunderstood.

I had no desire to offend you or say anything other than a lot of people work hard to accomplish things, that maybe others didn't have to work for, and they should feel proud. I never skim and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt: "...fair to generalize it with one stereotype and you can easily come off as myopic, which i know wasn't your intention." and "I sincerely hope the best for all of the great providers and clients in the hobby, and i hope they are proud every time they accomplish another one of their goals!! "

Anyhoo, I do apologize. I don't like generalizations and I tend to respond strongly towards them. It's often hard to see why people read something you wrote and get upset with it, because in your head it seems clear, but without face to face affectations it's hard to decipher meaning...even if it's in bold print Take care and be safe!

Damn! Let me grab some popcorn! Originally Posted by Daracus

+1!

collegegirlforyou,
Touche' to everything that you said.... I 100% agree that inflection is non-existent on here and that [bold] is a poor attempt at a replacement for inflection.

My last post was a little dickish and condescending, I too apologize. I see how it could have come across that way, but I wasn't scoffing at you and did not mean to belittle or downplay anyone's hard-work and dedication. It takes balls to make the decision to go to school and fortitude to actually stick to it. I respect that.

If i catch you at a social hopefully you'll oblige a humble offer buy you a drink of apology

I think this darn change in time has every one cranky this week; I know I am....

hmmm... if only there were a nice relaxing, fun happy hour coming up soon to lighten the mood...