TAXPAYER FUNDED PLANNED PARENTHOOD SUPPORTS "HONOR KILLINGS" OF BABIES..........

tough explanation eh sport?

just keep telling yourself you are NOT a blithering idiot.

We know who the blithering idiot is, CBJ7. Hint: It's not me.

We know who the blithering idiot is, CBJ7. Hint: It's not me. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

so Whinestein, tell everyone how the fetus made it out of the mothers womb ... we're all on pins and needles

The baby was alive, outside the womb. Then they wanted to kill it. Explain how that is an abortion, please. We'd all enjoy being enlightened by your wisdom.




moron

The baby was alive, outside the womb. Then they wanted to kill it. Explain how that is an abortion, please. We'd all enjoy being enlightened by your wisdom.




moron Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

quit dodging the explanation and remind everyone exactly how the baby made its way outside the womb


better yet, befitting your intelligence, just post a cartoon, call me an Obamatron, and ignore the thread.

So it's not an abortion until the baby dies. Regardless of whether it is outside the womb or not.

Okay, dude. You've got to live with that disjointed logic, not me. You are horrifically demented, but it is always fun to watch you double down on stupid, CBJ7.

So it's not an abortion until the baby dies. Regardless of whether it is outside the womb or not.

Okay, dude. You've got to live with that disjointed logic, not me. You are horrifically demented, but it is always fun to watch you double down on stupid, CBJ7. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

what part of honor killings due to failed abortions escapes your midget mind?


read whirlies first post, then feel free to point the same childish name calling finger at him.

So it's not an abortion until the baby dies. Regardless of whether it is outside the womb or not.

Okay, dude. You've got to live with that disjointed logic, not me. You are horrifically demented, but it is always fun to watch you double down on stupid, CBJ7. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

COG, the only thing I can compare this to is perhaps a botched execution. Suppose they lay a guy on that gurney, stick the needle in and start the procedure, but just before he dies, the needle pops out. The doctor on hand determines that not enough drugs were induced.

They don't then try to save him, if they cannot proceed at that moment, they re-tool and continue later. Regardless, he is still under a death sentence, and they are going to finish the job.

Once a woman and her doctor decide on a abortion, the baby, or fetus, is under a death sentence. The decision has been made, a legal one at that. They continue until the outcome is that which was decided by the Doctor and the Woman.

The problem arises not in the facts of the procedure, but in the determination of when, and perhaps where, the "baby" obtains rights as a living being.

Now, any logical person would say that there is absolutely no difference if you are the baby. You are just as much alive, and just as viable, the seconds before your head actually pops out or one second after.

The problem is we, as a society, try to justify what we are doing by coming up with a set of asinine rules that make us feel that what we are doing is not really wrong.

If we were honest with ourselves, we would simply say, "this baby is doomed. The Doctor and Woman have decided. Nothing should get in the way of arriving at the final outcome, a terminated pregnancy".

Aren't we civilized.

COG, the only thing I can compare this to is perhaps a botched execution. Suppose they lay a guy on that gurney, stick the needle in and start the procedure, but just before he dies, the needle pops out. The doctor on hand determines that not enough drugs were induced.

They don't then try to save him, if they cannot proceed at that moment, they re-tool and continue later. Regardless, he is still under a death sentence, and they are going to finish the job.

Once a woman and her doctor decide on a abortion, the baby, or fetus, is under a death sentence. The decision has been made, a legal one at that. They continue until the outcome is that which was decided by the Doctor and the Woman.

The problem arises not in the facts of the procedure, but in the determination of when, and perhaps where, the "baby" obtains rights as a living being.

Now, any logical person would say that there is absolutely no difference if you are the baby. You are just as much alive, and just as viable, the seconds before your head actually pops out or one second after.

The problem is we, as a society, try to justify what we are doing by coming up with a set of asinine rules that make us feel that what we are doing is not really wrong.

If we were honest with ourselves, we would simply say, "this baby is doomed. The Doctor and Woman have decided. Nothing should get in the way of arriving at the final outcome, a terminated pregnancy".

Aren't we civilized. Originally Posted by Jackie S

about the only real differences in civilization from the time fire was discovered are nicer clothes and faster cars

COG, the only thing I can compare this to is perhaps a botched execution. Suppose they lay a guy on that gurney, stick the needle in and start the procedure, but just before he dies, the needle pops out. The doctor on hand determines that not enough drugs were induced.

They don't then try to save him, if they cannot proceed at that moment, they re-tool and continue later. Regardless, he is still under a death sentence, and they are going to finish the job.

Once a woman and her doctor decide on a abortion, the baby, or fetus, is under a death sentence. The decision has been made, a legal one at that. They continue until the outcome is that which was decided by the Doctor and the Woman.

The problem arises not in the facts of the procedure, but in the determination of when, and perhaps where, the "baby" obtains rights as a living being.

Now, any logical person would say that there is absolutely no difference if you are the baby. You are just as much alive, and just as viable, the seconds before your head actually pops out or one second after.

The problem is we, as a society, try to justify what we are doing by coming up with a set of asinine rules that make us feel that what we are doing is not really wrong.

If we were honest with ourselves, we would simply say, "this baby is doomed. The Doctor and Woman have decided. Nothing should get in the way of arriving at the final outcome, a terminated pregnancy".

Aren't we civilized. Originally Posted by Jackie S

like in Green Mile?

An abortion is a procedure to terminate a pregnancy. Once the baby has been born alive, the pregnancy has been terminated. The mother is no longer pregnant. Abortion successful.

Now a new set of rules take effect. It is no longer the mother's or doctor's choice whether the baby should be allowed to live. The baby is a human being with his/her own set of inherent rights. The baby CANNOT be killed unless s/he is threatening another with deadly force, or has been found guilty of a capital crime in a jurisdiction which can impose the death penalty.

Neither of those scenarios is likely in the case of a newborn. Absent those circumstances, killing the baby is MURDER, no matter how you want to rationalize it.

Yes, it IS that simple.

An abortion is a procedure to terminate a pregnancy. Once the baby has been born alive, the pregnancy has been terminated. The mother is no longer pregnant. Abortion successful.

Now a new set of rules take effect. It is no longer the mother's or doctor's choice whether the baby should be allowed to live. The baby is a human being with his/her own set of inherent rights. The baby CANNOT be killed unless s/he is threatening another with deadly force, or has been found guilty of a capital crime in a jurisdiction which can impose the death penalty.

Neither of those scenarios is likely in the case of a newborn. Absent those circumstances, killing the baby is MURDER, no matter how you want to rationalize it.

Yes, it IS that simple. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Only you say they CANNOT be killed unless blah, blah, blah. By your definition, families MURDER their loved ones on a daily basis by turning life support off when they can no longer decide for themselves. I see no difference.

Wow, nwa. You can't see the difference. You are truly a sick one. You need help, buddy.