Katie.Kartwright v. GFX: Unethical business practices, mere negligence or isolated incident?

I have a pimp too. I work 40hrs a week for him in exchange for money. And of course he gets the lion's share.

Hello, GFX where are you? The silence on their part leads me to believe they are guilty and now possibly advertising girls as independents.

Oh come on Hiker78. The only thing dumber than posting a bunch of spurious "accusations" on a ho board is responding to the "accusations" charges on a ho board.

sheesh

But Flinde there is nothing on T.V.

Just food for thought..... No where did GFX nor I mentioned Pimp Dre inviting me to church; yet the lady on post #16 (from magicalmariah) knew of this information. Yes Pimp Dre did invite me to church (way after I called his BS on stalking me, and the invite seemed he was trying to "save face") yet she knew this when neither party mention in any posts we did..... I'm just saying....

Beagle, post #50, if true, definitely sheds a new light.
I'm not going to investigate it. I know you will though.

Beagle, post #50, if true, definitely sheds a new light.
I'm not going to investigate it. I know you will though. Originally Posted by Precious_b

Thanks for keeping an open mind towards this investigation. Truth be told, like some of the other posters, I believed GFX's account more than I did Katie's at first. (Sorry, Katie ) Katie might not be as good in articulating herself as GFX is, but that should not be the measure of her credibility.

I've found some interesting connections from the info KKA posted, but I don't want to present any of it yet because I'm still investigating something else that might get influenced by my update.

Looks like some posters still do not understand the implications of Katie's allegations. This investigation isn't about proving that GFX is run by a pimp. It's about GFX being operated by the same person who treated Katie unethically; the most serious offense being his stalking of Katie, as a subtle form of threat.

Meanwhile, has any hobbyists here ever spoken to Mrs M through the phone, and if you did, how old would you guess she is?

Just food for thought..... No where did GFX nor I mentioned Pimp Dre inviting me to church; yet the lady on post #16 (from magicalmariah) knew of this information. Yes Pimp Dre did invite me to church (way after I called his BS on stalking me, and the invite seemed he was trying to "save face") yet she knew this when neither party mention in any posts we did..... I'm just saying.... Originally Posted by katie.kartwright

Katie, I don't find this odd at all. Considering Mariah is currently one of GFX's model, it's possible that "Mrs M" communicated the info to her in private.

4. He Dre told me hi name. While PMing JJ I didn't reveal anything when he asked if it was him I simply said yes it was..... The name came from the Pimp who introduced himself. Originally Posted by katie.kartwright

GFX's statement:

We asked for the name dre be removed because nobody by that name has ever driven for us, and JJ has confirmed you got that name from him. He was simply giving you a name that has been reported to him in the past. He told us the name has a bad reputation. Which is the reason you decided to use it to give yourself more credibility. Originally Posted by gfx

I checked with JJ. All JJ did was ask Katie if the driver used the name Dre. She said yes.

That in itself doesn't prove anything, because the manner in which JJ asked the question was suggestive, possibly influencing Katie's reply. However, I'll put together the other connections I've found at a later time.....they appear to corroborate Katie's account.

Although in apology thread it was stated by that MOD that name was to be edited due to the fact that it was not mistaken identity that "Mrs M" tried leading us to believe..... So why state that but tell MOD its his true identity? Either way it was for it proved lie from GFX....

That and it's saved in my phone as Dre.... So.....

I'm done with this so please wrap it up quickly because it's affecting me; never did I agree to sign up for a trail. My silence will be starting now.


Be safe everyone
Lady K

Sorry to hear, Katie. I understand situations like these rarely puts a positive light on those involved.

Staff edit JJ. Removed as requested by the poster.

1)
A. The fact that Pimp ha all access to GFX an even posted for me when I was in the room shows me that he was in fact behind GFX; still to this day no voice from "Mrs M" had been heard to my ears again, and no appropriate apology.
B. Is answered in A, even when I met them months ago he had the stuff up on his computer posting as GFX...
C. No idea beer gave a reason for that, still a mystery to me.
D. We were there in the room he came is and right away, "our portion is XXX amount" I started counting it then realized and said "how is that so when it's 100 over (mind you we did trade for the room that lasted 5 mins so I didn't owe for "half" of the room - wouldn't even come out to be 100 for half) I told ALL this to PIMP and he looked at me like I was crazy, after uncomfortable discussion an better math (on his part) I then agreed to the right amount of the cut. I have no info on this could have been a miscalculation, perhaps he forgot about the bj if in fact a bj did occur. It could also be hour vs half split error. I wasn't there. IDK.
E. People have PMed me claimed that they are still being bothered by him, if this is true who knows...

2.
A. Yes, I was in a hotel the first time - was okay I guess.... Then asked to share rooms with other girls (one at a motel 6), but not to be in there because it's their room - yet night before I was told if have to pay half (Ohh and half of a Motel 6 is supposedly 100+ a night....ijs)
B. Yes it was I asked that pictures be blurred, and my video be password protected 3 days later on my day off (pictures not blurred and video not password protected) even when Pimp said e did it right then an there on my first day of "work"
C. They claim to "squash things" yet I was already fone with them and then Pimp contacted Me out of the blue stating such statement "I didn't know you go to XXX fellowship, when is their next bible study" I then called him out on his BS and he then claims he was making small talk because he wants to talk about a scripture sent it to me - jut the verse; no conversation.... Then said "Don't worry your secret is safe with us "
D. Yup second day I just say terrible staring at a wall when the night before; I asked anyone and what time - I actually ha to get my car fixed; claims yes a 10 and 11:30 appointment no one showed. Then a few days later he claimed that people; even on this site were talking about how fat I am - laughable.
she worked 11-1pm 1 cancellation 1 reschedule no appts true

3)
A. I wouldn't know but when I first met Pimp he actually stated I might have to drive some girls around because some don't have cars - but he's the driver? And like I said 1A states that he had full access on that day.
B. Obviously because I had no knowledges of it until PMs were in my inbox and phone calls/texts were made. Yet "My inbox was full, and I didn't want to talk to her (Mrs M)" yet inbox is cleaned out daily and I was given a number by Pimp to "text only" I didn't want to waste breath talking to him on a second line; yet I've given open invitation for her to call me and apologize and still nothing to this day; I can understand if this hurt business for them, but truth hurts.... And like a Pimp her apology happened behind a computer and seems to fall on dead ears…


I might have missed a few items, but I will address them later.
I know some of you may think we should consider this an urgent matter requiring our immediate attention, but we feel these frivolous allegations and aren't our utmost priority. I have been attending to matters of more importance than this kangaroo cyber litigation/lynching. Once again Katie, I applaud your creative writing but this wasn't an exercise in which you fill out the answers with fictitious irrefutable statements. Mr. Beagle expected truthful answers, not answers that simply support your scandalous smear campaign. You might as well have fabricated a really good lie like, "Dre handed me a business card that said GFX OWNER on it, so I know he's the owner of GFX, that would have been a good one! LOL! The public apology was genuine I thought it was more honorable to do it in public, rather than bcd. I never thought it would be considered cowardly. The only person who has the GFX password to ECCIE and posts ads is MRS. M. The reason the driver met up Katie in Oct, was because on that particular date and time I was busy with kids, and I don't take my kids to these types of meetings. I did however try to meet up with Katie all of Novemeber and Early December. The reason the driver met up with Katie even though she had a car was to obtain the incall, take photos, and collect; I was out of town. He is no longer with the company.

these represent Katies emotional progression.
Day 1 - 3 appts
Day 2 - 0 appts
Day 3 - 0 appts
Day 4 - weigh-in/she bailed had to cancel 2 appts

"Something stinks in Denmark!" William Shakespeare

Objection your honor! Hearsay
Motion to suppress!
Motion to Strike!
Motion to Dismiss!

(1) lack of subject-matter jurisdiction;
(2) lack of personal jurisdiction;
(3) improper venue;
(4) insufficient process;
(5) insufficient service of process;


It seems the burden of proof is on GFX! We are presumed guilty and must prove our innocence instead of the other way around lol! I have taken the liberty to highlight in red the blatant out-right lies. While there is no real proof and it is her word against ours/driver. Mr. Beagle I can't answer some of your items listed above, because I wasn't there. And I have no communication with the Driver anymore. However, I can prove motive!
What is Katie's motive for lying? Ladies and Gentlemen of the community, GFX will provide sufficient evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Most of Katie's claims happened on her first day of employment with GFX, and yet she continued working. This fact constitutes that these are not the reasons for her animosity.

I will take a psycho-analytical/emotional approach.
1. We informed katie it was arduous to book her appointments, she felt we were not trying hard enough, yet we contacted all of previous clients that had written reviews for her in the past, and they didn't want to re-book her. We sent out an e-mail blast to over 150 regular clients, many of you can confirm the receipt of our marketing. We did Eccie, P411, We even tried back page!

2. We informed Katie that our clients were picking more petite models. This made Katie feel inadequate.

3. We informed Katie clients thought she weighed more than advertised. This made Katie furious

4. Katie informed us CK stated it was because she was with an agency. At first we begged to differ, because our regulars use our agency and still didn't want to book her specifically, but wanted to know when other models were returning. Katie was in denial

5. We previously stated that is was a mutual decision for us to go our separate ways when in fact, We leaped at the opportunity to relieve Katie from her GFX obligation. In short, we quickly agreed Katie should go back to being independent, lower her rates, and run specials to attract clients. Katie felt Rejected. We felt an insurmountable amount of pressure from Katie. She kept repeating, "Still no appointments?" "Another day without any calls?" "I know clients want to see me, you're lying." Trust me, I would have loved to have a line wrapped around the building like the grand-opening of Krispy Kreme donuts, j/k

6. We thought the fact that Katie could squirt would be our USP (unique selling proposition), but it didn't matter. Clients were more concerned about the appearance of the squirter, than the squirting itself. This made Katie feel
self-conscious.

7. The deal-breaker was the moment of truth the infamous "weigh-in", yes our driver was 30-40 mins late, but I'm not sure if she ever showed up, or simply ran for the hills. Her true weight then may never be known now. Katie felt insulted and thought we were calling her fat, but it was the clients who were actually calling her fat not us. We were trying to disprove them, and wanted to provide proof for her. IMHO this was the straw that broke the camel's back. No pun intended.

8. Rather than wait for her to post, we decided the bad news should come from us. This made Katie vindictive, we had stolen her opportunity, and essentially told on ourselves, so what more could she say, this is when Katie started being creative, and embellishing the truth.
What we are witnessing here today is a disappointed employee/woman scorned for which hell hath no fury. Her experience with us is comparable or correlates with a patient or a patients family denied health care coverage for a particular operation. They blame the hospital, when in fact its the insurance company who refuses to pay. In this case Katie is the patient, the agency is the hospital, and the the client is the insurance company who is refusing to pay.


Katie I empathize with you, We were not telling you that your most prized possession/asset (your body) has little to no value. We didn't intend for you to feel rejected. We understand you were envious or jealous of the other models, that's why we separated you and didn't want you to be there watching our other models prosper. We felt this would be like pouring salt in your wounds. We understand now you are vengeful, because we cut you from the team.
If you did make the driver pop in 5 mins, good for you! Many women
feel their sexual prowess equates to self-esteem. If you are lying about that too well then….


My advice to you, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful on condescending at all. Perhaps you should join a gym, partner up with Sonya or Slave, they work out religiously. I believe you can get back in shape like you were in the photos on your WIX website. There are some natural supplements you can take like green coffee bean extract, it was showcased on Dr. OZ. It is notorious for having no side-effects and no jitters. I myself, recently lost 20lbs. In the meantime, you should removed the wix website from your signature or add a disclaimer stating how long/ how many pounds ago those pics were taken.


Now The "Dre" issue, I have done my own research on this individual and acquired information from Savak and other members. This poser/pimp would pose as the provider managing Independent accounts. He never had a real agency or real website. His M.O. (modus operandi) is false-representation! He would trick providers into working for him, while advertising them as independent. I guess his reasoning is because he knows the majority of clients are anti-agency. I believe you are giving him too much credit. There is no way he has the means, resources, or wherewithal to run a multi-state agency like GFX lol!


In conclusion, GFX is a machine powered by the high-octane fuel of hot models providing hot service, and well-oiled with what Whispers calls excellent marketing. Katie I regret to inform you, your attempt to destroy the machine is futile. We have found our niche market. 80% of our business is repeat clients who have us on speed-dial. The opinions of trolls are irrelevant to us. Our phone hasn't stopped ringing, reviews are still pouring in and our clients are remaining loyal. Eccie worldwide is a regional Texas based board. We advertise on dozens of boards/websites nationwide! You're spitting, no pissing, no squirting in the wind. You are right, I am refusing to call and apologize to someone who is a pathological liar with ulterior motives to obliterate our reputation.

PSX on the other hand is taking-off! This is our B2B division booking featured dancers in gentlemen's clubs nationwide, and providing fresh-face starlets to top production companies in Florida and California. I said that to say this, Our future is promising. Good Luck!

In light of GFX's response, and a few other findings, I have decided that GFX should be vindicated of further blames and responsibilities.

I'm posting this in advance of my final argument, to prevent any rumor mongers from taking any opportunity to cause further confusion.


I intend to start a new thread with the appropriate title to make my stance on the situation clear, and to get a poll of the public opinion to see if anyone's left dissatisfied with the investigation.

Wish you the best in the growth of your agency, Mrs M!!

Before GFX’s reply, these were the few things I considered that appeared to corroborate Katie’s account of Dre being the manager:

1) I looked up the information on Dre, and found that the 3 girls joined in May 2011 and first posted in SA
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=225204&highlight=
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...t=#post1286746
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...t=#post1297353

I compared them to gfekrystina and magicalmariah’s profiles (both of whom recently appeared on the forum to testify on GFX’s behalf). They joined in April and May 2011, respectively and first posted in Austin and SA.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...t=#post1190472
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...t=#post1190472

Aside from the similar join dates, all their posts shared 2 common patterns – the name was always listed right below the phone number, and they all had stated that they prefer text messages.

2) The credibility of gfekrystina and magicalmariah were highly questionable. Their last posts before Jan 2014 were back in June and Dec 2012. There had been more than a year of hiatus before they make their reappearance for the sole purpose of speaking up on GFX’s behalf.

As 2 members have pointed out, it was odd that magicalmariah was only a “registered member”. I looked into it, and found she had changed her handle, and it’s the reason why she lost her “verified provider” status.

3) The above reasons were compelling, but for final confirmation that Dre was managing all or most of the booking, I needed feedback from everyone else.
a. I had to show that no one has ever spoken to a female voice (Mrs M) when they called at random times to book. This was the reason I asked for volunteers.
b. I’d made some calls to GFX on the same day myself but was connected to the voice mail every time. Magicalmariah had another number listed on her website, and I was also connected to her voicemail every time I called.

4) Holly going independent around the time this fiasco arose was highly suspicious. I contacted her, but she requested to be excluded from the discussion. I deduced that if Dre was behind the scenes, it’s plausible to assume that he’s threatened to do something to her if she spills. But even if Dre wasn’t behind this, it’s possible that Holly was just afraid of being put in the spotlight and interrogated.