Interesting that your link doesn't reference your 30+ point list. IYO, Who is responsible for 9/11?
Originally Posted by gnadfly
He believes that back in 1993 Bush orchestrated the first attempt to knock down the WTC towers. Then facilitated the destruction of two embassies and an attack on the USS Cole. And in between he believes Bush persuaded the Justice Department under the Clinton Administration to obtain an indictment against OBL so that it would provide Bush "cover" for his sneaky little relationship with OBL .... which no doubt is why he believes Bush "allowed" OBL to escape from a cave in Afghanistan to a compound in Pakistan.
To confirm his conspiracy, he must believe that Congress and the rest of the civilized world were all giving Bush cover by denouncing the atrocity of knocking down the buildings, attacking the Pentagon (more Bush "cover"), and plotting to knock down the capital building with the airplane that crashed in Pennsylvania ... so he thinks Bush is guilty of killing all those people on the airplane in Pennsylvania, too, and attacking the military over which Bush is the CIC.
BTW: That is the Bush everyone calls a dumbass, right? He not only tricked the whole world about WMD's in Iraq, he tricked the whole fucking world into believing OBL committed all of those other acts of terrorism ... right, NotSoWellEndowed?
NoSoWellEndowed ... do you believe the Earth is flat, also?
So OBL admitted it, eh? Got anything else? He was an attention whore grandstander. Of course he would admit to it. It brought him a lot of attention and new followers. Do you have any other evidence?
And no, I DO NOT believe that GWB, or anyone else in the US government was behind this, or knew about it before it happened. However, I DO believe the government is not telling us all they learned about the attack after it happened. Since the attack was used as a basis for two wars, thousands of deaths, and billions of dollars in additional taxpayer debt, I think we have the right to know the real story.
UBL admitted he was behind 9-11, WE. Your "Truther" nonsense remains nonsense, WE. None of your lies are sourced, WE. If UBL was working for the U.S.A., WE, why did your boy, Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator, launch cruise missiles to assassinate UBL, WE?
I B Hankering have you been hiding under a rock the last 7 years or are you just that stupid. That video has been proven to be a fake by various sources. That is not even OBL in that video- did OBL gain weight and get a tan before he made that video. You have really made yourself look like an ass by thinking that video was real- here's evidence that the video is a fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMsCIG279hY
Here's is pretty much what the video says:
Two former CIA officials have admitted to creating a fake video in which intelligence officers dressed up as Osama Bin Laden and his cronies in an effort to defame the terrorist leader throughout the middle east.
The details are outlined in a Washington Post article by investigative reporter and former Army Intelligence case officer Jeff Stein.
Stein’s sources told him that during planning for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the CIA’s Iraq Operations Group considered creating a fake video of Saddam Hussein engaged in sexual acts with a teenage boy, then flooding Iraq with copies of the tape.
That idea, along with faking Iraqi news bulletins, never came to fruition according to the former CIA officials, because agreement on the projects could not be reached between the Iraq Group and CIA’s Office of Technical Services.
However, the two sources reveal that the agency did previously concoct at least one fake Bin Laden video:
The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.
The former officials told Stein that the project was taken over by the military after it ground to a halt:
The reality, the former officials said, was that the agency really didn’t have enough money and expertise to carry out the projects.
“The military took them over,” said one. “They had assets in psy-war down at Ft. Bragg,” at the army’s special warfare center.
This latest revelation bolsters evidence that the intelligence agencies, and perhaps more significantly, the military have been engaged in creating fake Bin Laden videos in the past.
As we have exhaustively documented, Intelcenter, the U.S. monitoring group that routinely releases Bin Laden video and audio, much of which have been proven to be either rehashed old footage or outright fakes, is an offshoot of IDEFENSE, a web security company that monitors intelligence from the middle east.
IDEFENSE is heavily populated by long serving ex military intelligence officials, such as senior military psy-op intelligence officer Jim Melnick, who served 16 years in the US army and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in psychological operations. Melnick has also worked directly for former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Intelcenter notoriously released the “laughing hijackers” tape and claimed it was an Al-Qaeda video, despite the fact that the footage was obtained by a “security agency” at a 2000 Bin Laden speech.
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IntelCenter was also caught adding its logo to a tape at the same time as Al-Qaeda’s so-called media arm As-Sahab added its logo, proving the two organizations were one and the same.
Could the CIA group of “dark skinned actors” have been behind the infamous December 2001 “Fat nosed” Bin Laden video, that was magically found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in?
The tape featured a fat Osama laughing and joking about how he’d carried out 9/11. The video was also mistranslated in order to manipulate viewer opinion and featured “Bin Laden” praising two of the hijackers, only he got their names wrong. This Osama also used the wrong hand to write with and wore gold rings, a practice totally in opposition to the Muslim faith.
Despite the fact that the man in the video looks nothing like Bin Laden, the CIA stood by it and declared it to be the official “9/11 confession video”.
The latest revelations also shed light on another past Bin Laden release – a tape in which he ludicrously declared himself in league with Saddam Hussein in the weeks before the invasion of Iraq.
The notion that the CIA project was taken over and drastically improved by the Pentagon at some point after 2003 jives with the improvement in quality of Bin Laden videos in later years. Most notably the video that was released immediately ahead of the 2004 election, and it’s digitally manipulated duplicate from 2007, in which Bin Laden appeared to have a dyed beard.
For a run down of some of the most notoriously dubious Bin Laden videos see the following article.
I B Hankering have you been hiding under a rock the last 7 years or are you just that stupid. That video has been proven to be a fake by various sources. That is not even OBL in that video- did OBL gain weight and get a tan before he made that video. You have really made yourself look like an ass by thinking that video was real- here's evidence that the video is a fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMsCIG279hY
Originally Posted by wellendowed1911
The Washington Post presents the video as real, WE, and you didn't rebut the other video from ABC, WE.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Did you look at the date when the Washington Post reported as "real"? I can't believe in 2015 you actually think the video was real when it's been debunked so many times. And to be honest with you- when I first saw the video- I immediately said the person doesn't look like Obama- he's much darker, fatter, and the nose is much larger- If I am not mistaken both Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles saw that the video was fake. One of the Osama videos was a computer generated cartoon for crying out loud.
Did you look at the date when the Washington Post reported as "real"? I can't believe in 2015 you actually think the video was real when it's been debunked so many times. And to be honest with you- when I first saw the video- I immediately said the person doesn't look like Obama- he's much darker, fatter, and the nose is much larger- If I am not mistaken both Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles saw that the video was fake. One of the Osama videos was a computer generated cartoon for crying out loud.
You didn't provide a single legitimate or verifiable site that claimed that that particular video was manufactured, WE, and Prison Planet is as bogus as you are, WE.
You didn't provide a single legitimate or verifiable site that claimed that that particular video was manufactured, WE, and Prison Planet is as bogus as you are, WE.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
If these aren't enough for you then you are beyond help- let me know if you need more- have about another 100 more sites I can post, I know you must feel like a dipshit because 14 years after the video you are probably the lone idiot who believes the video is real.
If these aren't enough for you then you are beyond help- let me know if you need more- have about another 100 more sites I can post, I know you must feel like a dipshit because 14 years after the video you are probably the lone idiot who believes the video is real.
If someone repeats something posted on the internet enough or it gets "enough" hits, those who wish to believe it, then cite the repetitive posts and multiple hits as "truth"!
Take "Obamacare" for instance.
For LessWellEndowed to be "correct" .... as I said:
Two Democratic and a Republican administration (who didn't "care" for one another), Congress, and all the governments of the "civilized" world would have to be in on the conspiracy, plus all the Muslims who were dancing in the streets celebrating.
Sounds like LessWellEndowed is marking Obaminable as a murderer to cover up.
BTW:
Commission Members:
Thomas H. Kean, Chair
Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chair
Richard Ben-Veniste
Fred F. Fielding
Jamie S. Gorelick
Slade Gorton
Bob Kerrey
John F. Lehman
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson
And no, I DO NOT believe that GWB, or anyone else in the US government was behind this, or knew about it before it happened. .
Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
A problem with any organization revealing all facts, good and bad, regarding any particular incident is once all facts are revealed the blame-game begins and folks cherry-pick the facts with 20-20 hindsight and then you get bullshit like claiming Bush announced on the deck of the Lincoln "Mission Accomplished"... and interpreting the words to mean he was declaring the war in Iraq over.
On the other hand to compare 911 with the Gulf of Tonkin allegation is ridiculous. That is the type of bullshit that comes from "cherry picking"!
Another problem of "full disclosure" is the hysteria that flows from those selective reports that emphasize only the worst REPORTED allegations .. and then there a call for all allegations, and not just the known facts. Then the REPORTED allegatiions are morphed into facts. The yelling of "fire" in the theater and it turns out someone flicked a lighter.
Just look at the news reporting going on. It is atrocious. And then ...
... look at some of the shit-speculations on this thread.
Again WE1911, who is responsible for 9/11? Or am I to assume Lexus' response is your?
Originally Posted by gnadfly
It's apparent from his post in #51 he holds Bush responsible for 911 ... by not diligently pursuing OBL ... while ignoring, of course, that Bush wasn't POTUS until late January 2001 AND the information gathered to "nail down" OBL's actual "hide out" was generated during Bush's administration, including cultivating the snitch who Obaminable left hanging out to dry in Pakistant.
Short: "Bush did it!!!"....... So he could invade Afghanistan?
The NBC link is discussing whether hair dye was used in a 2007 video, WE.
The BBC link says the video isn't fake, WE.
And the rest of your sites are bogus "Truther" conspiracy sites, WE.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Stevie Wonder just pm'ed me and said your vision is worse than his if you can't tell that the OBL in that video is fake. Did you even look at the photo comparisons? The video you posted has a much darker, fatter OBL with a wider nose- it's a FAKE you moron!!!
